Should Coe be taking to task for throwing a game?


I honestly don't think it will come down to a coin toss. SU has Alcorn and GSU. ASU has GSU and AAMU. AAMU has ASU and Alcorn. Alcorn has SU and AAMU. UAPB has ASU.

All of the teams mentioned above are still in the hunt and over the next 4 weeks, one team will be eliminated each week. To think UAPB, SU, and ASU will all run the table is almost impossible.

If they do and ASU decides to sit starters and the coin is tossed, then UAPB, SU, ASU, and the SWAC office deserves whatever they get. Why, because they should have handled the business of making sure all games are played. Hopefully we all can learn something from this so that next year will run a little bit smoother.
 
JR said:
Exactly.
I am not going to cry one bit if PB makes it the SCG. If they do good for them. The council of Presidents/SWAC office had no nads to make the PB and SU game be played and also allowed other SWAC games not to be played. Heck if everybody had been made to play all the 9 games like the SWAC mandate then the UAPB vs Bama State game may not even matter to either team. That game doesn't count for ASU does it? Obviously not if Coe plans to rest his starters if Bama State has already won the East. The only reason that game had to be played is for PB's sake. They need 7 SWAC games. Since SU and Alcorn got out of playing them. I am one Jag who actually thinks our arrogance got us in this position. We could have played a week before Classic. Or the week after like Bama State is doing.
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You shole is right JR
 



Diesel said:
What the hell is all this talk about? Pine Bluff and SU haven't won out, so let's just wait and see what the hell happens first. We put the cart in front of the horse too much here. We haven't beaten Alcorn in years and PB aint gauranteed to win out. Alabama State may not beat A&M, so what the hell are jumping up and down for.

Nobody wanted to give an inch to make the SU-PB game happen, so now this is the price someone may have to pay. Then, so be it. We didn't want to play the week before Bayou Classic, then we will not play after it either.

Tough titty.
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SWAC schedule for the week of 11/6/04 and 11/13/04:

Nov. 06 Grambling State * Alabama State Grambling, LA
Jackson State * Alabama A&M Jackson, MS
Miss. Valley State * Alcorn State Itta Bena, MS
Prairie View A&M * Ark.-Pine Bluff Pine Bluff, AR
Southern OPEN
Texas Southern OPEN

Nov. 13 Alabama A&M * Alcorn State Huntsville, AL
Alabama State * Miss. Valley State Montgomery, AL
Ark. Pine Bluff * OPEN
Savannah State Grambling State Savannah, GA
Miss. Valley State * Alabama State Montgomery, AL
Prairie View A&M Jackson State Prairie View, TX
Southern * Texas Southern Baton Rouge, LA

Southern and Texas Southern could have played on 11/6/04 and Southern and Pine Bluff could have played on 11/13/04. Texas Southern could have had 11/13/04 as an open date.

I am thinking from off the top of my head. I guess it could have worked :confused:
 
Apparently, lost in this seemingly endless and useless thread and on the SU faithful... is the fact that ASU is loaded. Playing our second team guys is in no way "throwing a game." These guys may be green when it comes to SWAC play but the talent is there. Given PT, many of these guys would be the starters, it's just there's proven talent in front of them. Ask JSU what they think of Jay Peck. The O & D-line is quality 2 to 3 guys deep. Ya'll didn't believe when we tried to tell you LC was building a powerhouse before the idiot administrators that be, did their dirt. :redhot:
That said...Coe is doing the smart thing. The PB game is basically an exhibition, rest your starters for potentially the SCG and see what your second, even third teamers can do. :ebrow:
 
Blackbear said:
That will be decided on Oct 30 when ASU meets AAMU. The winner of THAT game will have the #1 tiebreaker.

1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.

Common opponents will NOT be a factor.
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Someone corrected me on that already...
 
