Maroon and White Papers (Summer Edition Porch Monkeys)


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SMH @ ya'll "supposed" black folks on here condoning callin each other porch monkeys. Hell why don't you just get a white robe and a hood too?
 

Mike said
Did Lewis just say that he stayed on the board while he was being smack? Bruh, you not just a liar.You
are a DAYUM Lie! Your arse stayed only a few days and then you ducked off this board like the invisible
man taking off his wrappings. You ran right behind the rest of the Gags,
Get it straight. Here is what I said "but I didn't go crying to Ken or crying foul (like a b****h) I
just stood in and smacked it out like a man. " I never said that I post every day. I said I don't go whining about it. Most weeks I don't have time to post a lot. But if I jump in an issue, I stay with it until the end. I just don't jump into many of them. If you wanna find out where I am, just call me out by name, I will respond. I ain't hiding nowhere. I just don't have a lot of comments about the stupid stuff yall be saying most of the time. Now, you are the liar.<br> But since you errornously called me a liar, it on now.<br><br>So as of now, you are promoted to the head monkey for the the 0-7 Porch Monkeys.
 
smh @ my black brothers!!!

This is indeed sad.

It's amazing that some of us cant see the problem with referring to each other as porch monkeys.

Would it be okay too if we start referring to people from Mississippi as "dumb miggas"?

What about if we start calling the people from Louisiana "stanky coons"

And our folks from, Texas, should we call them "darkies" ?


My people, my people

<font size=4>We are better than this. </font>

We come to the smack board to laugh. Demeaning, insulting names aint funny. And it really should be stopped!!!! It's low rent and down right WRONG. I don't give a damn who started it or from what school, but anybody ought to see that this is wrong!!!

Can we stick to sports?????? Other folks have always tried to demean us. They don't need any help from us, especially us college educated brothers.
 
MH, when a topic hit the board like this everyone informed the initiator that it was improper. In this case it did not happened. As I read the posts concerning porch monkeys, it appears to me some smakers are glad that someone came on the board and used an offensive name to discribe bama folks. The young man said he does not represent no one but himself. But after reading his explaination of why he used the term, it appears that someone used some things that really has him upset.

After his travel through Alabama, he was on a mission to educate the blacks who live in Alabama. When he came to Huntsville, it appears, he did not talk to AAMU folks. He does not understand that we have folks who have been in Huntsville for 30 years but never considered this home. They have reared familys, sent them to college and still claim they are not from here. I have no idea who he talked to, but I believe the issue is more than being called porch monkey. I do understand the myth that blacks and whites have about bama folks. I can see some of it being illustrated in replys being generated.

When we talked about taking over the SWAC, did this strike a nerve? When we talked about two Alabama Schools having the support of each other in terms of winning championships strike a nerve? Could it be that the SWAC office was moved to B'ham? Could it be the SCG and basketball tournaments are played in B'ham? Could it be that Alabama schools may be the teams of the future?

I don't think it is about calling bama folks porch monkeys, it is about how individuals truly feel. I hope this is not the way it is, but I don't see an end to this porch monkey thing. We will have to deal with it.
 
My sentiments exactly

Mighty Hornet I agree 100% with your post. The bottom line is it's wrong and thats what I wanted you to see. If you smack about the confederate flag it's wrong. If you smack about paying rent to a plantation owner it's wrong. If you think blacks athletes are to good to attend your university it's wrong. If you think all HBCU's are party schools it's wrong. If you think it's okay for one school to post about those things and then cry when you get smacked back with the same type of racial slurs it's wrong. It took me, Mr. Matriculation to take the low road for all of you "educated negroes" to see that none of it's funny.

Porch Monkey isn't a term I would like to use on any blackman. But if the shoe fits wear it. If you can't see the hippocracy in your ways then it's not my fault. I'm not worried about any of you and if I see you face to face and you act like a porch monkey i'm gonna call you one. If you wanna stand like a man and throw fist we can do that. There is nothing wrong with a man boxing another man. I would hope it doesn't come to that, but if that is what it's take then we can go toe to toe.

