Division 1 HBCUs Should Consider Dropping Football To Gain Basketball Glory


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Division 1 HBCUs Should Consider Dropping Football To Gain Basketball Glory
By Kendrick Marshall on March 27, 2013

The improbable Sweet 16 run by Florida Gulf Coast University means a lot of things to a lot of people.

For some, it means the NCAA Tournament has a true Cinderella to rally around. For the press, it means a story that can be used to build on the myth that March Madness masks all the ills facing Mark Emmert’s multimillion-dollar operation.

For the common man engaged in an office pool, it more than likely means his bracket is worth just as much as the money Ole Miss star Marshall Henderson attempted to use to purchase illegal drugs with on one occasion.

For historically black college basketball observers, it means lamenting why their alma mater can’t win two games in the NCAA Tournament like a school no one even knew existed or thought was one of those Internet-based colleges prior to last week.

Read the rest: http://www.tspnsports.com/2013/03/2...ropping-football-to-gain-basketball-glory.htm
 



I will be the first to say that it will likely never happen. We worship football at HBCUs REGARDLESS of the cost. But given the horror stories we heard, read, experienced and talked about on this very forum regarding football budgets...some of our school quite frankly don't need - or should I say - can't afford football programs.
 
Yeah, Saturdays in the fall are intoxicating with the pageantry that is the bands, halftime show, tailgating and actual football played on the field. But would you trade all that for where FGCU is right now?
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SAME OLD G said:
Division 1 HBCUs Should Consider Dropping Football To Gain Basketball Glory
By Kendrick Marshall on March 27, 2013

The improbable Sweet 16 run by Florida Gulf Coast University means a lot of things to a lot of people.

For some, it means the NCAA Tournament has a true Cinderella to rally around. For the press, it means a story that can be used to build on the myth that March Madness masks all the ills facing Mark Emmert’s multimillion-dollar operation.

For the common man engaged in an office pool, it more than likely means his bracket is worth just as much as the money Ole Miss star Marshall Henderson attempted to use to purchase illegal drugs with on one occasion.

For historically black college basketball observers, it means lamenting why their alma mater can’t win two games in the NCAA Tournament like a school no one even knew existed or thought was one of those Internet-based colleges prior to last week.

Read the rest: http://www.tspnsports.com/2013/03/2...ropping-football-to-gain-basketball-glory.htm
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Makes no sense
 
I'm not so much inclined for giving up football @ HBCUs (see Duke, Univ Kentucky, Kansas, et al bball powerhouses for examples) but I do think HBCUs could make a LOT more noise in basketball than in football if more allotted $$$$ were funneled towards basketball development. :read:

However, it would require a plan w/ vision, which is something that's seen as much as bigfoot is around HBCU campuses. :smh:
 
we're in states where basketball is 3rd behind football and spring football....hoops magic only occurs in march wit tourney runs
 
SOGGY,
He answered it. Because football Saturdays are "intoxicating pageantry that is the bands, halftime show, tailgating and actual football played on the field". Sorry, but I wouldn't give that up for a fleeting moment in the sun. Florida Gulf Coast can have that moment, but I'll take the Magic City Classic, I'll take Turkey Day Classic (yeah, we lost the game, but that was the absolute BEST homecoming EVER)
Basketball was my sport growing up, but I won't tell myself that basketball has the same draw as football. It simply doesn't.
 
Panther88 said:
I'm not so much inclined for giving up football @ HBCUs (see Duke, Univ Kentucky, Kansas, et al bball powerhouses for examples) but I do think HBCUs could make a LOT more noise in basketball than in football if more allotted $$$$ were funneled towards basketball development. :read:

However, it would require a plan w/ vision, which is something that's seen as much as bigfoot is around HBCU campuses. :smh:
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Exactly! :tup:
 
mighty hornet said:
SOGGY,
He answered it. Because football Saturdays are "intoxicating pageantry that is the bands, halftime show, tailgating and actual football played on the field". Sorry, but I wouldn't give that up for a fleeting moment in the sun. Florida Gulf Coast can have that moment, but I'll take the Magic City Classic, I'll take Turkey Day Classic (yeah, we lost the game, but that was the absolute BEST homecoming EVER)
Basketball was my sport growing up, but I won't tell myself that basketball has the same draw as football. It simply doesn't.
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Cool! :tup:
 
