Y da Swac isn't elgible for Bowl Game?


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1SGT_Robinson said:
What the ...............................................................:vomit:
Cause the Black Schools deserve a chance to shine as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gee Whiz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tired of this back of the bus mentality!!!!!!
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Did you watch the same bayou classic I seen? Why would someone want to give us a chance to shine after watching that mess? That game was embarrasing for the SWAC. Thank god, my tigers aren't playing on Nat'l TV with our current status.
 
Mr. SWAC said:
You just post just to post don't you? Dude EVERY D1 conference gets a payout from the BCS. Last year EVERY D1AA conference got about $225,000 from the BCS. Damn dude. Proof that you just talk out your ass right here, an you want someone to listen to you about moving the SCG to Jackson, but you don't even know how much money is generated by any of these things.
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Dumbazz this has nothing to do with the SCG idiot.
So what if the SWAC might get mere crumbs from the NCAA, if that's the case?
What does this have to do with the SCG being moved to Jackson.

Quit comparing apples and oranges conehead.
Why don't y'all in bamans figure out how to get more fans in the stands then you wouldn't have to worry about big daddy ncaa giving you crumbs from the table.
What the ncaa gives to the SWAC is not even worth discussing. If the 180,000 dollar figure is correct, you divide that amongst the 10 schools, each gets a mere 18,000 dollars apiece.
That's barely enough to get two bands to one football game.
Man quit wasting my valuable time and talk about something that's worth talkin about.
 



JayRob said:
Dumbazz this has nothing to do with the SCG idiot.
So what if the SWAC might get mere crumbs from the NCAA, if that's the case?
What does this have to do with the SCG being moved to Jackson.

Quit comparing apples and oranges conehead.
Why don't y'all in bamans figure out how to get more fans in the stands then you wouldn't have to worry about big daddy ncaa giving you crumbs from the table.
What the ncaa gives to the SWAC is not even worth discussing. If the 180,000 dollar figure is correct, you divide that amongst the 10 schools, each gets a mere 18,000 dollars apiece.
That's barely enough to get two bands to one football game.
Man quit wasting my valuable time and talk about something that's worth talkin about.
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And also each 1AA school get some additional money from the NCAA.
 
JayRob said:
somethin's better than nothin. Is that what I'm hearin?
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Why dont we stop begging and looking for someone to help us, lets just help ourselves. we sittin here talking about money we really dont deserve. did you buy a thousand dollar ticket to get that money. Hell we wont buy a twenty dollar ticket. Bottom line is we have made our games about a dumb azz band and not football. Lets play some quility football beat some good teams and then talk. Until then stop looking for hand outs and and put some of your money in your school. At this point we (the Swac) are getting beat by everyone, face it we are not good! lets face the truth and facts, we dont quilify for a BCS, we are not going to face the DI playoff champion unless we are in the championship game, and we need to stop waiting for handouts.
 
stroke said:
Why dont we stop begging and looking for someone to help us, lets just help ourselves. we sittin here talking about money we really dont deserve. did you buy a thousand dollar ticket to get that money. Hell we wont buy a twenty dollar ticket. Bottom line is we have made our games about a dumb azz band and not football. Lets play some quility football beat some good teams and then talk. Until then stop looking for hand outs and and put some of your money in your school. At this point we (the Swac) are getting beat by everyone, face it we are not good! lets face the truth and facts, we dont quilify for a BCS, we are not going to face the DI playoff champion unless we are in the championship game, and we need to stop waiting for handouts.
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stroke, when most of the schools have piss poor teams, all they have left are the bands.

Just hold on though stroke, help is on the way... in the form of a revitalized JSU football program!

Many failed to realize that as soon as JSU's football program collapsed, the SWAC as a whole collapsed. That's just the truth.
JSU used to consistently beat Stephen F. Austin, Northwestern Louisiana and teams of that nature during the regular season. We'd come close in the playoffs but could never get over that hump.

