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Lou Dobbs to Obama: a 'Certificate of Live Birth' is NOT a Birth Certificate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF_J4XUKWAE&feature=related


Congressman Mike Castle (R-DE)'s Town Hall Erupts Over Obama's Birth Certificate (He must have wet himself) :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2i9cEtZ60&feature=related



Obama's Certificate of live Birth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdyLOUHz-A&feature=related


Lou Dobbs says Obama has no proof of a valid birth certificate yet. 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-hucUVGmU&feature=related


Lou Dobbs says Obama has no proof of a valid birth certificate yet. 2 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eY8CW9744o&feature=related
 
Matthew 23:13-28 (NIV)
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are....
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices - mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law - justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel....
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness."

These lunatics read the Bible every day but refuse to acknowledge that Jesus was talking about these very same crazies ages ago.
 



so, what exactly does the (false, duh) claim that obama was born in kenya, and this soldier who refused his volunteer assignment a month ago, have to do with all this biblical prophecy?

does it make some numbers add up or something?
 
ASU said:
so, what exactly does the (false, duh) claim that obama was born in kenya, and this soldier who refused his volunteer assignment a month ago, have to do with all this biblical prophecy?

does it make some numbers add up or something?
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Daniel 11:20 states the raiser of taxes will be destroyed, but it doesn't say what will destroy him. After seeing that Obama has spent over $1 million dollars to keep the public from seeing his birth certificate; I have a good feeling this will be the evidence that leads to his destruction in Daniel 11:20

Why would Obama pay over $1 million to keep his birth certificate from the public eye? Don't you think that's strange when all he would have to do is present a piece of paper to shut everyone up......and save plenty of cash by presenting the authentic birth certificate?


FEC shows more than $1 million paid to top law firm since election

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95772


Obama spent $800,000 over a $10 Birth Certificate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KO2bUOb4k&feature=related
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
Why would Obama pay over $1 million to keep his birth certificate from the public eye? Don't you think that's strange when all he would have to do is present a piece of paper to shut everyone up......and save plenty of cash by presenting the authentic birth certificate?
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Help me to understand, why does it matter where he was born? :confused: Since his mother was a U.S. citizen, this automatically makes him a naturalized citizen! :confused:

Even if he was born in Kenya, what difference would it make? He's still
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
THE “RAISER OF TAXES” CHASTISED ON TAX DAY

I believe the interpretation of Daniel 11:20, shows the "raiser of taxes” being fulfilled by Barack Obama, who is destroyed neither in anger or battle BEFORE the ANTICHRIST of Daniel 11:21 and Revelation 6:8 and Daniel 7:8 is REVEALED.

He is also called the "principal of the flock" three times in Jeremiah 25:32-38 with the same 'whirlwind' destroying him, 25:34 that we are warned is coming in Jeremiah 23:19-20 and Jeremiah 30:23-24 in these last days!
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Wrong..wrong...wrong...wrong...wrong! :shame: :lol:

See, you messed up when you said, I believe the interpretation.... You could not be so far off base. It amazes me how you attempt to use biblical interpretation as a means to ridicule Barack Obama and voice your concerns about how he will bring forth the antichrist! :shame: Have you no shame! But for the sake of this argument, elaborate on the explanation of your quote from Daniel 11:20.

in the glory of the kingdom-that is, inheriting it by hereditary right. Maurer translates, "one who shall cause the tax gatherer (Heliodorus) to pass through the glory of the kingdom," that is, Judea, "the glorious land" (Da 11:16, 41; Da 8:9). Simon, a Benjamite, in spite against Onias III, the high priest, gave information of the treasures in the Jewish temple; and Seleucus having reunited to Syria Colo-Syria and Palestine, the dowry formerly given by Antiochus the Great to Cleopatra, Ptolemy's wife, sent Heliodorus to Jerusalem to plunder the temple. This is narrated in 2 Maccabees 3:4, &c. Contrast Zec 9:8, "No oppressor shall pass through any more."

within few days destroyed-after a reign of twelve years, which were "few" compared with the thirty-seven years of Antiochus' reign. Heliodorus, the instrument of Seleucus' sacrilege, was made by God the instrument of his punishment. Seeking the crown, in the absence at Rome of Seleucus' only son and heir, Demetrius, he poisoned Seleucus. But Antiochus Epiphanes, Seleucus' brother, by the help of Eumenes, king of Pergamos, succeeded to the throne, 175 B.C.

neither in anger, nor in battle-not in a popular outbreak, nor in open battle, but by poison!
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bluedog said:
Matthew 23:13-28 (NIV)
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are....
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices - mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law - justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel....
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness."