FAB5 said:
Apparently, lost in this seemingly endless and useless thread and on the SU faithful... is the fact that ASU is loaded. Playing our second team guys is in no way "throwing a game." These guys may be green when it comes to SWAC play but the talent is there. Given PT, many of these guys would be the starters, it's just there's proven talent in front of them. Ask JSU what they think of Jay Peck. The O & D-line is quality 2 to 3 guys deep. Ya'll didn't believe when we tried to tell you LC was building a powerhouse before the idiot administrators that be, did their dirt. :redhot:
That said...Coe is doing the smart thing. The PB game is basically an exhibition, rest your starters for potentially the SCG and see what your second, even third teamers can do. :ebrow:
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All these threads can be summed up in these ^^^^ two words.
 
C-LeB28 said:
Bluedog,

What if the shoe is on the other foot? What if Pete had the option to play a game that doesn't matter whether the Jaguars won or lost that the SWAC West would still be awarded to Southern if he could play his reserves?

I can just invision you and your comments...

"We are your SUperiors"
"It is our perrogative to play who we want we are SOUTHERN"

DO YOU REALLY WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH PETE IF THE SWAC WEST WAS ALREADY IN THE BAG AND HE MADE THE COMMENT THAT COE MADE?

Coe isn't saying he is throwing the game. Point out to me where he says that.
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What I want is for you to answer the question and not divert by asnwering my question with a question. Do you really want me to think that you believe a second string squad of ASU would beat the entire first string of UAPB?
 
I hope Coe and his 1st string bring a BBQ grill, keg of Bud Light, and as many blunts and a DJ to the game and sit back and have an old fashion SIDELINE Party. I mean I wouldn't care if they look like the bad news bears. I hope the QB throws every pass to the nearst DB. I hope the make T-Shirts that say FSU (F*## SU). :lmao:
 
Da_Sperm said:
I hope Coe and his 1st string bring a BBQ grill, keg of Bud Light, and as many blunts and a DJ to the game and sit back and have an old fashion SIDELINE Party. I mean I wouldn't care if they look like the bad news bears. I hope the QB throws every pass to the nearst DB. I hope the make T-Shirts that say FSU (F*## SU). :lmao:
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Blunts?
 
Blackbear said:
That will be decided on Oct 30 when ASU meets AAMU. The winner of THAT game will have the #1 tiebreaker.

1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.

Common opponents will NOT be a factor.
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Question? What do you guys think? Should Southern Be Worried? U guys talk like you have no faith in rest if SWAC to derail the rushing bull (ASU).
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IWJNSU said:
SWAC schedule for the week of 11/6/04 and 11/13/04:

Nov. 06 Grambling State * Alabama State Grambling, LA
Jackson State * Alabama A&M Jackson, MS
Miss. Valley State * Alcorn State Itta Bena, MS
Prairie View A&M * Ark.-Pine Bluff Pine Bluff, AR
Southern OPEN
Texas Southern OPEN

Nov. 13 Alabama A&M * Alcorn State Huntsville, AL
Alabama State * Miss. Valley State Montgomery, AL
Ark. Pine Bluff * OPEN
Savannah State Grambling State Savannah, GA
Miss. Valley State * Alabama State Montgomery, AL
Prairie View A&M Jackson State Prairie View, TX
Southern * Texas Southern Baton Rouge, LA

Southern and Texas Southern could have played on 11/6/04 and Southern and Pine Bluff could have played on 11/13/04. Texas Southern could have had 11/13/04 as an open date.

I am thinking from off the top of my head. I guess it could have worked :confused:
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Um that is one of the options that was offer, as a matter of fact S.U. contacted TSU/PV about this and both schools agreed to switch to help solve it, UAPB said no because they insisted on playing before the BC.

This is fact and was discuss on this board when it was offer, but as usual people choose to have selective memory.
 
bluedog said:
Um that is one of the options that was offer, as a matter of fact S.U. contacted TSU/PV about this and both schools agreed to switch to help solve it, UAPB said no because they insisted on playing before the BC.

This is fact and was discuss on this board when it was offer, but as usual people choose to have selective memory.
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Thank you. Was about to say this myself. Everybody wants to pin this on SU and they defintely have some fault in it, but UAPB definitely could have done more on their side of things too.

