Should Coe be taking to task for throwing a game?


majiksity, well if it doesn't count, instead of messing up you open week before the SCG, yall could have played this Sat and done the same thing, Sit your started down and saved them and let your younger players get some experience. Who knows, that kid on your second team you would have played this Sat. may be needed next week when one of them AAMU defenders knocks the crap out of one of your starters.

<br>P.S. Just to keep the record str8, I have never "bioatch and moan" about any of this. I have participated in discussing some of the issues, but if it's a coin flip, this flip the damn coin. I know one thing, Pine Bluff ain't gonna punk SU into playing on a date we already told them we ain't playing on, and the SWAC office ain't gonna make us. That ain't smack, that's FACT. If we don't make it to Birminham this year, well, we been there before. We got a couple of Trophies to show for it. We will be alright.
 
The truth of the matter is that both SU and UAPB have a role in this (as well as the conference office, but there are enough posts/rants on the ineptitude of those in charge so I won't comment), and if somebody loses on a coin flip, that school brought that on itself. As far as ASU is concerned, it's a matter of what's more important to it, possibly playing for the Black College Championship or just being content playing for the SWAC title. Personally (and this is my opinion alone), I think each school should try its best to win every game on the schedule, but I can also see the logic in ASU resting its starters (especially if the West is decided by then and a school such as Southern would be coming into the championship game with two weeks off and a light November schedule). But it's far too early to be worried about these things. SU and UAPB have to play out their respective schedules before the UAPB/ASU game becomes relevant.
 



Lewis: Call Pete and tell him he could have done the same thing....Play your back ups the week before the Bayou and rest your starters - I mean at least for you the game would have counted, it doesnt for us....You cant try to diminish what the decision of ASU is, has been, or might on this when the exact same terms apply to you.


Now as for this crap about the SWAC office aint gonna tell you what to do - BOUNCE. There are rules set for EVERYONE, if you are gonna be a renegade by all means be a fa real renegade and go it alone. Now I used the word diminish earlier and let me say I am not one to diminish the many contributions of SU to this conference - ALL OF THE SCHOOLS THAT COMPRISE THE CONFERENCE MAKE OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS ON A DAILY AND YEARLY BASIS. With that said, aint one pony gonna stop a show. If you feel you are too good, if you feel like you are too large - please be gone.

See the next thing that will come out is that the SWAC is holding SU back from being included in the BCS. And I really would hate to see that happen to you.

Good luck to SU the rest of the year - and hey I know someone got a contact around the Burbon St area that can get somebody to cook up a root to put on PB for ya'll the rest of the season and render them helpless.
 
SWAC= SILLY WACK ASS CONFERENCE. SU and PB should have played the football game. Question, would the SEC let LSU Drop OLE MISS to play USC?
WOW?????????? This is sad!
 
Jafus (Thinker) said:
Bluedog,

If it was indeed the case that Coach Coe is deliberately throwing a conference game or any game for that matter that he should be taken to task and sanctions should be made to all parties involved. But, I think it is a bit presumptuous to state that because a coach states that he would play his back ups in a game is an indication that he is deliberately throwing game. I think you would have to have much more evidence than just playing your back-ups in a game. But, like it has been said it is not against SWAC or NCAA policies (rules and/or bylaws) for a coach to sit his starters to prevent injuries.
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Great response Jafus, and I must admit that I didn't take the time to read the other post since I pose this question. But instead of speculation I would like to see printed facts to support that position.

Like I said, its not like putting in your scrubs in a blow-out.
 
This aint nothing but a case of the chickens come home to roost.

SU simply has NOBODY to blame but themselves. You got out of that game with PB and now it's coming back to haunt you. (All of those high-horse comments yall made a couple of months ago when yall got out of the PB are still here on TSPN)

and the timing of this post aint fooling me at all. Coe made those comments last week. BEFORE the PB/Gram game. But here come this crying lil topic AFTER the PB/Gram game :snicker:

now that PB has won that, they only have games with 1-win JSU and 2-win PV left.
SU sees ASU as the last chance to beat PB.
You can't piss on my head and think you'll convince me it's rain. :smh:

as for this going to the NCAA, yall would look like some idiots doing that.
"Hey NCAA, would you please tell Coe to play his starters the whole game, so they can beat UAPB and help us get to the SCG"



sorry SU, but you had your own chance to play PB yourself. But, again, you felt it was more important to be ready for the BC.

now yall wanna belly ache because Coe is saying that its more important to be ready for a championship game than a regular season game.

I REFUSE to believe you SU people are this blinded
 
mighty hornet said:
This aint nothing but a case of the chickens come home to roost.

