SWAC 2013 Football Predictions


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Get Ready said:
I don't understand why folks are discouraging preseason prognosticating. Thats the beauty of football. Why can't we guess what our teams are going to do on what we know now? People are going to say stupid stuff but that ain't nothing new.

Barlow made a biiiiig mistake hiring Ramsey. Bamastate would've been in a better position had you kept your last DC. You hired a guy JSU scored 103 points on in the last 2 years ...not a good move
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You are right GR about the points his 2011/12 defense gave up. I remember the defense he put on the field in 2010. We're hoping he's that coach. It's ironic our former DC is now on the staff in Houston.
 
thegooddoctor said:
EAST

Alabama State - loaded on both sides of the ball:D
JSU - close second:tophat:
AA&M - coach Jones will be on the hot seat this season:kaioken:
Alcorn/MVSU tie:devil2:

WEST

APB - #1 until someone beats them:spin:
SU - Odoms is working hard to turn the Jags around:bowdown:
PVU/TSU toss up:sleeping:
GSU - Doug has problems:pimp::argue2:
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didnt take long for this one to go off track. :lol:
 

J C said:
And there are some Hornets recruits that want meet academic requirements. However, most of our Feb signees are in summer school going through workouts. They are an impressive group. Most will redshirt.

Barlow has the talent. What he does with it remains to be seen
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This is the thing about Bama State, they have Barlow. Barlow-coached teams are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. That's a good thing.
I'd like to see what kind of defense they have. Last year's defense wasn't much to write home about.
I really hope he plays Cromwell like he did last year, which was sparingly.

Now since Bama State's explosive QB is now gone, that's going to be a major spot to fill. If he's nowhere near comparable to last year's QB, Bama State will have problems consistently scoring.
 
J C said:
You are right GR about the points his 2011/12 defense gave up. I remember the defense he put on the field in 2010. We're hoping he's that coach. It's ironic our former DC is now on the staff in Houston.
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But JC

He had a bunch of illegal players on that team. Anybody can coach a bunch of players that have no business on a college football team. He lasted 12 games with legal players. You guys made a SWAC move. The team y'all have to beat to get to the scg is JSU. You had the DC that was giving us hell. Firing him was a bad mistake. I feel like you took two steps back. '
 
JayRob said:
Instead of sticking to the subject at hand, sounds like two folks are trying to convince themselves that they're not wrong.
Perhaps it's because they're not interested in the standings knowing full well their school will not finish first in their division no matter how much they talk about standings.
PB will dominate the West with ease, unless PV gets in the way.
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You are right, we should stick to the top, but you and a few of your compadres say some outlandish stuff, which one can see from your post below. Now I know why booger wanted to go on a slapping spree at one of jsu's press lunching. Instead of criticizing everything JROCK and I point out to you, you should be thanking us for sitting you straight so you won't look like a fool amongst non-SWAC individuals. Now back to the topic, because I had to get that off my chest.

JAG89 said:
JayRob said:
Thanks for that bit of info JR. I was looking at the stats published by USA Today and based on those stats, it showed Grambling as being more responsible financially.
Seems to me that they were doing more with less and they didn't have to cut athletic programs in the process and broke out even. I could be wrong though.
They also didn't put more of a burden on students in balancing their athletic budget like certain schools. Some schools supported athletics primarily off the backs of the student body. Grambling didn't do that.

As far as Jindal's concerned, he has su cutting programs left and right, so it's obvious he'd agree with that, so that's nothing to write home about. Again, thanks for your input.
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From looking at the numbers below, can anyone tell me which SWAC school burden their students the most to support their athletic programs from 2005 to 2012?

Hint: The amount of burden they placed on their students to support their athletic programs from 2005 to 2012 was slightly over $20 million.

Also, USA Today didn't report Alcorn's finances for 2005.