W.E.B. Dubois knew porch monkeys existed and he challenged the talented tenth to bring their minds out of the darkness. White folks and porch monkey negroes ran Dubois to Ghana where he stayed til his dying day. Now if you think Dubois would punch me in the mouth for calling a spade a spade I would like to kindly disagree with you. If anything Dubois would applaude my actions for bringing this board to it's knees and confronting this issue of BAMA's smacking JSU with racial smack. L, there was a time when the Mafia would have to post :confederate flag pic here: and :plantation rent pic here:. But yall wanna call me wrong!

Now if you wanna talk sports lets talk sports.

JSU IS GONNA KICK ALL OF YOUR ARSES THIS YEAR. SUPERMAN KENT IS GONNA RIP YOUR SECONDARY TO SHREDS AND YOUR GONNA FIRE YOUR DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR. PERIOD.
 
Mr. Matriculation,

First and foremost, I'm glad you wanna talk sports!!!!!

But I have just one more comment on the whole flap:

That "rent" "activity fee" smack was in no way based on racial slurs. I honestly don't recall anyone saying that yall are "porch monkeys" for paying rent. The fact is that some posters from JSU had said you all didn't pay anything to use the stadium. When it was found out you did, that made it smack and that made it legit. There were no comments like yall are "porch monkeys" for paying rent. I'm sure you can see the difference.

Now on to better things....

<font size=4>I remember Kent. He's the QB you had in Mobile, right?</font>
:emlaugh: :emlaugh: :emlaugh:
 
Yall did 2!

Yall had Colonel Reb(a plantation owner) collecting money from JSU. That is called "racial smack".

But anyway, BAMA Jelly had the one and only victory over JSU this decade. To bad it was the first year of the decade, thats going to make for a lot of long faces for 9 more years.
 
Originally posted by Blue Bengal
Mike
I am still waiting for you to explain the difference between the Old South (Jim Crow) terminology such as porch monkey, the confederate flag symbolism, the use of the term sharecropper, etc.

Blue Monkey... I mean Blue Bengal -

I'm very shocked at your efforts to support your fellow ulum. With you being a member of organizations associated with such people like DuBois, King, and Andrew Young, why would you try to explain the difference between a ..... you get the point.

Anyway, I asked the other day what a "porch moneky" was and I never got an answer. Webster (Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary) says that a sharecropper is a tenant farmer in the southern U.S. who is provided with credit for seed, tools, living quarters, and food, who works the land, and who receives an agreed share of the value of the crop minus charges.

I looked for "Porch Monkey" and I never found a definition. Could you please elaborate?
 
Year 1 of facing COLEBLOODED football and jsu gave up <font size=5>5</font> TD passes!!

Year 2 of facing COLEBLOOED football and jsue will give up at least <font size=5>6</font> TD passes!!!


Hear me now, believe me on Oct. 6 when we whoop your arse AGAIN!!!!
 
In regard to Mr. Mat's "explanation...

You came a little twisted, but I can at least respect what you just said!:D
That's some good stuff in there (finally).

But let me ask you this Mr. M:

Are you saying that posters from AAMU and Bama State are the ONLY schools who smacked about rent and the flag???
Wait I'll do you one better: ;)
Since we know the answer to that first question should be an overwhelming "hell no", let me ask you this, then:

Are you insinuating...or....do you "feel" that posters from the Alabama schools have used said flag/rent smack MORE than any other school?

If SU says that you rent a stadium (like they do)...are you gonna call them porch monkeys, too?

If GSU says that Jack State still loves ol' Daddy Reb and his flag(which they have said)...will they be considered monkeys that frolic on the porch, also?

Do you see where I'm gettin' at?;)

*For conversation sake...*

In all actuality, "porch monkey" has ALWAYS been a derogatory term for black people. Many people on here question the fact that you would "demean" your own people. *I* never thought it was cool, but that was never really my concern. It got to the point where I would expect stuff like that from you, so it's basically all good.

BUT...

JSU does NOT own Memorial Stadium....is this a FACT????

The rebel flag DOES still fly in Mississippi....is this a FACT????

Black people who live in Alabama are Porch Monkeys...is THIS a FACT???