When JSU revamps, the rest of the teams will follow and we'll start beating some out of conference schools.
As JSU goes, so goes the SWAC.

stroke, just hold on fo' a few moe months. Helps a comin'.:nod:
 
MightyDog said:
I have been pushing for a game between the 1AA Champs and the SWAC Conference Champions. This would be an outstanding game to determine the 1AA Champs. Since the SWAC is the best in 1AA, this would be a great game and people would pay to see it.
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I LOVE the SWAC, but it isn't by far the best conference in I-AA..:no:
 
Here are results from the last 10 seasons (1997-2006):

SWAC vs. I-AA non-conference competition
45-99 (.313)
Last win: Two in week one, 2006.

SWAC vs. PWC I-AA non-conference competition
10-50 (.167)
Last win: 2004 Alcorn St. 34, Southeastern La. 27

SWAC vs. I-AA playoff participants
4-38 (.095)
Last win: 2003 Southern U. 35, N.C. A&T 16

SWAC vs. PWC I-AA playoff participants
1-21 (.045)
Last win: 1997 Southern U. 27, Northwestern St. 9



Here it is team-by-team:

JACKSON ST.
I-AA non-conf: 7-19
Last win: 2002 Tennessee St. 31-28
PWC I-AA: 0-3
Playoff teams: 0-9
PWC playoff teams: 0-2

ALCORN ST.
I-AA non-conf: 5-10
Last win: 2004 N.C. A&T 16-13
PWC I-AA: 3-9
Last win: 2004 Southeastern La. 33-27
Playoff teams: 0-3
PWC playoff teams: 0-3

ALABAMA A&M
I-AA non-conf: 7-9
Last win: 2006 Tennessee St. 27-20
PWC I-AA: 1-4
Last win: 1999 Jacksonville St. 37-20
Playoff teams: 0-4
PWC playoff teams: 0-2

ALABAMA ST.
I-AA non-conf: 5-8
Last win: 2004 Howard 27-12
PWC I-AA: 1-4
Last win: 2002 Chattanooga 41-23
Playoff teams: 0-5
PWC playoff teams: 0-4

MISSISSIPPI VAL.
I-AA non-conf: 0-9
PWC non-conf: 0-8
Playoff teams: 0-1
PWC playoff teams: 0-1

GRAMBLING
I-AA non-conf: 8-7
Last win: 2004 Bethune-Cookman 24-23
PWC non-conf: 2-2
Last win: 2001 Portland St. 30-29
Playoff teams: 1-5
Last win: 2000 Florida A&M 12-10
PWC playoff teams: 0-2

SOUTHERN U.
I-AA non-conf: 9-11
Last win: 2006 Bethune-Cookman 30-29
PWC non-conf: 3-6
Last win: 1999 Northwestern St. 20-13
Playoff teams: 3-7
Last win: 2003 N.C. A&T 35-16
PWC playoff teams: 1-4
Last win: 1997 Northwestern St. 27-9

TEXAS SOUTHERN
I-AA non-conf: 4-14
Last win: 2003 Howard 27-20
PWC non-conf: 0-8
Playoff teams: 0-2
PWC playoff teams: 0-1

ARK.-PINE BLUFF
I-AA non-conf: 0-6
PWC non-conf: 0-1
Playoff teams: 0-0
PWC playoff teams: 0-0

PRAIRIE VIEW
I-AA non-conf: 0-6
PWC non-conf: 0-5
Playoff teams: 0-2
PWC playoff teams: 0-2
 
JayRob said:
somethin's better than nothin. Is that what I'm hearin?
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No, what you're hearing is how you called someone out as WRONG, when you didn't know WTF you were talking about in the first place. Irrespective of the puniness of the amount, the fact still remains that the schools DO receive the ends ... and you were so busy trying to call someone stupid, that you ended up looking the bigger ass in the end.

That foot in mouth isht can be a bigger itchbay than I am, some days ...
 