I don't think any of this is gonna matter anyway. I'm telling you now that SU will win out and APB won't.
 
bluedog said:
Um that is one of the options that was offer, as a matter of fact S.U. contacted TSU/PV about this and both schools agreed to switch to help solve it, UAPB said no because they insisted on playing before the BC.

This is fact and was discuss on this board when it was offer, but as usual people choose to have selective memory.
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At that time, UAPB had Paul Quinn scheduled to play on Nov. 13th and Southern on Oct. 2nd. After the deal didn't fall through, UAPB moved Paul Quinn to Oct. 2nd and Nov. 13th became OPEN. One could argue that UAPB could have ask Paul Quinn to move to Oct. 13th, but that would only accomidate SU, not really UAPB.

UAPB will beat JSU and PV, and the pressure will be on SU to beat GSU in the BC. If SU wins, the UAPB has to go out and beat ASU. But all this discussion about UAPB make just distract SU from their current opponent this weekend.
 
You really want to solve this problem. IF SU and PB are tied for first after the Bayou Classic and Alabama State has clinched the Eastern Division, then ASU and PB playing is mute.

Let SU and PB tie it up on December 4th in Memphis or PB for all the marbles: the championship of the Western Division, who was right and who was wrong, and anything else you want to put on it. The winner gets to drag his broken and bruised behind to Birmingham to play ASU and it would serve either of the winners right.

That is the solution.
 
Diesel said:
You really want to solve this problem. IF SU and PB are tied for first after the Bayou Classic and Alabama State has clinched the Eastern Division, then ASU and PB playing is mute.

Let SU and PB tie it up on December 4th in Memphis or PB for all the marbles: the championship of the Western Division, who was right and who was wrong, and anything else you want to put on it. The winner gets to drag his broken and bruised behind to Birmingham to play ASU and it would serve either of the winners right.

That is the solution.
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If not for the limit of games alloted played by su (12) this would be a great and most logical solution.
 
Southern already has the maxumium number of games scheduled, so SU can't schedule another game.

From the information I got, Southern tried many different things to get this game in, but it seemed that Pine Bluff priorities were 1) the Classic 2) Paul Quinn and it seems they were dead set on forcing us to play Nov. 20. So they would not cooperate with anything else. Pine Bluff moved thier game with Paul Quinn and Texas Southern agreed to swap, but Pine Bluff wouldn't cooperate. That's when Southern finally said "F*** 'em"

We got the revenue from an extra home game, they lost the revenue of a big home game. I'll get over it if we don't go to Birminghame (I don't like Birmingham anyway)
 
As I stated before the 9 game schedule and the SCG would create this kind of excitement. What took so long to understand the two divisions, 9 game SWAC schedule and the SCG would become this exciting.

Getting to the SCG is a challenge and the next few weeks will be the most exciting in SWAC history.

The MCC on Oct 30 will feature the two top teams in the Eastern Division going head to head for a spot in the SCG. ESPN may try to buy this game out.
 
Da_Sperm said:
At that time, UAPB had Paul Quinn scheduled to play on Nov. 13th and Southern on Oct. 2nd. After the deal didn't fall through, UAPB moved Paul Quinn to Oct. 2nd and Nov. 13th became OPEN. One could argue that UAPB could have ask Paul Quinn to move to Oct. 13th, but that would only accomidate SU, not really UAPB.
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Typical loser mentality. How would it accomdate S.U. when it was a home game for UAPB? All it proves is that UAPB didn't really want to play S.U. because of past failures and all this talk about about S.U. being the one to avoid UAPB is nothing more then what anybody with a teabag amount of sense already knew.....crap!!

Weren't you one of those leading the cursade "SAVE THE SWAC" play the game? As usual given the time Sperm you will put your foot in your mouth by eventually telling the truth.

Seems to me you are saying that if UAPB would have played "S.U. AT HOME" by moving or dropping a "D2 GAME" it would have accomidated S.U. because it was a sure win.
 
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