Should Coe be taking to task for throwing a game?


mighty hornet said:
Now you're crying cause it's a chance that karma might come back to bite SU right in the arse!!!

If you wanna be mad with something, Be mad about that!!!!
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You're clowning...but wouldn't it be karma for Bama State to drop one to Pine Bluff on Dec. 4, allowing them to get in the SCG, and they peterroll y'all in the SCG the following week (granted Bama State wins the East and Pine Bluff wins the coin toss/tiebreaker/tribal council)... Now that's karma...

However, that's specualation and we must let the games play out...
 
Really, ya'll are killing me. It all boils down to SU should have played UAPB. It aint Vowells fault, the council of pres., its the institutions fault. If Coe plays me and my torn up knees, MH at QB, Deuce at RB, MAC at WR, and the rest of the Hornets Nest in the game on Dec 4 so be it. If things end up in our favor and a Black College National Title is on the line - so what - and who is to say that a line up of Me, MH, Deuce, MAC, Stripes, and Fab couldnt beat PB anyway :)
 



thedesr said:
This is not a Coach Coe or ASU problem. If this happens he is doing exactly what any smart coach would do in preparing his team to win the SCG. Winning the SWAC is what is important. We shouldn't be him a coward because every coach in the league would do the same.... a meaningless game to sit his starters or play them for a quarter and then sitting them.
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Thank you thedesr.
:tup:


I'm still shaking my head that ANYBODY would even pretend like Coe is doing something that ANY other coach with walking around sense wouldn't do.

:smh:
 
majiksity said:
If Coe plays me and my torn up knees, MH at QB, Deuce at RB, MAC at WR, and the rest of the Hornets Nest in the game on Dec 4 so be it. If things end up in our favor and a Black College National Title is on the line - so what - and who is to say that a line up of Me, MH, Deuce, MAC, Stripes, and Fab couldnt beat PB anyway :)
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:lol::lol::lol:
:lol::lol::lol:

This aint what you want PB.

I'll be like Dante Culpepper on yall arse.
:lol:
 
This is one Jag that believes we made our bed and we will have to sleep in it. SU is the defending SWAC football champs, and we should remain champs until beaten. If SU go undefeated in the conference play we should play in SCG. Only in the SWAC someone that has not won it on the field can be champion. Therefore, in the event UAPB chosen over a undefeated SU team to represent the West whoever wins the SCG won't feel like a true champion. That is why I believe Coe is just blowing spoke. Being the good coach I think Coe is he want settle the score with SU. The season not over and I believe it will work it way out and will not come to a tie in the West. LET US PRAY!
 
Re: Should Coe be taken to task for throwing a game?

bluedog said:
Now I know that some of you if not all agree with this scenario, but the facts of the matter is if it pans out coach Coe would being intenionally throwing a game. A clear violation of Ncaa rules/law, not to mention the ultimate in cowardness not to want face and defeat the team that has own you every time you step to the plate in a game that meant something. So why shouldn't he be taking to task for it.
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Blue,

Do you really, really, really think that Bama State is afraid of playing Southern in the SCG?...When they really have no control over who they play in the West in the first place? Teams that make it to the SCG don't really care who they play against. They just want to get there. If anything, Bama State would probably want to play you considering how the last game earlier this season went down.

I guess the only thing you can hope for now is that Bama State be in a position where a win against UAPB is needed if they are even going to go to the SCG.
 
PAPAJAG said:
This is one Jag that believes we made our bed and we will have to sleep in it. SU is the defending SWAC football champs, and we should remain champs until beaten. If SU go undefeated in the conference play we should play in SCG. Only in the SWAC someone that has not won it on the field can be champion. Therefore, in the event UAPB chosen over a undefeated SU team to represent the West whoever wins the SCG won't feel like a true champion. That is why I believe Coe is just blowing spoke. Being the good coach I think Coe is he want settle the score with SU. The season not over and I believe it will work it way out and will come to a tie in the West. LET US PRAY!
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yeah, what he said....and he does bring up a good point. What if Bama State has a chip on its shoulder from the Miracle in Montgomery and wants no one but SU in the SCG? hmmmm. But this is the SWAC and strange things happen.