Vinita said:
No, what you're hearing is how you called someone out as WRONG, when you didn't know WTF you were talking about in the first place. Irrespective of the puniness of the amount, the fact still remains that the schools DO receive the ends ... and you were so busy trying to call someone stupid, that you ended up looking the bigger ass in the end.

That foot in mouth isht can be a bigger itchbay than I am, some days ...
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Man, you bout as happy to find a flaw in one of my posts as much as you were when PB had a decent crowd show up for a change for cryin out loud.

If you need an apology, here it is. Apology offered.

The bigger fish are what I choose to focus my attention on, such as the SCG and where it should be marketed and played, and the hundreds of thousands of dollars it should be raking in.

The SCG should be drawing far more than it did this year, especially since the weather was almost perfect.
Whoever's marketing the SCG needs to be fired. Someone who's creative, innovative and not afraid to take risks should be hired.

The SCG has so much potential, it's not even funny, but until the marketing director is willing to take risks, it will continue to draw 20-30,000 when it should be doing at least 40,000.
 
JayRob said:
The SCG should be drawing far more than it did this year, especially since the weather was almost perfect.
Whoever's marketing the SCG needs to be fired. Someone who's creative, innovative and not afraid to take risks should be hired.

The SCG has so much potential, it's not even funny, but until the marketing director is willing to take risks, it will continue to draw 20-30,000 when it should be doing at least 40,000.
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I agree that the conference championship game should draw more, but it goes to show that SWAC fans are fair weather fans. If their team is not in that game then it they don't care. I think the SWAC has been stuck in the rut of marketing everything except the game. You know, the band, the cheerleaders, the band, the drum majors and then the game. The SWAC need to have someone with a sports mind--not just football. I am so tired of every other conference making improvements and the SWAC keeps doing the same thing it did 20 years ago.
 
kendrick said:
I agree that the conference championship game should draw more, but it goes to show that SWAC fans are fair weather fans. If their team is not in that game then it they don't care. I think the SWAC has been stuck in the rut of marketing everything except the game. You know, the band, the cheerleaders, the band, the drum majors and then the game. The SWAC need to have someone with a sports mind--not just football. I am so tired of every other conference making improvements and the SWAC keeps doing the same thing it did 20 years ago.
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What conferences are you referring to?
If I understand correctly, the SCG did outnumber the Div 1-AA championship game. I understand the SCG could be better, but how is 23,000 for a national championship game better than 30,000 for a conference championship game?
 
JayRob said:
What conferences are you referring to?
If I understand correctly, the SCG did outnumber the Div 1-AA championship game. I understand the SCG could be better, but how is 23,000 for a national championship game better than 30,000 for a conference championship game?
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The problem is that everybody in the country believes their were 30,000 to see the band and the championship game had 23,000 true football fans. We have marketed our bands so much that people forget about we play football. Look at the swacpage it self, the band page has just as much action as the sports page does. Thats the problem. we need to refocus our out look on football..... and if we already seen them play before then whats to expect. what the team that lost the regular season game is going to win the second time around????? after the first game who cares about the rematch of three weeks ago...
 



JayRob said:
Dumbazz this has nothing to do with the SCG idiot.
So what if the SWAC might get mere crumbs from the NCAA, if that's the case?
What does this have to do with the SCG being moved to Jackson.

Quit comparing apples and oranges conehead.
Why don't y'all in bamans figure out how to get more fans in the stands then you wouldn't have to worry about big daddy ncaa giving you crumbs from the table.
What the ncaa gives to the SWAC is not even worth discussing. If the 180,000 dollar figure is correct, you divide that amongst the 10 schools, each gets a mere 18,000 dollars apiece.
That's barely enough to get two bands to one football game.
Man quit wasting my valuable time and talk about something that's worth talkin about.
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Actually my post had nothing to do with the SCG at all. I just simply used it as a reference point for showing you talking out of your ass. You don't know any of the facts and figures, but you're trying to explain to me how this thing works... :retard: And I told you the SWAC and the rest of D1AA got $225,000 last year. This year we will all probably get $250,000 from the BCS. In fact nobody is worried about what the NCAA gives us. Don't try to spin this because yo dumb ass got caught talking out of your ass YET AGAIN on here. If you don't know what the hell you are talking about, just STFU. George Bush arse boy.
 