Whether any of the previous should be used as smack...I'm not here to really say.
But can you honestly COMPARE the first 2 to the 3rd one???
I believe THAT'S where things got "off track", but aye...that's just me. :)
Do your thing...
::shrug shoulders::


Now back to my "smack" question that you never answered:

What da hell difference is there between how Alabama/Auburn views its black players and how Ole Miss/Miss State does THERES????? :xeye:

I STILL think you're in a glass house with a hand full of rocks with that one....
 
Originally posted by Richie Rich


Blue Monkey... I mean Blue Bengal -

I'm very shocked at your efforts to support your fellow ulum. With you being a member of organizations associated with such people like DuBois, King, and Andrew Young, why would you try to explain the difference between a ..... you get the point.


Rich:

I was kinda thinkin' the same thing! :D
But oh well...you know how some people are. ;)

I have a question:

If I actually choose to eat from the garbage can, and you tell me: "Hey dude...you're eatin' outta the dayum garbage can!!!", are you "demeaning" me????

Just some food for thought....:)
 
Just wanted to throw this in

A lot of Blacks from all of the Southern States including Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana fought and died for the Confederate Flag during The Civil War. Would not this mean that if your were to use "porch monkey", it would fit across the board!

And another thing,

I'm sick of this victim crap you JSU people are pulling! 99% of the smack you encounter is reactionary, and you know it!
LESS WE FORGET: THIS BOARD WAS INSPIRED BY WHO?
DOWN WITH THE GOOD OLE BOY NETWORK, LET'S PLAY SOME FOOTBALL!!! :uzi:
 
Ntelekt

What da hell difference is there between how Alabama/Auburn views its black players and how Ole Miss/Miss State does THERES?????

I never said Ole Miss/MS State treated black players better than Alabama/Auburn. NEVER! I said in MS HBCU's expect our players to be of the same caliber talent wise as Ole Miss/MS State. A dawgpound member said something to the effect of why would a good black athelete go to a HBCU, that triggered me to think hey this is porch monkey logic spewing from that mans mouth.

Are you saying that posters from AAMU and Bama State are the ONLY schools who smacked about rent and the flag???

No, I'm not saying that. I did however see an overwhelming response from the dawgpound in support of that demeaning racial smack. From schools that have barely held their own in the conference it seems all you all had to smack about was MS's racial climate. SU would smack about beating us X amount of
times, winning X amount of swac championships, etc. Grambling would smack about their rich heritage, Eddie Robinson, last years SWAC title, etc.. You BAMA's would smack about spam, confederate flag, and rent to a slave owner. That's why the Mafia would smack themselves ahead of time with it cuz they already knew what was coming from you BAMA's.



If I actually choose to eat from the garbage can, and you tell me: "Hey dude...you're eatin' outta the dayum garbage can!!!", are you "demeaning" me????

Dude, this is actually demeaning and ignorant in itself. If you think JSU is responsible for the whole state of MS not winning a flag vote your logic is severly flawed. MS is roughly 65% white and 35% black. The vote went accordingly. If the dawgpound or anyone else thinks college educated JSU Alumni wanted to fly a confederate flag they are ignorant. If you think JSU Alumni didn't vote your ignorant also. That is what makes that smack demeaning and racist. The counties where our 3 HBCU's are located Hinds, Claiborne, and Leflore all voted for the new flag. Tougaloo is in Hinds County, but i'm not sure how the vote went in Holly Springs (Rust College). I guess you would like to smack black people in the city of Memphis for allowing MLK to get assasinated there also? There is no room for that kind conversation on a smack board related to sports. Do we pay an activity fee to play in Memorial Stadium, yes. We pay an activity fee just like any other tenant of Memorial Stadium. Is the state providing millions of dollars in upgrade to the facility, yes. JSU is making a wise business decision when you weigh the pro and cons of ownership vs. leasing. By the way, until AAMU pays off the creditor who is financing your new stadium you don't own a stadium either. ABC financing company does. Bottomline is what matters, both universities stand to make a profit/loss from football games whether you lease or own. And if it don't make dollars...you know the rest.