hey Mighty Hornet, would y'all run a pake funt against UAPB :snicker: you know that's the trendy trick play in the SWAC :topic:
 
majiksity said:
Really, ya'll are killing me. It all boils down to SU should have played UAPB. It aint Vowells fault, the council of pres., its the institutions fault. If Coe plays me and my torn up knees, MH at QB, Deuce at RB, MAC at WR, and the rest of the Hornets Nest in the game on Dec 4 so be it. If things end up in our favor and a Black College National Title is on the line - so what - and who is to say that a line up of Me, MH, Deuce, MAC, Stripes, and Fab couldnt beat PB anyway :)
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God knows Randy Moss and Keyshawn don't have nothing me :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
Whatever the final outcome is, the SWAC office is going to mess this one up for SU and PB. I believe someone is going to get paid under the table for this one. :eek: :eek:
 
Bluedog, thanks for putting some truth on that bulls***t some are talking over here, this is not the smack board. First, no one is scared to play anyone, even PV in thier worst years were not scared of anyone. SU made an effort to play Pine Bluff (may not a strong enough one). THE GAME WAS SCHEDULED TO BE PLAYED IN PINE BLUFF!!!!! Pine Bluff/the promoter asked us to move it to Sept. 25 and to play in St. Louis instead of in PINE BLUFF. Southern tried to accomidate them. But the promoter did not want to pay the extra expenses Southern wanted for going to St. Louis instead of Pine Bluff. So Southern point of view then was if they aren't gonna pay, we will just play it in Pine Bluff. Well (from my understanding, and IMHO where the F*** U* by the SWAC office started) the promoter went to AAMU and asked them to come instead effectively RESCHEDULING A SWAC WEST GAME DATE WITH THEM. AAMU should have stayed out of it. PINE BLUFF had a choice, play SU in Pine Bluff (SWAC WEST GAME) or go play in the classic (and try to reschedule the game, KNOWING SU WAS NOT GOING TO AGREE TO Nov. 13) Well, (and I am being neutral here) Pine Bluff went with thier classic (and I don't blame them), they play in it every year, and I understand thier choice. But thinking the SWAC was gonna force SU to play on NOV. 13. As history has shown, they SWAC office ain't got enough juice to make Southern do anything. So there is lots of blame to go around.

Final Results
- Pine Bluff got thier classic (and the money)
- AAMU got into a classic at the last minute (Got thier arse kicked though)
- Promoter got off cheap (He should know its gonna take more to get SU, JSU, or Grambling to come than Kentucky State or (evidently AAMU).
- SU got another home game, (S. Dakota State, and we got our arse kicked, but we made money)
- SU-Pine Bluff both earned money, but are getting 25 cents more than what they barganed for (coin flip to break the tie)
 
Hey MAC dont trip, I have 2 years of eligibility left, I'll mess around and register for a class in the morning and start working out - the return of Ronnie Lott could soon be happening :eek: :mrt:
 
Re: Should Coe be taken to task for throwing a game?

SAME OLD G said:
Blue,

Do you really, really, really think that Bama State is afraid of playing Southern in the SCG?...When they really have no control over who they play in the West in the first place? Teams that make it to the SCG don't really care who they play against. They just want to get there. If anything, Bama State would probably want to play you considering how the last game earlier this season went down.

I guess the only thing you can hope for now is that Bama State be in a position where a win against UAPB is needed if they are even going to go to the SCG.
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I can only go by what was quoted. Last year he said that he couldn't wait to face us in the SCG. I believed then he was a coach looking for revenge and showing courage, So why wouldn't I believe what he's saying now and that he'd be trying to take the easy way out if he had it?

Also the fact that he stated the reason for moving the game to montgomery this year is because he couldn't beat us in Mobile or Birmingham and that he felt he stood a better chance there than at home shows that "Yes" he fears Pete Richardson.
 
Oh, I almost forgot. As far as Coe not playing his starters, that is his choice as a coach, if his fans, AD, and administration put up with it, and his players have no more pride than that, that's thier choice. But is sure kicks a big hole in the integrity of the whole thing. For a leauge game to mean what it should, both teams should be playing at thier best. SU beat ASU's first string, looks like Pine Bluff will get the same credit for beating thier second string. But who said life is fair.
 