Mr. SWAC said:
Actually my post had nothing to do with the SCG at all. I just simply used it as a reference point for showing you talking out of your ass. You don't know any of the facts and figures, but you're trying to explain to me how this thing works... :retard: And I told you the SWAC and the rest of D1AA got $225,000 last year. This year we will all probably get $250,000 from the BCS. In fact nobody is worried about what the NCAA gives us. Don't try to spin this because yo dumb ass got caught talking out of your ass YET AGAIN on here. If you don't know what the hell you are talking about, just STFU. George Bush arse boy.
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Man, you initially threw pot shots at me. I'm simply responding to you and will continue to do so.

Let's acknowledge my minor mistake and move on to something more significant like how the SCG can make more money by drawing more people.

You must be from bamma. If not you sound like one.

By the way, I could care less about some damn george bush and you no this.
 
It wasn't a mistake. A mistake is, "Oh I forgot about that", or "what I meant to type was"... What you did was talk out of your ass blindly, and got shown to be ignorant about the whole operations of the SWAC and how it is run.

I asked people who've BEEN TO A SCG (UAPB) what they thought about it and if Bham was in fact a problem. You know what they said, that they couldn't see what the whole fuss over Bham was all about. Originally they were just like you and everyone else just going off of what someone told them, but once they experienced it for themselves I guess they can see how foolish folks on the board are. Can you find a logical reason that makes sense/cent$ why the SWAC should leave Birmingham?

How is the SWAC gonna make more money if they move to Jackson? Explain that WITH FACTS AND FIGURES. Not inuendos and illusions of grandeur. Playing in Memorial Stadium cost MONEY. Bringing in SWAC bands for a BOTB cost MONEY. You made a entire post ripping Birmingham and had the audacity to mention New Orleans as a possible home for the SCG.:xeye::confused: There is a reason why we left New Orleans in the first place.
 
newboy said:
Did you watch the same bayou classic I seen? Why would someone want to give us a chance to shine after watching that mess? That game was embarrasing for the SWAC. Thank god, my tigers aren't playing on Nat'l TV with our current status.
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Bayou Classic DOES NOT have anything to do with the SWAC as a large have the chance to play in bowl games........

ALL of the Black Conference needs to sit at the table and start the talks....


Now if a independent man get make the Honda Battle of the Bands in ATL..............................

..ZERO excuse....................
 
Mr. SWAC said:
It wasn't a mistake. A mistake is, "Oh I forgot about that", or "what I meant to type was"... What you did was talk out of your ass blindly, and got shown to be ignorant about the whole operations of the SWAC and how it is run.

I asked people who've BEEN TO A SCG (UAPB) what they thought about it and if Bham was in fact a problem. You know what they said, that they couldn't see what the whole fuss over Bham was all about. Originally they were just like you and everyone else just going off of what someone told them, but once they experienced it for themselves I guess they can see how foolish folks on the board are. Can you find a logical reason that makes sense/cent$ why the SWAC should leave Birmingham?

How is the SWAC gonna make more money if they move to Jackson? Explain that WITH FACTS AND FIGURES. Not inuendos and illusions of grandeur. Playing in Memorial Stadium cost MONEY. Bringing in SWAC bands for a BOTB cost MONEY. You made a entire post ripping Birmingham and had the audacity to mention New Orleans as a possible home for the SCG.:xeye::confused: There is a reason why we left New Orleans in the first place.
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You're so happy an elated to find one mistake in my diatribe and you can't let it go.
Man, get a life and get off my jock with this NCAA crap.
What in the heck does how much the SWAC gets from the NCAA have to do with the SCG? Again I'll ask, what does how much the SWAC get from the NCAA have to do with the SCG? Nothing.