TxSU
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $4,133,272
2011 $4,453,365
2010 $3,102,760
2009 $1,517,818
2008 $1,425,626
2007 $1,753,990
2006 $1,581,660
2005 $1,887,013
TOTAL $19,855,504

PVU
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $2,041,089
2011 $2,099,431
2010 $2,131,412
2009 $2,461,024
2008 $2,523,272
2007 $2,436,465
2006 $2,041,533
2005 $2,172,130
TOTAL $17,906,356

Southern
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $2,422,168
2011 $2,160,915
2010 $2,158,008
2009 $2,169,203
2008 $2,312,281
2007 $2,226,181
2006 $2,239,124
2005 $2,109,474
TOTAL $17,797,354

Ark PB
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $1,175,220
2011 $1,239,244
2010 $1,430,746
2009 $1,350,346
2008 $1,208,995
2007 $1,163,466
2006 $1,206,533
2005 $1,164,315
TOTAL $9,938,865

AlaState
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $0
2011 $0
2010 $0
2009 $0
2008 $0
2007 $0
2006 $0
2005 $0
TOTAL $0

jsu
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $2,585,100
2011 $3,804,250
2010 $2,619,575
2009 $1,964,510
2008 $2,529,100
2007 $2,028,071
2006 $2,328,550
2005 $2,166,545
TOTAL $20,025,701

AAMU
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $306,680
2011 $632,197
2010 $552,753
2009 $534,600
2008 $215,321
2007 $144,210
2006 $712,540
2005 $735,888
TOTAL $3,834,189

MVSU
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $831,026
2011 $889,819
2010 $953,651
2009 $995,906
2008 $955,988
2007 $989,205
2006 $926,100
2005 $1,004,640
TOTAL $7,546,335

Grambling
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $0
2011 $0
2010 $0
2009 $0
2008 $0
2007 $0
2006 $0
2005 $0
TOTAL $0

Alcorn
YEAR STUDENT FEES
2012 $1,666,887
2011 $1,666,887
2010 $1,387,356
2009 $1,327,010
2008 $1,309,642
2007 $1,228,110
2006 $1,071,595
TOTAL $9,657,487
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JROCK said:
These aren't projected budgets they are final numbers. And, all of our schools received state aid to meet expenses. TP, you can't tell me too much about budgets. I've developed and managed department budgets over the years.
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I didn't say they were projected. I just said they were how much the CHOSE or, more than likely, HAD to spend.
 
lilrj1919 said:
How JSU people talk, you would think they dominate in all sports, etc. They would fool someone who didn't know any better.
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We don't dominate every sport but 9 times outta 10, you have to go thru JSU to win a championship. That's just the way it is.
 
JAG89 said:
From looking at the numbers below, can anyone tell me which SWAC school burden their students the most to support their athletic programs from 2005 to 2012?

Hint: The amount of burden they placed on their students to support their athletic programs from 2005 to 2012 was slightly over $20 million.
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We have more students than most SWAC schools so if every student is paying, why wouldn't we collect more money from them. You act like we charge more per student or something.

Ya'll have some of the dumbest arguments. What was the purpose of even posting that? :smh:
 
JROCK said:
True, and there are too many X factors if you don't have enough data to make a general statement about someone's budget being lower due to travel expenses. For example, Bama State's budget was 6.2 million more than A&M. It's apparent to anyone that knows what they're looking at that there is much more going on there than traveling expenses. Unless you have an itemization of these expenses, you simply don't know the whole reason for the disparity. I would look at that budget and one question that comes to mind is would some of the new stadium expenses be included in Bama State's budget. And that is just a surface observation without doing any in-depth analysis. These programs are not monolithic and have different needs from year to year.
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Exactly. THESE budgets mean nothing so why do ya'll post them like they are some sort of gospel? :smh:
 
JayRob said:
Now since Bama State's explosive QB is now gone, that's going to be a major spot to fill. If he's nowhere near comparable to last year's QB, Bama State will have problems consistently scoring.
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There is no one in Montgomery that isn't happy Jenkins is gone. He was the better athlete but the better qb is still on campus. That fact was a major frustration for hornet fans, along with the use of crowell. Both of those things looked to be corrected this season. But there is no question that Duhart is a much better passer, and they don't need their qb to run right now.
 
