SWAC football is getting better

[Bighead]

what stuff u speakin about

 

[stroke]

That is a very poor measuring stick. How many kids from ANY 1-AA programs go to the next level. And ONE good player does not make a team. UAPB was putting more in the NFL than any of us a few years ago but they still were getting beat by us.

The Measuring Stick is How we compare to the rest of the FCS(1-AA), and right now I dont see our teams able to compete with the top tier FCS schools.

 

[HORNETSWARM]

Bama State has nothing to be ashamed of...-Since its inception in 1999, ASU has been in (4) SCG's. Whether we won (1) out of (4) SCG's or whatever, we have been there more than any team in the SWAC other than GSU. AAMU has also probably been there (3-4) times. It shouldn't be to much of an argument. The SU team of 2003 was a good team and so was the 2004 team as far as I'm concerned. The Bama State 2004 SCG team was a good team and proved it on the field. There's more parity in the SWAC, but the talent isn't showing up in the NFL like in the past. I don't know what happened to this years JSU team other than some offensive blocking flaws for their QB. The Braves looked like they wanted it in the beginning, but they appear to drop off by seasons end every year. Since JC Cole has been at TSU, there's no telling what the SWAC-West will look like next year unless their DC is gone. If they have a decent QB next year and JC continues to work with Smalls, you can pretty much bet they will be right back in the SCG. The SWAC-East will probably be a toss-up between Bama State JSU and AAMU if AAMU can get them a top-notched QB. Bama State's almost entire team will be returning next year, but we also need that top-notched QB. Every team in the SWAC had weaknesses and each one of you know what your teams weaknesses were--SU for some reason or another finds QB's to get the job done regardless of this years results. They have been competitive over the years and every year they play Bama State, it's usually my SWAC game of the year. I've been to every game played in Baton Rouge since the rivalry started and for some reason I missed this years game. That 2004 years regular season game and the SCG game was two of the best I've witnessed and also the game against JSU in 2001 played @ JSU where ASU won 61-58 if I'm not mistaking. Don't count Bama State out of nothing, because we've had (4) years to prove we've beat teams to earn those (4) SCG games.

 

[Kendrick]

The Measuring Stick is How we compare to the rest of the FCS(1-AA), and right now I dont see our teams able to compete with the top tier FCS schools.

That's basically how the conference should measure itself. If SWAC schools are not beating anyone outside of the league on a regular basis, then obviously the level of football is not up to par comparatively.

 

[CEE DOG]

The Measuring Stick is How we compare to the rest of the FCS(1-AA), and right now I dont see our teams able to compete with the top tier FCS schools.

Man yall kill me with that mess. App St got beat to sleep by Villinov who wasn't even ranked. :lol:

 

[CEE DOG]

Since 1999, JSU has been twice, you went four and AAMU has been five. We have been the most thank you. Yall are second. :lol: AAMU is your daddy. Don't forget it. :lol:

Bama State has nothing to be ashamed of...-Since its inception in 1999, ASU has been in (4) SCG's. Whether we won (1) out of (4) SCG's or whatever, we have been there more than any team in the SWAC other than GSU. AAMU has also probably been there (3-4) times. It shouldn't be to much of an argument. The SU team of 2003 was a good team and so was the 2004 team as far as I'm concerned. The Bama State 2004 SCG team was a good team and proved it on the field. There's more parity in the SWAC, but the talent isn't showing up in the NFL like in the past. I don't know what happened to this years JSU team other than some offensive blocking flaws for their QB. The Braves looked like they wanted it in the beginning, but they appear to drop off by seasons end every year. Since JC Cole has been at TSU, there's no telling what the SWAC-West will look like next year unless their DC is gone. If they have a decent QB next year and JC continues to work with Smalls, you can pretty much bet they will be right back in the SCG. The SWAC-East will probably be a toss-up between Bama State JSU and AAMU if AAMU can get them a top-notched QB. Bama State's almost entire team will be returning next year, but we also need that top-notched QB. Every team in the SWAC had weaknesses and each one of you know what your teams weaknesses were--SU for some reason or another finds QB's to get the job done regardless of this years results. They have been competitive over the years and every year they play Bama State, it's usually my SWAC game of the year. I've been to every game played in Baton Rouge since the rivalry started and for some reason I missed this years game. That 2004 years regular season game and the SCG game was two of the best I've witnessed and also the game against JSU in 2001 played @ JSU where ASU won 61-58 if I'm not mistaking. Don't count Bama State out of nothing, because we've had (4) years to prove we've beat teams to earn those (4) SCG games.

 

[Tigerpride]

Since 1999, JSU has been twice, you went four and AAMU has been five. We have been the most thank you. Yall are second. :lol: AAMU is your daddy. Don't forget it. :lol:

JSU has been 3 times....1999, 2007 and 2008. But also those times you went in 2000 and 2002 were only becasue of the 7 game format when your losses to Grambling didn't count but ours did even tho we beat yo azz both years.