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bluedog said:
Also the fact that he stated the reason for moving the game to montgomery this year is because he couldn't beat us in Mobile or Birmingham and that he felt he stood a better chance there than at home shows that "Yes" he fears Pete Richardson.
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If I was crass, I would ask you to show that article

but since I know you're lying, I won't even bother to ask you to show it

and Coe has NEVER played SU in Mobile, so why would he say "he couldn't beat you in Mobile"

:lmao::lmao:

Yall REALLY, REALLY grasping at anything now. It's only mid October and the desperation is soooooo obvious!

But the fact remains, SU has NOBODY to blame but yourselves. You simply could have played PB and NOTHING else would matter with ANY other teams.
But, nooooooooo, yall felt that week off before the BC was more important.

made bed....... now lay in it!
 
Lewis said:
But is sure kicks a big hole in the integrity of the whole thing. For a leauge game to mean what it should, both teams should be playing at thier best.
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:smh:
since you're on the "integrity" kick, are you gonna mention anything about that lil open date SU and PB had.
Forget all about St. Louis. You had a COMMON open date during the season.
 



MH, my boy you beat me to it on that "integrity" statement - how dare he even slang that ness out there like that. Especially under the circumstances of what we are discussing - nigrah please.
 
Coe needs to ask for a running clock....LOL

If he is already going to Bham, why waste those kids time. I would play the third string to get them ready for next year. I would see how my freshman kicker and punter performs in a real game...yeah, they may get like 5 punts blocks but it will be a learning experience....kekekekeke
 
Well, check this "WHAT IF". What if UAPB beats JSU and PV and SU beats Alcorn, TxSU but loses to Grambling. That would put UAPB in the SCG no matter what the outcome of the ASU game.

Both ASU and UAPB can play their reserves.
 
Da_Sperm said:
Well, check this "WHAT IF". What if UAPB beats JSU and PV and SU beats Alcorn, TxSU but loses to Grambling. That would put UAPB in the SCG no matter what the outcome of the ASU game.

Both ASU and UAPB can play their reserves.
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Thats a good point. And it is very possible that it will happen...especially that part about SU losing to Greatness.

*snicker* :D
 
mighty hornet said:
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since you're on the "integrity" kick, are you gonna mention anything about that lil open date SU and PB had.
Forget all about St. Louis. You had a COMMON open date during the season.
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We had a date in Sept. THAT WAS SCHEDULED!!!! So it is easy to say forget about the part of the facts that you don't want to deal with.
<br>But since you wanna talk isht. Tell me why yall chose Dec. 4 to play Pine Bluff, when both Ala State and Pine Bluff HAVE AN OPEN DATE THIS WEEK. Is it that Ala State wanted an OPEN Date before it's big rivaly game (like AAMU has). A damn hurricane can't get yall to give up your open date. Hypocrite.
 
Aint no hyprocracy in it. The game does not count for us per conference guidelines. Now had this game been designated as a one that would count in the standings of course there would have been nothing said by Coe about not wanting to play this game. But since it is of no benefit to us in regards to conference standings, why should we play it?

You can spin this anyway you want to, bottom line is WE are playing the game and we would have played the game if Ivan had not come thru...You are not playing a divisional opponent - be it in tha Lou, in Little Rock, in Pine Bluff - hell not even in Baton Rouge...WE are playing it in Dec - you are playing it in 2005 - I guess. WE are going to play with starters (maybe), reserves (more than likely), HornetNest Best (strong possibility lol) - you are not playing with anyone....WE are playing you are not, it doesnt get much simpler than that - and you can bioatch and moan about a possible tainted championship or whatever...WE ARE PLAYING YOU ARE NOT - God dont like ugly aint u never heard that before :shame:

As I said earlier, be gone with all this nonsense.
 
Bluedog,

If it was indeed the case that Coach Coe is deliberately throwing a conference game or any game for that matter that he should be taken to task and sanctions should be made to all parties involved. But, I think it is a bit presumptuous to state that because a coach states that he would play his back ups in a game is an indication that he is deliberately throwing game. I think you would have to have much more evidence than just playing your back-ups in a game. But, like it has been said it is not against SWAC or NCAA policies (rules and/or bylaws) for a coach to sit his starters to prevent injuries.
 
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