buckwheat1911
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I don't have the performance, but the car is fast.
The REAL issue with electric cars! Your input?
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buckwheat1911
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I'm driving to Mississippi tomorrow in the model y. This will be my first long trip outside of driving to New York from Maryland. @CEE DOG I checked out my trip to see what charging stations are along the way. Huntsville will be one of my stops before charging again in Tupelo, MS. I'm driving home to go to a funeral this weekend.
pvdogteam
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Don't forget to let us know how the trip went. I enjoyed my trip from Boston to Dallas in my son's Model 3 Performance
buckwheat1911
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So far, I have spent maybe $100 one way charging the car. I stopped like six times to charge the car before making it to Tupelo,MS. Each of my stops were between twenty minutes and forty minutes. That increased my travel time to an extra two hours.
bernard
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The demand for electric vehicles is not meeting the projected forecast from auto manufacturers, and Ford is one company cutting back on EV production in favor of internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles, according to The New York Times.
The appearance at this stage is that both legacy automakers are worrying about overproducing against demand.
"After the pandemic, there was a huge exuberance around EVs, and I think a lot of the manufacturers thought that growth was going to continue," Arun Kumar, a partner and managing director in the automotive and industrial practice at AlixPartners, told the Times. "But the reality is that's not the case, and it's a smart move to make sure you're not losing market share in internal combustion."
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What's happening?
While the company still plans to make EVs more broadly, Ford Motor Company announced plans to shift production at its Oakville, Ontario factory in Canada from electric sports vehicles to gas-powered pickup trucks. The news came shortly after General Motors announced it would trim down its forecast of EVs produced in 2024 by 50,000.The appearance at this stage is that both legacy automakers are worrying about overproducing against demand.
"After the pandemic, there was a huge exuberance around EVs, and I think a lot of the manufacturers thought that growth was going to continue," Arun Kumar, a partner and managing director in the automotive and industrial practice at AlixPartners, told the Times. "But the reality is that's not the case, and it's a smart move to make sure you're not losing market share in internal combustion."
What Ford's surprise canceling of EV production in favor of 'profitable' ICE vehicles means for industry: 'Thought that growth was going to continue'
Other companies and states are trying to find ways to promote buying electric vehicles to keep them cheaper and to avoid the issues associated with public charging stations.
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pvdogteam
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wonder will legacy manufacturers lean more toward hybrid and just let Tesla, Rivian and the Asian companies have the EV space?The demand for electric vehicles is not meeting the projected forecast from auto manufacturers, and Ford is one company cutting back on EV production in favor of internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles, according to The New York Times.
What's happening?
While the company still plans to make EVs more broadly, Ford Motor Company announced plans to shift production at its Oakville, Ontario factory in Canada from electric sports vehicles to gas-powered pickup trucks. The news came shortly after General Motors announced it would trim down its forecast of EVs produced in 2024 by 50,000.
The appearance at this stage is that both legacy automakers are worrying about overproducing against demand.
"After the pandemic, there was a huge exuberance around EVs, and I think a lot of the manufacturers thought that growth was going to continue," Arun Kumar, a partner and managing director in the automotive and industrial practice at AlixPartners, told the Times. "But the reality is that's not the case, and it's a smart move to make sure you're not losing market share in internal combustion."
What Ford's surprise canceling of EV production in favor of 'profitable' ICE vehicles means for industry: 'Thought that growth was going to continue'
Other companies and states are trying to find ways to promote buying electric vehicles to keep them cheaper and to avoid the issues associated with public charging stations.
buckwheat1911
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Have you tried the ASS feature? The upgrade was added to my car on Friday. I tried it yesterday.
pvdogteam
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My car got ASS also. I'm going to try it also, been scared to check it out
CEE DOG
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buckwheat1911
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I like the feature. I've been trying and it's pretty cool. I had the car come to me the other day while I was at Target. I had it come to me at work yesterday.