 

[J C]

Lets tell the whole truth sfa. You have a lot of SWAC "ppl," can't call them fans because MOST real fans are knowledgeable of the game they view and these dummies around these parts aren't too intelligent, who are just straight up coons w/ their thought process. Yes, I'm talking directly to you.

They don't understand the game beyond the game, IMO. For instance, they'd rather see a high-scoring 48-42 football game w/ zero defense lol vs a slugfest defensive battle coupled w/ field position battles and coaching decisions that will ultimately dictate the outcome of the game. Or, even in basketball, they'd get up out of their seat and swear it was the second coming of Jesus for a THUNDEROUS dunk by their squad while their squad shoots 27% from the charity stripe :lol: and 11% from 3-point land :emlaugh: in a losing effort. Just a bunch of dumb coons, IMO. And yes, I'm speaking directly to YOU, dummy(plural because there are plenty outside of the great state of Texas :wavey: lol).

Congrats on the football championship TSU. Y'all kicked the living shit out of every team y'all beat. :bowdown: :tup:

The following stats may explain why TxSU and Bama State played in the 2010 SCG.

SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Texas Southern 12 28 8 24 1 0 1 220 18.3
2. Alabama State 12 25 16 21 0 0 2 223 18.6
3. Grambling State 11 27 7 25 2 0 0 212 19.3
4. Prairie View A&M 11 28 8 22 1 0 1 218 19.8
5. Jackson State 11 31 9 28 1 0 2 247 22.5
6. Alabama A&M 11 36 5 30 0 0 1 263 23.9
7. Ark.-Pine Bluff 11 40 10 36 1 0 0 308 28.0
8. Alcorn State 11 42 10 33 1 0 1 319 29.0
9. Southern 11 50 8 42 2 0 1 372 33.8
10. Mississippi Valley 10 49 8 45 0 0 0 363 36.3

http://www.swac.org/sports/m-footbl/stats/2010-2011/confldrs.html

 

[usa today]

rotfl.

 

[Paul Dolemite Taylor]

I do agree with your keypoint however. DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE! It seperates the winners from pretenders..

Cosign and lets add PLAYER DEVELOPMENT to that wordtree too. The question is how do teams bounce back after successful seasons. We all know that everbody cant win the championship but having a competitive race year after year is a sign of parity. We have got to do better against upper echelon fcs and lower tier fbs schools.

 

[jsupop33]

Well TP,
If you say the talent level has fallen in all of FCS, then that includes us as well. The SWAC talent of the 2000's is not up to par with that of the 90's. If you say that is all of FCS, then it is what it is. That just means that FCS has a whole, has went backwards.

 

[jsupop33]

The following stats may explain why TxSU and Bama State played in the 2010 SCG.

SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Texas Southern 12 28 8 24 1 0 1 220 18.3
2. Alabama State 12 25 16 21 0 0 2 223 18.6
3. Grambling State 11 27 7 25 2 0 0 212 19.3
4. Prairie View A&M 11 28 8 22 1 0 1 218 19.8
5. Jackson State 11 31 9 28 1 0 2 247 22.5
6. Alabama A&M 11 36 5 30 0 0 1 263 23.9
7. Ark.-Pine Bluff 11 40 10 36 1 0 0 308 28.0
8. Alcorn State 11 42 10 33 1 0 1 319 29.0
9. Southern 11 50 8 42 2 0 1 372 33.8
10. Mississippi Valley 10 49 8 45 0 0 0 363 36.3

http://www.swac.org/sports/m-footbl/stats/2010-2011/confldrs.html

Bruh, the Bama state team of 2004 would have ran the 2010 team off the field.

 

[HORNETSWARM]

Since 1999, JSU has been twice, you went four and AAMU has been five. We have been the most thank you. Yall are second. :lol: AAMU is your daddy. Don't forget it. :lol:

Well CEE, that gives the teams from Bama (9) SCG's since 1999. That ain't to bad-9 out of 11 years.

 

[jsupop33]

Well CEE, that gives the teams from Bama (9) SCG's since 1999. That ain't to bad-9 out of 11 years.

so coalitionish.. smh..

 

[usa today]

Lord here goes other schools nutt riding other. It must be contagious.:lol::lol:

 

[Panther88]

If SWAC schools are not beating anyone outside of the league on a regular basis, then obviously the level of football is not up to par comparatively.

OOC competitivity. That's what I asked earlier. What was the SWAC's OOC record this fall as compared to lets say 10 yrs ago? D-II/NAIA included. lol Hell, there was a time that NAIA took PV to the woodshed while we continued to exist w/out fin backing in former D-Iaa'dom. :read:

 

[J C]

Bruh, the Bama state team of 2004 would have ran the 2010 team off the field.

That maybe so. Our 1992 team would have beaten our 2004 team by 3 TDs. I'm telling you why the two teams played in this year's championship game. TXSU won the SCG because of their defense and Bama State represented the East Divison because of their defense.

 

[Da Sleeper]

Reggie Benson obviously didn't watch the last scg. That was a horrible shameful display of football from both teams. Benson must have been bored when he wrote this

You so quick to talk shit about every one else. Please give a quick descripion of what jackson state looked like when casey's season ended early.