But anyway, when it's all said and done 0-7 will be licking our boots like always. Kent is going to destroy your secondary because JSU has a line this year. L, he did it last year w/o a line. Yall are in serious trouble. For real.
 

Re: Just wanted to throw this in

Originally posted by Attack Dog
A lot of Blacks from all of the Southern States including Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana fought and died for the Confederate Flag during The Civil War. Would not this mean that if your were to use "porch monkey", it would fit across the board?

And another thing,

I'm sick of this victim crap you JSU people are pulling! 99% of the smack you encounter is reactionary, and you know it!
LESS WE FORGET WHO THIS BOARD WAS INSPIRED BY!


DOWN WITH THE GOOD OLE BOY NETWORK, LET'S PLAY SOME FOOTBALL!!! :uzi:
 
DP,

MM got into something over his head and could not find a way out. If he was offended by anything said on the board, the good folks on this board would have ceased and deceased and it would have been the end. Most of us have met each other face to face and we know how far to go, but when you can't put a face with a name new comers get out on a limb and cannot get back.

NT, you make a good point and everyone who reads the threads each day knows that GSU and SU are pretty hard on JSU, but they know the limits. Now all of sudden a MM comes on the board and get involved in something that he knows nothing about and try to make comments. MM got his feeling hurt and will be remembered for for PM. He does not understand racism. As he study history, he will never understand what it was like to live through the most difficult time in America History when the great leaders from Alabama and Mississippi changed the course of America. He read about Dr. King, but he doesn't know anything about some of the great freedom fighter during this important part of our history. When someone use a term like Jim Crow, we all understand why they are using it and it becomes smack.

To his reply to MH, he talks about how he has educated the porch monkies of Alabama when in fact he continues to put his foot in his mouth. He talks about boxing and telling folks to their face they are a porch monkey. I still don't see a connection how he applys porch monkey to Alabama State and Alabama A&M students and Alumni. He admits some of the bad experiences encountered on the board and his travel through Alabama, but I fail to see the association.


MM, in the future if you are offended by anything said on the board, point it out or get off the board. Many have stated why you should not use the term porch monkey and you still don't understand. Maybe you should change your user's name and come back with a new behavior. This has worked in the past for some outspoken smackers. Maybe you ought to try it.

If you had been on the board when Strawdawg made his comment, we asked him to lighten up and he did, but all folks can remember is his first statement.

Don't quote famous black leaders when you don't understand the point they were making at the time.
 
What have you really said...nothing.

Mighty Dog, when all is said and done you could have kept that wack comment. I will continue to voice my offense to the hippocracy the dawgpound is engaging in. If you really think i'm gonna change my name on the board because you or anyone feels that "porch monkey" is MORE deplorable than confederate flags and Colonel Reb then your sadly mistaken. Attack Dog it's like I said before if the shoe fits wear it. If you wanna defend what the BAMA's have used to smack JSU with keep on defending that porch monkey logic. Thats you. You need to check yourself and your raggedy football team that goes 7-4 and celebrates about it.
 
MM, you finally admitted that the DP got to you. All you had to do was to let us know that you didn't like the flag and Col Rebel. TuberVille got rid of the flag at Miss St. and departed, but you cannot leave.


BTW, the meeting I attended this weekend, the NAACP may be asked to join in the fight to get the flag changed and I added a name change for your stadium. In the mean time come up with a name for your stadium. One of the things they mentioned is to asked black people to boycott all the casinos in MS. and see how long it would take them to reconsider the flag vote. In addition, maybe they could use some of that casino money to help build the athletic complex at JSU.
 
Re: Ntelekt

Originally posted by Mr. Matriculation


I never said Ole Miss/MS State treated black players better than Alabama/Auburn. NEVER! I said in MS HBCU's expect our players to be of the same caliber talent wise as Ole Miss/MS State. A dawgpound member said something to the effect of why would a good black athelete go to a HBCU, that triggered me to think hey this is porch monkey logic spewing from that mans mouth.