Facts and figures? I laid out the possibilities and potentials. If you missed go back and re-read them. At least I put them out there, and they were logical or I'm sure your fellow bammans would've pointed it out, but they haven't because they can't.
You just sittin' here talkin yang and ain't showed nothin.
I tell you what, IF you're not afraid, YOU, Mr. SWAC, lay out your reasons for keeping the game in B'ham and I'll once again lay out mine, then we'll compare and see which city would be BEST for the SCG.
I'll do the honor of letting you go first.
Now, don't punk out.

You mentioned figures. No one knows about ANY figures from Jackson because the game's never been played in Jackson. How could anyone give you figures when there are no figures? There are only potentialities and possibilities.
Those potentialities and possibilities seem to far outweigh the present status of the SCG.
To be a success, one has to take risks. If those risks don't pan out, you simply make adjustments. That's business 101.

If things are so grand in B'ham, why in the heck is the SWAC looking for a new city? Are they just wasting their time and money doing this?

Just because you have no imagination and creativity, (like the current SCG marketing director), don't stop others from at least trying to make the SCG what it could or should be.
Progress with us or get the hell outta the way.
 
Robber said:
So, the rest of I-AA would play a full playoff for the right to play the SWAC champs. That's NEVER gonna happen. Who are we to deserve that right??? Those playoff schools don't even respect us, but they're gonna agree to play a tourney to play us?
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Hopefully our AD's will one day recognize the importance of building our home game attendance and increased season ticket sales. I will use Grambling as my "example" because that's my alma mater.

We need more home games BUT against teams that folk (local and media) would be interested in attending. Robinson Stadium holds 19K...we need to arrange our schedule and upgrade our opponents such that we have sellouts at each game. Hopefully once the 12 game schedule is approved, The ICON will upgrade our schedule to include home and home against two (2) 1AA's paired such that it will be home and away in alternate years. We would still have one game left to play a "money" game against a BCS school.

Our current AD is a shrewd guy...I think he could arrange so that it could be a matchup such that we could be at home against one and on the road for the other based on the year: MEAC/Southland, Southern/Big Sky, Atlantic 10/Ivy League.

For instance, next year ( I believe the 12 game goes into effect) we play University of Pittsburgh. Why not schedule Appalachian State and Hampton (one at home and one on the road) to begin our schedule)? Once it is established that we will have an attractive home schedule each year (one that complements the current conference games), we will be even more marketable.
 
MikeBigg said:
Hopefully our AD's will one day recognize the importance of building our home game attendance and increased season ticket sales. I will use Grambling as my "example" because that's my alma mater.

We need more home games BUT against teams that folk (local and media) would be interested in attending. Robinson Stadium holds 19K...we need to arrange our schedule and upgrade our opponents such that we have sellouts at each game. Hopefully once the 12 game schedule is approved, The ICON will upgrade our schedule to include home and home against two (2) 1AA's paired such that it will be home and away in alternate years. We would still have one game left to play a "money" game against a BCS school.

Our current AD is a shrewd guy...I think he could arrange so that it could be a matchup such that we could be at home against one and on the road for the other based on the year: MEAC/Southland, Southern/Big Sky, Atlantic 10/Ivy League.

For instance, next year ( I believe the 12 game goes into effect) we play University of Pittsburgh. Why not schedule Appalachian State and Hampton (one at home and one on the road) to begin our schedule)? Once it is established that we will have an attractive home schedule each year (one that complements the current conference games), we will be even more marketable.
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A MikeBiggs sighting??!:nod:
 
Lot of folks come to the SWAC football games to watch the bands in the stand and at halftime. The SWAC is known for its bands and then sports.
 
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