Tell us how jsu waisted a kids red shirt for 1-2 plays, and started running the wild cat with a damn lineman :smh:

If TSU w/o Arvell had played jsu w/o casey in the SCG, tsu would have beat jsu by >20 because jsu has no run defense. So Please STFU with this dumb mess brave....I mean gr.

 

[jsupop33]

That maybe so. Our 1992 team would have beaten our 2004 team by 3 TDs. I'm telling you why the two teams played in this year's championship game. TXSU won the SCG because of their defense and Bama State represented the East Divison because of their defense.

Not arguing with that. Simply pointing out how the talent leveled has declined significantly across the board.

 

[Da Sleeper]

Man yall kill me with that mess. App St got beat to sleep by Villinov who wasn't even ranked. :lol:

and Uconn who tsu was killed for loosing to by such a large margin won thier conference and has an automatic bid into a BCS Bowl game. Some of you on hear need to say this stuff out loud b4 you post it.

Gram and tsu had solid teams this year, easy to see why they ran through the conference and I witnessed some great ball games this year. I guess it could be that the rest of you were down this year but GSU and TSU were solid. I guess that explains thier records.

 

[HORNETSWARM]

That maybe so. Our 1992 team would have beaten our 2004 team by 3 TDs. I'm telling you why the two teams played in this year's championship game. TXSU won the SCG because of their defense and Bama State represented the East Divison because of their defense.

That's maybe true JC......However, our 1991 Championship team ran the table on everybody including Troy St.---We just happened to tie Tx.So. that year...

 

[JROCK]

JROCK'S SWAC Improvement Elevator

1970's-Outstanding
1980-'s Decline but Formidable
1990-'s Even
2000's-Decline
2010-Pending

JROCK'S Indvidual SWAC Team Elevator-1990-2010

1) PVU-Increase
2) TXSU-Increase
3) Alabama State-Increase
4) Grambling State-Stable
5) Alabama A&M-Stable (measurement less than 20 years)
6) Southern U. Decline
7) Jackson State-Decline
8) UAPB-Decline
9) Alcorn State-Decline
10) MVSU-Decline

***Summation-Indicators suggest that the league is walking a tight rope for this decade. Two former powerhouses (JSU and S.U.) has taken a fall from grace. Texas Southern University and Prairie View A&M has emerged but hasn't established consistency. Hence, the verdict is still out on these two programs. Grambling State and Alabama A&M are the most stable programs with Grambling State being the front runner. Bama State program though showing an increase over the last twenty years is not as stable as the two aforementioned)*****

This overview was brought to you by JROCK'S Pic Em Winners!!!! Covering the SWAC like Red Beans on Rice!!! :lol: :emlaugh:

 

[BULL DAWG]

JROCK'S SWAC Improvement Elevator

1970's-Outstanding
1980-'s Decline but Formidable
1990-'s Even
2000's-Decline
2010-Pending

JROCK'S Indvidual SWAC Team Elevator-1990-2010

1) PVU-Increase
2) TXSU-Increase
3) Alabama State-Increase
4) Grambling State-Stable
5) Alabama A&M-Stable (measurement less than 20 years)
6) Southern U. Decline
7) Jackson State-Decline
8) UAPB-Decline
9) Alcorn State-Decline
10) MVSU-Decline

***Summation-Indicators suggest that the league is walking a tight rope for this decade. Two former powerhouses (JSU and S.U.) has taken a fall from grace. Texas Southern University and Prairie View A&M has emerged but hasn't established consistency. Hence, the verdict is still out on these two programs. Grambling State and Alabama A&M are the most stable programs with Grambling State being the front runner. Bama State program though showing an increase over the last twenty years is not as stable as the two aforementioned)*****

This overview was brought to you by JROCK'S Pic Em Winners!!!! Covering the SWAC like Red Beans on Rice!!! :lol: :emlaugh:

I think this is the most accurate assessment, yet!

 

[jsupop33]

and Uconn who tsu was killed for loosing to by such a large margin won thier conference and has an automatic bid into a BCS Bowl game. Some of you on hear need to say this stuff out loud b4 you post it.

Gram and tsu had solid teams this year, easy to see why they ran through the conference and I witnessed some great ball games this year. I guess it could be that the rest of you were down this year but GSU and TSU were solid. I guess that explains thier records.

So do you think the SWAC Championship teams of 2005-2010, were equal in talent to the SWAC championship teams of the 70's, 80's and 90's?

 

[The GSU]

JRock, you have given the only true and fair assessment. But I want to add that the once top teams in this conference have declined from a overall talent perspective. I truly only watch SWAC games when Grambling is playing. At Grambling, we don't have the talent depth we once had, but we have remained the most consistent team in the conference. This whole parity 'BS' doesn't mean conference has gotten better. It may mean we simply have some one and done teams due the lack of sustained talent. It is easy to chase, but do have the talent to be chased. You can't say a conference has gotten better but can't win a game outside of conference. Conf champ loses to a D2 school which isn't by 'no' means.

3 dollar bill, I see you still up to the same old bs post. Why are you so fake?