<font color=green>
Oh...you didn't pull Bear Bryant out of your azz when someone mentioned the Jsu GOLF TEAM??? I'm STILL tryin' to find THAT connection. ::shruggin' shoulders::
Oh yeah...that comment that supposedly got you all riled up was "said" LAST FOOTBALL SEASON!!! How, all of a suddent did this "trigger" anything???? But I'll take your word for it. :)</font>


No, I'm not saying that. I did however see an overwhelming response from the dawgpound in support of that demeaning racial smack.

<font color=green>This is BS AND a big lie!!! You know dayum well that it was NOT the Dawgpound who kept this "racial" smack going. But you claim it is...so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.</font>

From schools that have barely held their own in the conference it seems all you all had to smack about was MS's racial climate. SU would smack about beating us X amount of
times, winning X amount of swac championships, etc. Grambling would smack about their rich heritage, Eddie Robinson, last years SWAC title, etc..

<font color=green>Now you're swinging a little too hard, just to "help" your case. Why stretch the truth??? The posters on here aren't stupid...they(we) know who posted what, and how often. It ain't necessary, dude...you were doing okay with some of your other stuff. :)</font>


You BAMA's would smack about spam, confederate flag, and rent to a slave owner. That's why the Mafia would smack themselves ahead of time with it cuz they already knew what was coming from you BAMA's.

<font color=green>Yeah...that's all you see me talking about. :rolleyes:
Tell me...when was the last time you've seen Ntelekt smack about spam, the confederate flag, or a slave owner???? I'm from AAMU, so you are including ME in the Dawgpound, right?....RIGHT???</FONT>



Dude, this is actually demeaning and ignorant in itself. If you think JSU is...

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...

Do we pay an activity fee to play in Memorial Stadium, yes. We pay an activity fee just like any other tenant of Memorial Stadium.
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...you know the rest.

<font color=green>See, that's part of the problem right there. You're ASSuming and not just reading what was there. All I asked you was a simple question for you to "think" about. How is that ignorant??? You posting the percentage who voted for the flag does not explain the so called "ignorance".
Plus if you would've READ, I told you that I'm not here to say whether the "smack" from the three topics given were "acceptable" or not....all I did was give you something to think about, and to give you an indication of how some may have felt about your "porch monkey theory". oops. :D</font>

But anyway, when it's all said and done 0-7 will be licking our boots like always. Kent is going to destroy your secondary because JSU has a line this year. L, he did it last year w/o a line. Yall are in serious trouble. For real.

<font color=green>I don't agree, but I can deal with you saying stuff like this. Is it so hard to do??? :D</font>

But like I said earlier:

"Do your thing, playa!;)"

*wondering if Mr. M would view someone saying that his mother has a Rebel Flag flying over her state or someone saying his mother is a PORCH MONKEY in the same "light"...*
 
Originally posted by bornthrilla
<font size=1>Bruh, you're losing me here. :confused:

First of all, when have you ever honestly known me to be a follower? I have always been an innovator and orignator on the smackbaord and my material is always based in fact. If those facts happen to make you feel uncomfortable...well, that's just your problem. However, my whole involvement in this matter began when someone from your university had stooped to the level of calling another black person a "porch monkey" I couldn't believe my eyes but figured that you or someone from the MAfia would eventually pull him to the side and explain to him how it was wrong and that there were better ways to defend JSU. Much to my chagrin, that didn't happen..and you even went so far as to commend him on his smack.

Secondly, the first rule of posting is to never say anything behind the safety of a computer screen that you wouldn't be prepared to say if you saw someone in person. I'm sure your boy MM would never dare to come to a swacpage reunion and call someone a "porch monkey" because he knows that as soon as he did someone would probably slap the taste out his mouth.

Therefore, to use that term here is nothing less than cowardly.

Third, I might be missing something here, but how does pointing out the embarrassing truth that a school still flys a conferedate flag at their "home" games(which they do) and that they have to pay annual rent to the"white man"(which they do) equate to calling members of you own race a bunch of "apes"? Just because JSU has embarrassing things associated with it's school these days(as all schools do) it doesn't give some less-educated posters the right to recite a whole stanza from Hitler's "Mien Kempt"(sp?)

