Source: USC, UCLA considering move from Pac-12 to Big Ten as early as 2024


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Washington and Arizona are also major research schools, but they like the athletics money too
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Arizona and Washington are not in the Bay area (that was your question that I quoted).

Arizona has a nationally competitive Basketball program, that is one of the reasons they are interested the Big 12.

Washington is interested in both, but the academics hold a strong sway at the University of Washington.
 

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The future of the PAC 10 will be determined today, the deal will be presented to the remaining institutions at 9 PDT.

If Its not good, I expect Arizona to leave. The PAC 8 will invite at least 2 schools to join. If its really bad, then more schools might leave.

As a college football fan, I hope the PAC survives.
 
Olde Hornet said:
The future of the PAC 10 will be determined today, the deal will be presented to the remaining institutions at 9 PDT.

If Its not good, I expect Arizona to leave. The PAC 8 will invite at least 2 schools to join. If its really bad, then more schools might leave.

As a college football fan, I hope the PAC survives.
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Gotta think the Pac-whatever would entertain raiding the Mountain West
 
Looks like Arizona might leave, the others may will stay. ASU and Utah want to stay because of academic reasons. There is a push from the Athletic staff to move because they feel they wont be able to compete in recruiting when their games will only be available on a streaming service (Apple TV).

The view is that the conference will fold into the Mountain West eventfully, with Oregon and Washington going to the Big 10 eventually.
 

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RIP Pac-10/12

They're not dead yet but they will be soon if Oregon and Washington leave (Cal and Stanford are more natural fits for the Big 10 but they're just add ons at this point)
 
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From the column:

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It’s all deeply insulting and hypocritical for a bunch of millionaire leaders who bloviate about “student-athlete welfare,” then assign them geographically ridiculous tasks. The leaders of college athletes don’t care about the athletes, or the fans. They’ll push them both to the breaking point in search of a higher profit margin.

The school presidents, athletic directors and conference commissioners all should be ashamed of their role in tearing asunder the fabric of college sports. But they’re too busy taking orders from TV partners and counting the resulting revenue. Yet and still, there is nobody looking out for the greater good of the entire enterprise—nobody willing to throw on the brakes and slow the gravy train.

The hysteria reached a point Wednesday when Florida State leaders publicly fomented a revolution against the ACC in a live-streamed board of trustees meeting. “I believe that FSU will have to, at some point, consider very seriously leaving the ACC, unless there were a radical change to the revenue distribution,” president Rick McCullough said. Trustee Drew Weatherford, a former Seminoles quarterback, took that rhetoric up another notch: “It’s not a matter of if we leave, in my opinion. It’s a matter of how and when we leave.” Another trustee called for an exit plan by 2025.

Consider that FSU is contractually obligated to the ACC for another 11 years beyond ’25. Where the school is going, and how it’s planning to escape a binding grant of rights, remain to be seen. But the FSU stance is clear: the ‘Noles need more money—everyone always needs more money—and are willing to trash any alliances or obligations that stand in the way of that pursuit of cash.

The rest of the ACC is well within its rights to be deeply insulted by this. But Florida State’s perceived status (along with Clemson and maybe Miami) as the football revenue drivers in the league might buy it some appeasement in the form of expediting an uneven revenue split. That’s been discussed earlier this year, but not yet firmed up.

If FSU succeeds in leaving, that throws the entire ACC into turmoil and could be the final step toward some Doomsday Consolidation Consortium. Because Lord knows the Pac-12 is already well down the road to ruin on the other coast.

The demise of the Pac-12—begun last year with the exit of USC and UCLA to the Big Ten—has never been closer to happening. Lightweight member Colorado abandoned for the Big 12 last week, with so-called Four Corners partners Arizona, Arizona State and Utah currently contemplating following the Buffaloes after an underwhelming media-rights agreement was put on the table Tuesday. Then came the news Wednesday afternoon that another two-to-four Pac-12 schools are under preliminary consideration to join the Big Ten: Oregon, Washington, Stanford and California.

Stanford and Cal are clearly of greater interest to the university presidents than the TV networks—their academic cachet is immense and their location near Silicon Valley and San Francisco is advantageous, while their athletic followings are small and mostly indifferent. But several campus leadership situations are in flux: Ohio State has no president; Northwestern’s president is under fire for his handling of the football hazing investigation; USC’s chancellor is similarly facing scrutiny after the abrupt resignation of athletic director Mike Bohn; Wisconsin’s chancellor has been on the job less than four months. On the other side of the equation, Stanford just accepted the resignation of its president after his scientific research was found to have had “data manipulation” issues.

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This could have a nasty ripple effect - if the pac 12 poaches from the mountain west then that affects the new CUSA in terms of the western teams or AAC - sun belt could get involved again also -

Only brands honestly left with fb pedigree at that point starts in the swac
 
Storm96 said:
This makes the most sense. The Big 10 will easily have the most leverage when negotiating media rights in the future. No other conference footprint can compete with the LA, Chicago, Seattle, and Bay Area markets. Texas probably should've gone to the Big 10 instead of the SEC
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Or maybe everyone should have just stayed where they were. The SEC just made a fool outta them folks.
 
Looks like Arizona State and Utah are moving to Big 12, they are fearing the collapse of the conference with the Big 10 expressing interest in Oregon and Washington (maybe Stanford and California).
 
Washington and Oregon are headed to the Big 10.

Arizona is moving to the Big 12.

It will be interesting to see if Utah and Arizona State state or move to the Big 12. If they stay, they will likely end up in the Mountain West. Both schools feel that academically the Big 12 is beneath them, hence the hesitation on moving.

California, Stanford, Washington State and Oregon State are stuck looking for a new home.
 
SDSU went from s*** to crawling to the MWC to actually not being in a bad spot right now. What's left of the Pac-12 probably merges with the MWC (Oregon State, Wazzou) or goes independent (Stanford, maybe Cal). If Wazzou and OSU join the MWC, that's a pretty respectable core of team that could get a good media deal that is a lot better than anything that the Pac-12 could garner

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