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Question: Don't strippers/escorts usually have body guards with them on house calls? Not trying to divert or anything, just an observation.
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GAMES called off at DUKE for SEX SCANDAL.
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dacontinent
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Re: A woman hired to dance for the Duke lacrosse team describes a night of racial sl
All Dr. H is saying is that the ladies did not safeguard themselves as they should have or just walked away from the deal. With a crowd that large, they put themselves in a position where such a thing could easily happen to them. No, it should not have happened. No one is condoning the actions of these men. These women were disrespected and violated, and I am glad to see that the university is doing the right thing to investigate it.
When I was a kid we did not have locks on the doors nor windows of our house and nothing was ever stolen. If I were to do that today, I would be putting my family in a position to be robbed/burglarized.
ASU2002 said:
All Dr. H is saying is that the ladies did not safeguard themselves as they should have or just walked away from the deal. With a crowd that large, they put themselves in a position where such a thing could easily happen to them. No, it should not have happened. No one is condoning the actions of these men. These women were disrespected and violated, and I am glad to see that the university is doing the right thing to investigate it.
When I was a kid we did not have locks on the doors nor windows of our house and nothing was ever stolen. If I were to do that today, I would be putting my family in a position to be robbed/burglarized.
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Its on SportsCenter now. There's supposed to be a news conference at 7 on ESPNews.
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Jafus (Thinker)
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Police Release 911 Tapes in Alleged Rape Case Eyewitness News
(03/28/06 -- DURHAM) - Police have released the 911 tapes from the night of an alleged gang rape at a Durham party.
All but one member of the Duke lacrosse team are under suspicion in the alleged rape of a dancer at a March 13 party at a Buchanan Blvd. house. The alleged victim and another woman were hired to dance for members of the team. The alleged victim says three of the players raped her.
An hour before the rape was reported, 911 operators received calls from another woman who was walking by the party.
"It's right in front of 610 Buchanan [Blvd.] , and I saw them all come out like a big frat house, and me and black girlfriend are walking by, and they called us n-----s," the caller said.
An hour later, a 27-year-old dancer reports being strangled, kicked, beaten and raped by three members of Duke's lacrosse team. Traumatized and full of fear, she retreated to a nearby grocery store and refused to get out of the car until an officer arrived.
"The problem is, it's a lady in somebody else's car and she will not get out of the car," the 911 caller said. "The owner of the car is right here and she says she can explain what happened."
New affidavits show that some of the evidence seized at the home of the players and forensic evidence taken from the victim are consistent with rape. Investigators say they found four broken fingernails the 27-year-old dancer says were broken as she to fight off three attackers. They also recovered her makeup bag, cellphone, and identification.
The documents say some players threatened to assault the victims sexually with a broom as they performed. Court documents also say team members tried to create an "atmosphere of confusion" by giving fake names to hire the strippers.
Investigators say they are encountering a stonewall of silence against a mounting pile of evidence.
"Based on what I know about the crime, is that it is highly unlikely that the people at that crime scene who where not directly involved in the crime did not know that something untoward was going on," said Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong.
Two weeks into the investigation, Nifong says he has received little cooperation from Duke lacrosse team members.
Durham CrimeStoppers is making a new plea for help in the investigation. Officials sent out an e-mail Tuesday afternoon, saying in part:
"Although we have received many calls expressing concerns and anger about this incident, we have not received any calls which would allow us to assist in resolving this case&We are extending our plea for information and help to our Duke family, who are also part of our community."
The police department's plea is the latest in a PR battle between investigators and Duke University officials. It comes one day after Duke President Richard Brodhead said the team had been cooperative.
"My information is that they have been cooperating all along with the investigation," he told Eyewitness News.
DNA samples from the lacrosse players did not come voluntarily. District Attorney Nifong said Tuesday that Duke is not hampering the investigation.
Meanwhile, the Durham chapter of the NAACP is asking for a private meeting with Duke officials.