SU simply has NOBODY to blame but themselves. You got out of that game with PB and now it's coming back to haunt you. (All of those high-horse comments yall made a couple of months ago when yall got out of the PB are still here on TSPN)

and the timing of this post aint fooling me at all. Coe made those comments last week. BEFORE the PB/Gram game. But here come this crying lil topic AFTER the PB/Gram game :snicker:

now that PB has won that, they only have games with 1-win JSU and 2-win PV left.
SU sees ASU as the last chance to beat PB.
You can't piss on my head and think you'll convince me it's rain. :smh:

as for this going to the NCAA, yall would look like some idiots doing that.
"Hey NCAA, would you please tell Coe to play his starters the whole game, so they can beat UAPB and help us get to the SCG"



sorry SU, but you had your own chance to play PB yourself. But, again, you felt it was more important to be ready for the BC.

now yall wanna belly ache because Coe is saying that its more important to be ready for a championship game than a regular season game.

I REFUSE to believe you SU people are this blinded
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Thank You!!!!!!!!!! :wavey:
 
Bluedog,

What if the shoe is on the other foot? What if Pete had the option to play a game that doesn't matter whether the Jaguars won or lost that the SWAC West would still be awarded to Southern if he could play his reserves?

I can just invision you and your comments...

"We are your SUperiors"
"It is our perrogative to play who we want we are SOUTHERN"

DO YOU REALLY WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH PETE IF THE SWAC WEST WAS ALREADY IN THE BAG AND HE MADE THE COMMENT THAT COE MADE?

Coe isn't saying he is throwing the game. Point out to me where he says that.
 
what if he plays his starters for 1 series and gives up a long touchdown? He then yanks his starters and puts his backups in and they only lose 7-0.....is he throwing the game then?
 
This is wild. mighty hornet hit it dead on the head in his last post. AFTER PB beat Gram, it's pretty apparent that PB's remaining schedule is pretty easy (Damn you, Bell) and they should win out. So SU has ZERO margin for error just to get to a coin toss. And like it or not, all of this could have beeen avoided simply by SU and PB playing each other. And for all the reasons, rationionalizations and excuses given, SU chose not to play the game. There were reasonable alternatives. And it doesn't compare to Bama State chosing the 12/4 date rather than playing PB during the mutual bye week. They had a reasonable alternative and selected the 12/4 date. It was their choice. They didn't scrap the game altogether.

It would appear to me that SU fan really need to become AAMU and Gram fans. Hope that Bama State needs to win on 12/4, so Coe won't sit his starters. Otherwise, "call it in the air."

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Heads or Tails??? (assuming SU runs the table, too)
 
man yall cats (jags) are something else...
i never that i would hear yall talk in such cowardly fashion. :smh:

i thought the "cringer" turns into "battlecat" not the other way around... :scared:
you guys are the SADDEST... pure-dee SAD! :smh:

why waste time talking about something that you know could have been a non-issue had you not been so trigger-happy and arrogant. Yeah i said it -- hell, and this has been said before to... you made your bed, lie in it.

night-night...... :sleeping:

RIGHT ON TO THE REAL, DEATH TO THE FAKERS! :D
 
Lewis said:
Well (from my understanding, and IMHO where the F*** U* by the SWAC office started) the promoter went to AAMU and asked them to come instead effectively RESCHEDULING A SWAC WEST GAME DATE WITH THEM. AAMU should have stayed out of it. PINE BLUFF had a choice, play SU in Pine Bluff (SWAC WEST GAME) or go play in the classic (and try to reschedule the game, KNOWING SU WAS NOT GOING TO AGREE TO Nov. 13) Well, (and I am being neutral here) Pine Bluff went with thier classic (and I don't blame them), they play in it every year, and I understand thier choice. But thinking the SWAC was gonna force SU to play on NOV. 13. As history has shown, they SWAC office ain't got enough juice to make Southern do anything. So there is lots of blame to go around.

Final Results
- Pine Bluff got thier classic (and the money)
- AAMU got into a classic at the last minute (Got thier arse kicked though)
- Promoter got off cheap (He should know its gonna take more to get SU, JSU, or Grambling to come than Kentucky State or (evidently AAMU).
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Lewis,

I know you go to bed each night with hate on your heart for AAMU, but you can go straight to h*#&! The bottom line is still that APB is in your division, and y'all should have played them. You "bought" your way out of it, and got your arses kicked by some rabbits, so you could have saved that little dig you tried to make at us. UAPB needed an apponent for the game and we accepted. We play them every year, and unlike you, don't try to slither out of games that we're scheduled to play. Like someone said, this will come back to bite you in your haughty, Bama-hatin' arse, and it will be no one's fault but SU's. Plain and simple!
 
C-LeB28 said:
Bluedog,

What if the shoe is on the other foot? What if Pete had the option to play a game that doesn't matter whether the Jaguars won or lost that the SWAC West would still be awarded to Southern if he could play his reserves?
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SU fans, players and coaches would want to win ALL games leading up to the championship because WE WANT TO BE BCF CHAMPS TOO!!
 