These lunatics read the Bible every day but refuse to acknowledge that Jesus was talking about these very same crazies ages ago.
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Nothing is new under the son. Yall see when these crazy birthers trIED to take this to court and the judge quickly threw it out. LOL and that guy in the army is PURE FOOL talkin about he's not gonna serve bc he thinks Obama is not a citizen. Again pure FOOLS!!
 
coldsweat said:
Help me to understand, why does it matter where he was born? :confused: Since his mother was a U.S. citizen, this automatically makes him a naturalized citizen! :confused:

Even if he was born in Kenya, what difference would it make? He's still
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Why would Obama pay over $1 million to keep his birth certificate from the public eye? Don't you think that's strange when all he would have to do is present a piece of paper to shut everyone up......and save plenty of cash by presenting the authentic birth certificate?

:noidea::confused:
 
"THE BOOK OF DANIEL"

The Most High Rules In Kingdom Of Men (4:1-37)

http://www.ccel.org/contrib//exec_outlines/dan/dan_04.htm


The Most High Rules In Kingdom Of Men

As I write this, Ariel Sharon is lying on an operating table in a Jerusalem hospital, fighting for his life after suffering a massive stroke and intense cerebral hemorrhaging.

The news of his collapse shocked all who heard about it, sending many people to prayer for his recovery and well being.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/7471.htm
 
coldsweat said:
Wrong..wrong...wrong...wrong...wrong! :shame: :lol:

See, you messed up when you said, I believe the interpretation.... You could not be so far off base.
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.........a child can understand the scripture below. Surely, you can comprehend that God is letting all know that it's He that remove presidents, kings, princes, queens; and it's He that setteth up presidents, kings, princes, queens, and etc. Are you saying that God has the ability to place president Obama in office, but God doesn't have the ability to remove him? If you don't believe God can remove Obama, then you are so far off base...... I would love to hear your opinion if Obama is removed by a simple birth certificate or natural death.

Dan 2:21 And he(GOD) changeth the times and the seasons: he(GOD) removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he(GOD) giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
 
Is there a brave soul on this forum that can answer and make sense of the following questions.............

Why would Obama pay over $1 million to keep his birth certificate from the public eye? Don't you think that's strange when all he would have to do is present a piece of paper to shut everyone up......and save plenty of cash by presenting the authentic birth certificate?

:noidea::confused:



Obama spent $800,000 over a $10 Birth Certificate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KO2bUOb4k&feature=related
 
Just FYI, here's the deal with that "Major", this is why the media never cared to pick up on this nonsense:

On February 1, 2009, Stefan F. Cook, a Major in the United States Army Reserve, contacted lawyer Orly Taitz via e-mail, asking to be part of her lawsuit. On May 8, he volunteered to serve for one year in Afghanistan beginning on July 15, 2009. The Army accepted his offer and ordered him to report on that date. On July 8, however, he filed suit, with Taitz as his lawyer, seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector, arguing that his deployment orders were invalid because Obama was not a natural-born U.S. citizen, and therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the armed forces. His orders were thereupon revoked; an Army spokesperson stated, "A reserve soldier who volunteers for an active duty tour may ask for a revocation of orders up until the day he is scheduled to report for active duty." Accordingly, Cook's case was dismissed as moot on July 16
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ROYAL BLUE said:
Daniel 11:20 states the raiser of taxes will be destroyed, but it doesn't say what will destroy him. After seeing that Obama has spent over $1 million dollars to keep the public from seeing his birth certificate; I have a good feeling this will be the evidence that leads to his destruction in Daniel 11:20

Why would Obama pay over $1 million to keep his birth certificate from the public eye? Don't you think that's strange when all he would have to do is present a piece of paper to shut everyone up......and save plenty of cash by presenting the authentic birth certificate?


FEC shows more than $1 million paid to top law firm since election

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95772


Obama spent $800,000 over a $10 Birth Certificate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KO2bUOb4k&feature=related
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Please post the amount of money Bush spent on his weapons of mass destruction crusade oh I mean war on terror.
 



SleepyCrat said:
So, dude was just really some punk who wanted a legal way to not go back to service. :shame:

Peace and Practice
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Actually he's an idiot who along with his online-degree Attorney cooked up a scheme that he thought would give him standing in a lawsuit against the President.
 
SleepyCrat said:
So, dude was just really some punk who wanted a legal way to not go back to service. :shame:

Peace and Practice
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He's just a piss ain't major, one rank above a captain in the army, which is not saying much. He'll never see Lt. Colonel or Colonel. The military should kick his tail out with a dishonorable discharge.
 
Is there a brave soul on this forum that can answer and make sense of the following questions.............