(03/28/06 -- DURHAM) - Police have released the 911 tapes from the night of an alleged gang rape at a Durham party.
All but one member of the Duke lacrosse team are under suspicion in the alleged rape of a dancer at a March 13 party at a Buchanan Blvd. house. The alleged victim and another woman were hired to dance for members of the team. The alleged victim says three of the players raped her.
An hour before the rape was reported, 911 operators received calls from another woman who was walking by the party.
"It's right in front of 610 Buchanan [Blvd.] , and I saw them all come out like a big frat house, and me and black girlfriend are walking by, and they called us n-----s," the caller said.
An hour later, a 27-year-old dancer reports being strangled, kicked, beaten and raped by three members of Duke's lacrosse team. Traumatized and full of fear, she retreated to a nearby grocery store and refused to get out of the car until an officer arrived.
"The problem is, it's a lady in somebody else's car and she will not get out of the car," the 911 caller said. "The owner of the car is right here and she says she can explain what happened."
New affidavits show that some of the evidence seized at the home of the players and forensic evidence taken from the victim are consistent with rape. Investigators say they found four broken fingernails the 27-year-old dancer says were broken as she to fight off three attackers. They also recovered her makeup bag, cellphone, and identification.
The documents say some players threatened to assault the victims sexually with a broom as they performed. Court documents also say team members tried to create an "atmosphere of confusion" by giving fake names to hire the strippers.
Investigators say they are encountering a stonewall of silence against a mounting pile of evidence.
"Based on what I know about the crime, is that it is highly unlikely that the people at that crime scene who where not directly involved in the crime did not know that something untoward was going on," said Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong.
Two weeks into the investigation, Nifong says he has received little cooperation from Duke lacrosse team members.
Durham CrimeStoppers is making a new plea for help in the investigation. Officials sent out an e-mail Tuesday afternoon, saying in part:
"Although we have received many calls expressing concerns and anger about this incident, we have not received any calls which would allow us to assist in resolving this case&We are extending our plea for information and help to our Duke family, who are also part of our community."
The police department's plea is the latest in a PR battle between investigators and Duke University officials. It comes one day after Duke President Richard Brodhead said the team had been cooperative.
"My information is that they have been cooperating all along with the investigation," he told Eyewitness News.
DNA samples from the lacrosse players did not come voluntarily. District Attorney Nifong said Tuesday that Duke is not hampering the investigation.
Meanwhile, the Durham chapter of the NAACP is asking for a private meeting with Duke officials.
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Obviously those athletes at Duke felt the same way.DAHILL said:
Anyway, it's all a state of mind. Men in moslem countries think that ALL American women are sluts.
I give people respect regardless of their background and their situation. Somehow or another people forget that other people have family that love them just like you have family that love you. Whose to say that these strippers or EXOCTIC DANCERS' family members are not trying to persuade them to lead another lifestyle? These ladies are not characters in a video game that have no feelings and no family that love them. These are real people with real situations that affect them.
levarg
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DAHILL said:
What if it was your sister or a close friend in that situation and she decided to strip to pay for college or take care of her child. Would you treat her like a slut?
The point of that is you don't know what situation they have which eventually led them to stripping. I am not trying to tell you off or anything I think this is a situation in which our black women basically encounter the Klan and was raped an beaten and as a black man that should make you think about how powerful racism is.
That is so lame. They are a minority like us so they deserve respect. The KKK is a minority like us. Think about your logic.ASU2002 said:
Now these girls were prostitutes plain and simple. The article said they did 3 one on one dates a week.
However they did not deserve to be raped.
However they should expect to get raped. Prostitutes get raped. It is that simple. If you choose to be a prostitute or stripper then you should expect to get raped.
Just at the rapists should now expect to go to jail....Stupid!!! Go to jail for raping a ho.
They racial comments are another matter.
Jafus (Thinker)
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I figured it was a matter of time.
Duke's lax team suspended pending DNA results
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2387151
Associated Press
DURHAM, N.C. -- Duke University's highly ranked lacrosse team will not play again this season until school administrators learn more about allegations that several team members raped an exotic dancer at an off-campus party, the school said Tuesday.