Tigerpride said:
We have more students than most SWAC schools so if every student is paying, why wouldn't we collect more money from them. You act like we charge more per student or something.

Ya'll have some of the dumbest arguments. What was the purpose of even posting that? :smh:
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More than TxSU and PVU?

East Division
Alabama Agricultural and Mechanical University 6,000
Alabama State University 6,000
Alcorn State University 3,200
Jackson State University 8,300
Mississippi Valley State University 2,500

West Division
University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff 3,200
Grambling State University 6,900
Prairie View A&M University 8,300
Southern University and A&M College 7,300
Texas Southern University 11,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_Athletic_Conference
 

Jax said:
Dylan send help fast! :lol:
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JAG89 said:
More than TxSU and PVU?

East Division
Alabama Agricultural and Mechanical University 6,000
Alabama State University 6,000
Alcorn State University 3,200
Jackson State University 8,300
Mississippi Valley State University 2,500

West Division
University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff 3,200
Grambling State University 6,900
Prairie View A&M University 8,300
Southern University and A&M College 7,300
Texas Southern University 11,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_Athletic_Conference
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Did you not see the word "MOST"? sheesh

Also, I am not sure what PVs numbers are. JSU was at 8900 the last two years. Those numbers you posted could be off for everyone but regardless, I still said MOST. sheesh
 
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mighty hornet said:
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Actually, your DC was pretty good but actually our old OC made him look better than he was. No way ya'll should have beat us in 2010 or 2011. BUT that does not change the fact that Ramsey won't help ya'll. Like GR said, we drop bombs on Ramsey!
 
Tigerpride said:
Actually, your DC was pretty good but actually our old OC made him look better than he was. No way ya'll should have beat us in 2010 or 2011. BUT that does not change the fact that Ramsey won't help ya'll. Like GR said, we drop bombs on Ramsey!
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There is no way in 2010 or 2011 that we were suppose to be throwing the ball against the league worst run defense and not to mention the 2 All Americans DBs Bama State had they were picking off Casey left and right smh...Our OC was dumb....he had a good system but was more of a one trick pony.
 
Tigerpride said:
Did you now see the word "MOST"? sheesh

Also, I am not sure what PVs numbers are. JSU was at 8900 the last two years. Those numbers you posted could be off for everyone but regardless, I still said MOST. sheesh
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Let's just say, this was for your boy jayrob and his dumb comment, but I guess you are coming to his defense. But as you can see, no one from jsu should be able say anything about putting more of a burdening on students to balance their athletic budget, especially when jsu's student fees for its athletic department are about the same or more than some SWAC schools.

JayRob said:
Thanks for that bit of info JR. I was looking at the stats published by USA Today and based on those stats, it showed Grambling as being more responsible financially.
Seems to me that they were doing more with less and they didn't have to cut athletic programs in the process and broke out even. I could be wrong though.
They also didn't put more of a burden on students in balancing their athletic budget like certain schools. Some schools supported athletics primarily off the backs of the student body. Grambling didn't do that.

As far as Jindal's concerned, he has su cutting programs left and right, so it's obvious he'd agree with that, so that's nothing to write home about. Again, thanks for your input.
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Come on dude...really? You are going to hold up a lie? A big lie? You didn't belong on the field with JSU in 2010. The refs kept you in that game and gave y'all the win yet you typed that big lie. I see you haven't changed at all
 
GR,
At NO point did you lead or were in control of either of those games.
Yall weren't nearly as good as yall think. But then again, yall never are.
 
Get Ready said:
Remember when SU used to start all the baseball threads and bamastate would start all the basketball threads? Those were the days. We won't have to see that mess for a while.

Wait....remember when MikeBigg would post all those articles about those losers at Grambling? Wheeeeew...I'm so glad that's over
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You mean those teams that used to kick JSU's azz every year? I bet you are glad!
 
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