Panther88 said:
I'm not so much inclined for giving up football @ HBCUs (see Duke, Univ Kentucky, Kansas, et al bball powerhouses for examples) but I do think HBCUs could make a LOT more noise in basketball than in football if more allotted $$$$ were funneled towards basketball development. :read:

However, it would require a plan w/ vision, which is something that's seen as much as bigfoot is around HBCU campuses. :smh:
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:tup:

SAME OLD G said:
I will be the first to say that it will likely never happen. We worship football at HBCUs REGARDLESS of the cost. But given the horror stories we heard, read, experienced and talked about on this very forum regarding football budgets...some of our school quite frankly don't need - or should I say - can't afford football programs.
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:tup:

It might be time for HBCU's to change our focus. As much as we invest in football...where is it really getting us?!
 
southsuburbs said:
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It might be time for HBCU's to change our focus. As much as we invest in football...where is it really getting us?!
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And that is all this article is addressing. Some are trying to dismiss it as if it doesn't make sense, but the points made are valid.
 



And more prospective students who will flood the school with applications. An offshoot of March Madness for teams that create the kind of buzz the Eagles have is a much-increased enrollment -- an in-demand, well-rounded educational experience.

Butler University, for instance: Two studies estimated that television, print, and online news coverage of Butler's men's basketball team's 2010 and 2011 appearances in the NCAA tournament championship game resulted in additional publicity for the university worth about $1.2 billion. Applications for admission to Butler rose by 41 percent after the 2010 appearance.

Another school reported to have experienced a similar growth spurt as a result of a basketball accomplishment was the University of Northern Iowa. In the 2010 NCAA Tournament, the Panthers sprung an upset of top-ranked Kansas. The game and the national exposure that went with it led to massive increases in donations, website traffic, and e-commerce for the athletic department, and a 30 percent increase in calls to UNI's admissions office on the Monday after the upset.

The Eagles (whose school's athletic budget is $9.2 million) go on to face the University of Florida Gators ($107.2 million in comparison) on March 29.
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$1.2 BILLION.
 
you invest in hoops and get bounced in the SWAC Tourney....doesn't go far

but that same 0-8 team can draw 30K for a classic.....

FGCU didn't even win their conference...they won the tourney so its luck of the draw
 
If Southern didn't have a football team, does that mean they would have beat Gonzaga?

Of course not. I think it's very short sighted to suggest that we should forego who we are for a flash in the pan. I gave the example of MCC and TDC, but I'm sure ALL of us can name games/events that are important to us, to our schools. Sure we want to win at bball, but NOT at the expense that kendrick is suggesting. Sorry. Football is king for us.
 
the band fan said:
you invest in hoops and get bounced in the SWAC Tourney....doesn't go far

but that same 0-8 team can draw 30K for a classic.....

FGCU didn't even win their conference...they won the tourney so its luck of the draw
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That may be the case of FGCU, which is indeed the exception, but we all know too well that programs with larger budgets (in most cases) fare better than those with smaller budgets.
 
So with no football, how are we going to finance the other non-revenue sports like baseball, softball, etc.?
 
mighty hornet said:
If Southern didn't have a football team, does that mean they would have beat Gonzaga?

Of course not. I think it's very short sighted to suggest that we should forego who we are for a flash in the pan. I gave the example of MCC and TDC, but I'm sure ALL of us can name games/events that are important to us, to our schools. Sure we want to win at bball, but NOT at the expense that kendrick is suggesting. Sorry. Football is king for us.
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They may not have beaten Gonzaga, but without a football program and having more money go towards basketball (which is cheaper to maintain) is it possible Southern could have gotten in the tourney with a seed lower than 16?
 
Just looked at some numbers. FGCU spends almost $10M on athletics without football. They are definitely investing in their product.
 
southsuburbs said:
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It might be time for HBCU's to change our focus. As much as we invest in football...where is it really getting us?!
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:tup:

People are not thinking deep enough. I would really like to see how much football brings in versus basketball after all the expenses are paid, i.e. salaries, travel, equipment, injuries, etc....

I think that if our schools invested more in basketball which to me outside of baseball is the most evenly played sport our HBCUs could make a ton of noise.
 
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