President Richard Brodhead decided to suspend the team from play "until there is a clearer resolution of the legal situation involving team members," the university said.
The case has roiled the campus, raised racial tensions and heightened antagonism between the affluent students at Duke, which costs about $43,000 a year, and the city of Durham, which has a large population of poor people and is about evenly divided between white and black.
A woman told police she and another dancer were hired to perform March 13 at a private party in an off-campus home. The dancer, a student at North Carolina Central University, told police she was pulled into a bathroom, beaten, choked and raped by three men.
No one has been charged.
Armed with a judge's order, police took DNA samples with a cheek swab from 46 of the lacrosse team's 47 players last week. The 47th player, the only black member of the team, did not have to provide DNA because the dancer said her attackers were white.
"I needed to have the information about who will be charged," said District Attorney Mike Nifong said. "I feel pretty confident that a rape occurred."
Brodhead said team captains notified athletic director Joe Alleva on Tuesday that players wanted to stay off the field until the DNA results came back from a crime lab. In a statement, the captains predicted the DNA testing would clear the players of wrongdoing.
Brodhead said it was his decision to expand the suspension.
"In this painful period of uncertainty, it is clear to me, as it was to the players, that it would be inappropriate to resume the normal schedule of play," Brodhead said.
Nifong said the team members are standing together and refusing to talk with investigators, and he warned he may bring aiding-and-abetting charges against some of the players.
The alleged victim is black, which has proved a source of tension on campus.
"The circumstances of the rape indicated a deep racial motivation for some of the things that were done," Nifong said. "It makes a crime that is by its nature one of the most offensive and invasive even more so."
Angry over the team members' silence and the university's handling of the case, Durham residents have demonstrated on and off campus in the past few days. They rallied outside the house where the alleged attack occurred, and gathered outside of Duke Provost Peter Lange's home, where they banged on pots and pans until he emerged to answer questions.
Lange said Monday that he believes "the students would be well-advised to come forward. They have chosen not to."
Durham lawyer Bill Thomas said he was hired by the family of one team member and that there was "no corroborated evidence at this point that anything happened to give rise to any liability -- civil or criminal -- with the possible exception of alcohol violations."
A lawyer representing several other lacrosse team members did not immediately return calls Tuesday.
Duke University spokesman John Burness said the three players who lived in the house where the party occurred had moved out. Burness also said other students had hired lawyers who advised them not to talk about the party.
The DNA samples taken from the 46 team members arrived Monday at a state crime lab, which agreed to work quickly on the case.
The school originally said the team would forfeit two games -- Saturday's home match vs. Georgetown and a Tuesday game vs. Mount St. Mary's -- for conduct at the party that was inappropriate, including serving alcohol to underage students and hiring women from the escort service. The losses gave Duke, considered a national title contender before the season began, a 6-4 record with five regular-season games to go.
Duke's lax team suspended pending DNA results
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2387151
Associated Press
DURHAM, N.C. -- Duke University's highly ranked lacrosse team will not play again this season until school administrators learn more about allegations that several team members raped an exotic dancer at an off-campus party, the school said Tuesday.
President Richard Brodhead decided to suspend the team from play "until there is a clearer resolution of the legal situation involving team members," the university said.
The case has roiled the campus, raised racial tensions and heightened antagonism between the affluent students at Duke, which costs about $43,000 a year, and the city of Durham, which has a large population of poor people and is about evenly divided between white and black.
A woman told police she and another dancer were hired to perform March 13 at a private party in an off-campus home. The dancer, a student at North Carolina Central University, told police she was pulled into a bathroom, beaten, choked and raped by three men.
No one has been charged.
Armed with a judge's order, police took DNA samples with a cheek swab from 46 of the lacrosse team's 47 players last week. The 47th player, the only black member of the team, did not have to provide DNA because the dancer said her attackers were white.