buckwheat1911
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lol It's free ASS for a month. I don't think that I will be subscribing to the monthly self-driving subscription. It will cost $99. The subscription includes the following...Y'all cars giving out ASS. Talking about Technology advancing
- Automated steering: Can steer in urban environments
- Traffic light and stop sign control: Can identify traffic lights and stop signs and automatically slow down or stop
- Summon: Can move your vehicle into and out of tight spaces using the Tesla app
- Smart Summon: Can navigate to you in a parking lot or other controlled environment
- Lane change: Can change lanes on multi-lane roads
- Navigate on Autopilot: Can navigate your vehicle
pvdogteam
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My son boought FSD with his first Tesla, he just upgraded to the 2024 Model 3 Performance with the white seats when they let him transfer FSD from his old Tesla so he has ASS all the time, that thing is nice.
MetroPhillyTiger
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How are the feds regulating autonomous driving vehicles?
buckwheat1911
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I'm not sure.
buckwheat1911
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Nice! I bet that thing is fast too. I tried the FSD the other day. I was a little nervous, but it held the road and slowed down when it needed to.
pvdogteam
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yes it is scary fast, think it may be quicker than my MYP
bernard
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On Monday, just hours after being sworn in as the 47th president of the United States, Donald Trump wasted no time signing a flurry of executive orders. One of these revokes a 2021 document signed by then-President Joe Biden that aimed to grow the sales of electric vehicles, to push them to 50-percent of new vehicle deliveries by the year 2030. But, this is just the tip of the iceberg; Trump’s got hybrid and electric vehicles squarely in his sights.
With a stroke of the pen, Trump has halted the distribution of money from a $5 billion fund intended to build EV charging stations. Additionally, the president’s actions here target a zero-emissions vehicle waiver that encourages states to clean up their fleets by 2035. Tax credits for electric vehicles are also potentially on the chopping block.
Additionally, there’s a rule requiring automakers to reduce vehicle emissions. It’s estimated that by 2032, car companies would have to sell between 30 and 56 percent electric vehicles to comply with these conditions, though the president is expected to instruct the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to tweak these requirements.
According to Trump’s executive order titled Unleashing American Energy, the United States will, “eliminate the ‘electric vehicle (EV) mandate’ and promote true consumer choice … by ensuring a level regulatory playing field for consumer choice in vehicles.” Additionally, this order requires that in certain situations, state emissions waivers limiting the sale of gasoline-powered vehicles be terminated. This clearly is a dig at California, which, back in December received a waiver from the EPA that, by 2035, allows the state to ban the sale of vehicles solely powered by gasoline, cars, and trucks with no sort of hybridization or electrification technology.
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With a stroke of the pen, Trump has halted the distribution of money from a $5 billion fund intended to build EV charging stations. Additionally, the president’s actions here target a zero-emissions vehicle waiver that encourages states to clean up their fleets by 2035. Tax credits for electric vehicles are also potentially on the chopping block.
Additionally, there’s a rule requiring automakers to reduce vehicle emissions. It’s estimated that by 2032, car companies would have to sell between 30 and 56 percent electric vehicles to comply with these conditions, though the president is expected to instruct the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to tweak these requirements.
According to Trump’s executive order titled Unleashing American Energy, the United States will, “eliminate the ‘electric vehicle (EV) mandate’ and promote true consumer choice … by ensuring a level regulatory playing field for consumer choice in vehicles.” Additionally, this order requires that in certain situations, state emissions waivers limiting the sale of gasoline-powered vehicles be terminated. This clearly is a dig at California, which, back in December received a waiver from the EPA that, by 2035, allows the state to ban the sale of vehicles solely powered by gasoline, cars, and trucks with no sort of hybridization or electrification technology.
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buckwheat1911
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Damn! We need those EV Charging stations. Mississippi barely has them.
bernard
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State Rankings: Electric Vehicles per Capita in the United States
By ZeroHedge - Aug 24, 2024, 12:00 PM CDT
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By ZeroHedge - Aug 24, 2024, 12:00 PM CDT
- California leads the nation in electric vehicle adoption, with over 1.1 million EVs and the highest per capita ownership.