What the hell is all this talk about? Pine Bluff and SU haven't won out, so let's just wait and see what the hell happens first. We put the cart in front of the horse too much here. We haven't beaten Alcorn in years and PB aint gauranteed to win out. Alabama State may not beat A&M, so what the hell are jumping up and down for.

Nobody wanted to give an inch to make the SU-PB game happen, so now this is the price someone may have to pay. Then, so be it. We didn't want to play the week before Bayou Classic, then we will not play after it either.

Tough titty.
 
It would appear to me that SU fan really need to become AAMU and Gram fans. Hope that Bama State needs to win on 12/4, so Coe won't sit his starters. Otherwise, "call it in the air."
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I would like someone here to give me ONE scenario where ASU would have to beat APB in a non-conference game (for them) on 12/4. :confused:

I'll help you. There is none. :nod:

And the only way they would WANT to beat APB (and use their starters to do it) is if there is a complete collapse for ASU and they want to win to end the season on a high note.

Hope that paycheck that SU got for that jackwabbit azzwhuppin was worth it.

:jump:
 
Blackbear said:
I would like someone here to give me ONE scenario where ASU would have to beat APB in a non-conference game (for them) on 12/4. :confused:
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If you are tied overall with another team, such as AAMU and it came down to "common opponents".
 
Oh..and just to add....

If it was up to Charlie Coe, there would be NO ASU/APB game on 12/4. This game was agreed to by the ASU AD (a former SWAC compliance officer) and APB and the SWAC over the objections of Coach Coe.

Its not a matter of being scared, or a matter of pride...its a matter of having your priorities straight. The SWAC Championship is the TOP priority....followed closely by the TDC.

APB?

Around 5-6 on the priority list.
 
but jag4life,
The first tiebreaker is head to head competition.

And while you SU folks concentrating on what Coe and Bama State would do on Dec. 4, do yall realize how huge that game with Alcorn is this wknd??

If you win, you continue. But at the same time, it would give Alcorn 2 losses. With one loss already to Bama State, it would definitely lessen the likelihood of a 3 way tie in the East.
Meaning, it would lessen the likelihood that the ASU/PB game would have any bearing on the East whatsoever.
 
Sperm you are right...I guess the only other reason would be a 3-way tie.

MH,
Us fans can concentrate on any game we want to since we don't actually play the game. I can talk about next season if I want to...it has no bearing on if we win this week or not.
 
Diesel said:
What the hell is all this talk about? Pine Bluff and SU haven't won out, so let's just wait and see what the hell happens first. We put the cart in front of the horse too much here. We haven't beaten Alcorn in years and PB aint gauranteed to win out. Alabama State may not beat A&M, so what the hell are jumping up and down for.

Nobody wanted to give an inch to make the SU-PB game happen, so now this is the price someone may have to pay. Then, so be it. We didn't want to play the week before Bayou Classic, then we will not play after it either.

Tough titty.
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Exactly.
I am not going to cry one bit if PB makes it the SCG. If they do good for them. The council of Presidents/SWAC office had no nads to make the PB and SU game be played and also allowed other SWAC games not to be played. Heck if everybody had been made to play all the 9 games like the SWAC mandate then the UAPB vs Bama State game may not even matter to either team. That game doesn't count for ASU does it? Obviously not if Coe plans to rest his starters if Bama State has already won the East. The only reason that game had to be played is for PB's sake. They need 7 SWAC games. Since SU and Alcorn got out of playing them. I am one Jag who actually thinks our arrogance got us in this position. We could have played a week before Classic. Or the week after like Bama State is doing. I would have not preferred not to. But I don't think SU would have been in any worse shape for Classic. Injuries are part of the game. Heck any of our players can be hurt now and not be ready for Classic. Plus aint like Pete need extra time to beat GSU anyway. (had to throw that in).

Now in saying all that. You still have games left. Just cause PB beat GSU this weekend means nothing to me. Even though JSU and PV look like wins for them. Who knows what will happen. PB runs the ball. Maybe Bell can game plan better for a running team. ~snicker~ Plus SU has to get by Alcorn on the reservation. That will be no easy task. If we win all the rest of our games and sit home in BR for the SCG. Then we can only blame ourselves and our President/SWAC office for not making the right decision to play a West opponent. Heck we could have dropped one the East teams that would have not counted. I am sure the SWAC would have allowed that. :idea:
 
Diesel said:
Pine Bluff and SU haven't won out, so let's just wait and see what the hell happens first. We put the cart in front of the horse too much here. We haven't beaten Alcorn in years and PB aint gauranteed to win out. Alabama State may not beat A&M, so what the hell are jumping up and down for.
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Tell 'em again D. They didn't hear you because they are too busy putting their 2 cents in. :lol:

The season is not over yet and they are already flippin the coin. :lol:
 
jag4life said:
If you are tied overall with another team, such as AAMU and it came down to "common opponents".
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That will be decided on Oct 30 when ASU meets AAMU. The winner of THAT game will have the #1 tiebreaker.

1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.

Common opponents will NOT be a factor.
 
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