Why would Obama pay over $1 million to keep his birth certificate from the public eye? What idiot would spend over $1 million in legal fees to keep the public from seeing his long form birth certificate, instead of ordering 1 $15 copy to shut up those who filed federal lawsuits to make him produce a copy of the long form? Don't you think that's strange when all he would have to do is present a piece of paper to shut everyone up......and save plenty of cash by presenting the authentic birth certificate?

:noidea::confused:



Obama spent $800,000 over a $10 Birth Certificate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KO2bUOb4k&feature=related
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
Daniel 11:20 states the raiser of taxes will be destroyed, but it doesn't say what will destroy him. After seeing that Obama has spent over $1 million dollars to keep the public from seeing his birth certificate; I have a good feeling this will be the evidence that leads to his destruction in Daniel 11:20

Why would Obama pay over $1 million to keep his birth certificate from the public eye? Don't you think that's strange when all he would have to do is present a piece of paper to shut everyone up......and save plenty of cash by presenting the authentic birth certificate?


FEC shows more than $1 million paid to top law firm since election

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95772


Obama spent $800,000 over a $10 Birth Certificate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KO2bUOb4k&feature=related
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obama has produced his "$10 birth certificate".

what he produced is what anyone who requests a birth certificate from hawaii receives.

here is the application for a copy of a hawaiian birth certificate:

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf

there is not a choice of forms. i'm not sure what the procedure is to get a photocopy of the original record, but it's not necessary. what he produced is admissable in a court of law, and has been verified as authentic by hawaiian officials.

the fact that wnd says he's spent money defending himself against scores of frivolous lawsuits is a moot point. any proof offered to a conspiracy theorist is only seen as further evidence of the conspiracy, and if he somehow produced what's being demanded, the birthers would just claim it was forged or move on to demanding something else, on top of harassing and doing spurious internet research about anyone whose name is on the certificate (or who has a name similar to one on the certificate). they got what they asked for, whether they accept it or not, and there is no need to provide them with anything more.
 
oh and that link shows that obama spent a lot of money on legal services. it does not show any proof of what those legal services were. because it's wnd, they just assume that it was all spent defending against birther lawsuits. i'm sure some was, but there is nothing to support that it all was.

it also doesn't show whether this is an unusual amount for a president to spend on legal services.

thank you for the source though - i've heard that $1 million claim a million times on here, and people who post it always seem to disappear or change the subject when i ask them where they got that information.
 
ASU said:
obama has produced his "$10 birth certificate".

what he produced is what anyone who requests a birth certificate from hawaii receives.

here is the application for a copy of a hawaiian birth certificate:

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf

there is not a choice of forms. i'm not sure what the procedure is to get a photocopy of the original record, but it's not necessary. what he produced is admissable in a court of law, and has been verified as authentic by hawaiian officials.

the fact that wnd says he's spent money defending himself against scores of frivolous lawsuits is a moot point. any proof offered to a conspiracy theorist is only seen as further evidence of the conspiracy, and if he somehow produced what's being demanded, the birthers would just claim it was forged or move on to demanding something else, on top of harassing and doing spurious internet research about anyone whose name is on the certificate (or who has a name similar to one on the certificate). they got what they asked for, whether they accept it or not, and there is no need to provide them with anything more.
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Point well taken...

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PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter
Source: www.politifact.com
UPDATE, July 2009: It's been a year since we published this article, and Obama's birth certificate is still the subject of much speculation. So on July 1, 2009, we published two Truth-O-Meter items exploring new aspects of the controversy. ...
 
ASU said:
obama has produced his "$10 birth certificate".

what he produced is what anyone who requests a birth certificate from hawaii receives.

here is the application for a copy of a hawaiian birth certificate:

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf

there is not a choice of forms. i'm not sure what the procedure is to get a photocopy of the original record, but it's not necessary. what he produced is admissable in a court of law, and has been verified as authentic by hawaiian officials.

the fact that wnd says he's spent money defending himself against scores of frivolous lawsuits is a moot point. any proof offered to a conspiracy theorist is only seen as further evidence of the conspiracy, and if he somehow produced what's being demanded, the birthers would just claim it was forged or move on to demanding something else, on top of harassing and doing spurious internet research about anyone whose name is on the certificate (or who has a name similar to one on the certificate). they got what they asked for, whether they accept it or not, and there is no need to provide them with anything more.
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Can you please provide the link/form that has the hospital, doctor, and witnesses of the birth; that document is called a long form birth certificate and it would have who the parents are and etc. Obama has not produced a long form birth certificate that has the information I mentioned above. If you have this information, then please post and correct me.
 
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