- Washington, Hawaii, and Oregon follow California as EV adoption hotspots, while Mississippi and North Dakota lag behind.
- California's extensive charging infrastructure, with over 15,000 stations, supports its EV leadership.
State Rankings: Electric Vehicles per Capita in the United States | OilPrice.com
This data-driven analysis reveals the top U.S. states for electric vehicle adoption, highlighting California's dominance and the factors driving regional trends.
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bernard
THEE Realist
Ford Will Be Crippled by End of EV Tax Credit
Ford Motor Co. (NYSE: F) said its investment in electric vehicles (EVs) would reach $30 billion. However, new federal rules that will eliminate the EV tax credit, which is as much as $7,500 per vehicle, will hit the company hard. Industry experts say that Ford is more dependent on the tax credit to make money because it already posts a loss on each EV it sells. The same experts point out that it will be much less of a problem for industry leader Tesla Inc. (NASDAQ: TSLA).
One theory is that what is good for Tesla is bad for other EV makers, which are the legacy manufacturers. Ford’s stock is already down 7% in the past year, while the S&P 500 is 26% higher. Tesla’s stock is up 100% over the same period.
Ford loses money on every electric vehicle.
Earlier this year, analysts estimated that Ford lost $130,000 for each EV it sold. Tesla, which has positive margins, has about 50% of the U.S. EV market. Ford has about 9%, which is slightly lower than Hyundai/Kia and GM.
Ford also faces a market that is not growing very much. Adoption of EVs is hampered by concerns about range, number of chargers, cost to buy a new EV, and tire wear. The fact that the price of gasoline is at a relatively low $3 a gallon does not help.
Ford said in 2021 that it would invest $30 billion in its EV initiatives by 2025. It also said its annual EV production run rate would be 600,000 per year by 2023 and 2 million by 2026. Since then, it has considerably slowed its EV production and shut down some EV production facilities.
bernard
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Trump administration halts $5 billion EV charging program that benefited Tesla
The Trump administration’s war on electric cars continues with the halt of a national program that sends money to states to install EV charging equipment. It was the latest move by President Donald Trump to reverse Biden-era EV policies — even as those policies have personally enriched his top ally, Elon Musk.
According to a memo from the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA), the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program will be put on pause while it is retooled to align with the new administration’s priorities (those priorities being more gas guzzlers and fewer EVs). The agency said it is “immediately suspending” the approval of plans to deploy new EV chargers “for all fiscal years” and will no longer approve new funding requests until a new plan is implemented.
The FHWA said it aims to have updated guidance published by the spring, at which point it will start accepting public comment. After the comment period is closed, it will issue revised guidance that incorporates its responses to public comment.
The agency is also giving leeway to those states (most of which are Republican-run) that have declined to spend federal funds already received under NEVI.
“Since FHWA is suspending the existing State plans, States will be held harmless for not implementing their existing plans,” Emily Biondi, associate administrator at the agency, writes in the memo to state transportation officials. “Until new guidance is issued, reimbursement of existing obligations will be allowed in order to not disrupt current financial commitments.”
Since his election, Trump has vowed to reverse many of his predecessor’s pro-EV policies, including the federal EV tax credit and new tailpipe emission rules that would require automakers to produce more EVs. The NEVI program, in particular, was often criticized by Republicans as wasteful, especially after The Washington Post reported in March 2024 that only seven charging stations with 38 ports had been opened under the program.
NEVI may have gotten off to a slow start, but its most recent report for the fourth quarter of 2024 showed improved progress. According to the Q4 update, there are 126 public EV charging ports in operation across 31 NEVI stations in nine states, an 83 percent increase in open NEVI ports over the previous quarter. (In Q3, there were 69 public charging ports in operation across 17 NEVI stations in eight states.)