"I needed to have the information about who will be charged," said District Attorney Mike Nifong said. "I feel pretty confident that a rape occurred."
Brodhead said team captains notified athletic director Joe Alleva on Tuesday that players wanted to stay off the field until the DNA results came back from a crime lab. In a statement, the captains predicted the DNA testing would clear the players of wrongdoing.
Brodhead said it was his decision to expand the suspension.
"In this painful period of uncertainty, it is clear to me, as it was to the players, that it would be inappropriate to resume the normal schedule of play," Brodhead said.
Nifong said the team members are standing together and refusing to talk with investigators, and he warned he may bring aiding-and-abetting charges against some of the players.
The alleged victim is black, which has proved a source of tension on campus.
"The circumstances of the rape indicated a deep racial motivation for some of the things that were done," Nifong said. "It makes a crime that is by its nature one of the most offensive and invasive even more so."
Angry over the team members' silence and the university's handling of the case, Durham residents have demonstrated on and off campus in the past few days. They rallied outside the house where the alleged attack occurred, and gathered outside of Duke Provost Peter Lange's home, where they banged on pots and pans until he emerged to answer questions.
Lange said Monday that he believes "the students would be well-advised to come forward. They have chosen not to."
Durham lawyer Bill Thomas said he was hired by the family of one team member and that there was "no corroborated evidence at this point that anything happened to give rise to any liability -- civil or criminal -- with the possible exception of alcohol violations."
A lawyer representing several other lacrosse team members did not immediately return calls Tuesday.
Duke University spokesman John Burness said the three players who lived in the house where the party occurred had moved out. Burness also said other students had hired lawyers who advised them not to talk about the party.
The DNA samples taken from the 46 team members arrived Monday at a state crime lab, which agreed to work quickly on the case.
The school originally said the team would forfeit two games -- Saturday's home match vs. Georgetown and a Tuesday game vs. Mount St. Mary's -- for conduct at the party that was inappropriate, including serving alcohol to underage students and hiring women from the escort service. The losses gave Duke, considered a national title contender before the season began, a 6-4 record with five regular-season games to go.
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levarg said:
Rest assured. They will not get away with this at Duke.
levarg
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dacontinent said:
I agree I don't think they will get away with it, however I think that they will not suffer the full wrath for the law. If the tables were turned (black men and two white women) they have to be on the basketball team and play like Kobe to get at least the same sentence as these white guys.
This is a "what happens next". I can look at the composition of the BB team and tell how racist the campus is. Less serious things happen each day. The blacks (tokens) take it to keep thier jobs. It is happening all over America as we speak.levarg said:
Any time you recruit white players that heavily this day and age, you are purposely avoiding blacks.
You said strippers, like us is a minority. By that logic any group that has less members than the majority (whites) is a minority. There are less KKK members than there are whites in America, hence they area a minority following your statement's logic.levarg said:
Rapists would be a minority.
Because a group is a minority does not mean they share or can compare to blacks. Homosexuals are a minority, poor whites, strippers, rapists, millionaires, murderers, pedafiles (sp), should all those groups be compared to us?
EDITING----I AM ATTRIBUTING ASU2002'S COMMENTS TO YOU, LEVERG. SORRY. BUT EXPLAINATION STANDS
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UAPB-LIONS-AM&N said:
Unfortunately, you not the only man who thinks like that. That's why women and especially sistahs have a cold demeanor about them when they are out in public because most men don't have a clue about respecting women. So quick to call a woman HO and so slow to respect them as human beings.
levarg
The Elite BRAVE
UAPB-LIONS-AM&N said:
I agree with you totally however most of the tokens not all of them are usually the negros that are happy to be a at a white school because he feels that he have gain some level of prestige ( Uncle Toms)and they accept whatever treatment is handed to them Student or faculty. Black students at PWI' s have develop that mind set that treatment like that is part of the college experience and they allow it to happen and they look at students or graduates from HBCU as pampered or we have it easy at because we didn't go through the intuitional racism their campus provided them.
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