Fight fire with fire all you want, but at least try to distance yourself from the rhetoric one would expect to hear from a Troy State fan. </font>


BT,

What do yo have against me? What have I done or said to you so that you would be so pissed off at me. I didnt call anybody anything. My smack is limited to sports. You know why, cause I know there are a lot of *****es on this board, and their panties easily get in a bunch. On top of that, its not my style.

Why are you trying your damnest to pull me into this issue? Please explain that to me. Where have "I" ever called anybody out of their name on this board. I just dont understand why you are trying to put this on me as if Im responsible for everybody from JSU that post. Im not, and I dont accept that responsibility.

Now since you are all pro black and sensitive to what others think of what is said and done on this board, are you ready to apologize for putting a picture of the J-Settes on this board and then inferring that the young lady was looking hungrily at Jesse Jackson crotch as if she wanted to do him a $20 favor? That was kind of "demeaning" to me and I think you disrespected black women by doing that. What if that were your family member? Would you like for someone to put her out on the internet like that? I mean if I were white, and I looked at that thread, I would say "wow those blacks really dont respect their women." That is the problem, what other people think,right?

But Im sure thats acceptable to you and everybody should just point and laugh at it as good fun. I mean she was only woman and she was just from JSU and all smack against JSU is acceptable. Right? Ill just chalk it up as "thats just how you were raised." This was probably before you became pro black too. So I understand. Im looking for you to denounce that post immediatley to show that you are sorry for "your" actions.

You need to back up off me. I dont have any kids (well none that I know of) and I aint about to start acting like nobodys daddy. If somebody hurts your feelings from now on, take your *****ing and moaning to the owner and leave me out of it.

How the hell did I fight fire with fire? ***** please.
 
You don't have to wonder.....

*wondering if Mr. M would view someone saying that his mother has a Rebel Flag flying over her state or someone saying his mother is a PORCH MONKEY in the same "light"...*

Answer: Mr. M would feel the same way. I'm sure you wonder why....You shouldn't "pick" at my "mother" about a confederate flag flying over her stadium when I know my mother doesn't condone the flag, fought her arse off trying to keep the flag from being flown, and knows the painful past the flag represents. You are in essence calling her a "porch monkey" for allowing the flag to be flown even though she cast her vote against the flag. Only a "porch monkey" negro would support the confederate flag and only someone who supported the confederate flag deserves to be smacked about the confederate flag. Now i'm sure a man with the name "ntelekt" can understand that.
 
Re: You don't have to wonder.....

Originally posted by Mr. Matriculation


Answer: Mr. M would feel the same way. I'm sure you wonder why....You shouldn't "pick" at my "mother" about a confederate flag flying over her stadium when I know my mother doesn't condone the flag, fought her arse off trying to keep the flag from being flown, and knows the painful past the flag represents. You are in essence calling her a "porch monkey" for allowing the flag to be flown even though she cast her vote against the flag. Only a "porch monkey" negro would support the confederate flag and only someone who supported the confederate flag deserves to be smacked about the confederate flag. Now i'm sure a man with the name "ntelekt" can understand that.

Slow, down, Elroy!

I'm not pickin' at Moms...I'm just askin' a rhetorical question that provides the opportunity for you to possibly look at it in a different context.

I didn't call your mother anything, nor do I support the flying of the rebel flag. I know of the struggles that folks went through, but that has nothing to do with the question I asked, though.
That Flag flies over Mississippi....that IS a fact. *I* don't like it...*I* don't smack it....and I (no one on here does)don't support it. The only way to get it changed is for people to vote, and they tried that. It's not your mother's fault the vote didn't pass, so why would you insinuate that SHE'S being considered a porch monkey??? I personally don't see how you can legitimately compare "flag talk" to calling someone a porch monkey. But aye...different people see different things different ways.

"Only a "porch monkey" negro would support the confederate flag and only someone who supported the confederate flag deserves to be smacked about the confederate flag."

To be honest, I kind of agree with that.
But I ask you....WHO ON HERE DO YOU HONESTLY THINK ACTUALLY SUPPORTS THAT FLAG???

It's all good.....just some food for thought.
 
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