Da Sleeper
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Mike Haywood TXSU Salary
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SWAC&MEAC Degrees
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Haywood is getting paid that much be he is a high profile Coach by FCS standards. I am not sure what many around here know about him, but he has proven that he can win on the FBS level. I think Pitt would have been a good team in two years under him if he wouldn’t have screwed up with that chick.
Texas Southern has a good coach, it’s just time for that good coach to win games. This season is going to answer if he can win in the SWAC. He had a good recruiting class and is bringing in a very good FBS caliber QB. If he doesn’t win some games this year, then it’s time for those guys to move on. I can’t see any good coach struggling to win more than 5 games in Texas on any level of collegiate football.
Texas Southern has a good coach, it’s just time for that good coach to win games. This season is going to answer if he can win in the SWAC. He had a good recruiting class and is bringing in a very good FBS caliber QB. If he doesn’t win some games this year, then it’s time for those guys to move on. I can’t see any good coach struggling to win more than 5 games in Texas on any level of collegiate football.
JayRob
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Perhaps you meant "less" than five games. I think PV will win at least six. Texas Southern is a different story.
Storm96
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The man was 10-15 as an FBS coach and even worse as an FCS coach. That fluke season at Miami incidentally was his ONLY winning season as a head coach. I've said it before and I'll say it again; his 2 year FBS career was fools gold. His limited body of work wasn't enough to make a real evaluation of his ability. I'm not gonna knock his hustle in using it to land the Pitt gig nor later on sticking TSU for the money.
Texas Southern Fan
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The hate is real. He only spent two years at Miami. I don’t think it’s fair to totally judge him by what he’s done at Texas Southern.
Not sure you can call this hate. The statement he was responding to said he proved he could win at the FBS level.
Loyaldawg90
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It’s his fault that he is here unlike Fobbs who controlled his destiny to get here and now that he is here he is killing it. Fobbs will probably follow suit as the other swac championship winning head coach that just retired. Fobbs might get a Sunbelt job close by his recruiting stomping grounds like Louisiana, Texas etc.
LAW DAWG
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A couple of us TSU alums have been saying that for nearly a year now, but some...well, well you pretty much know. That first game against FAMU last season snatched blinders off some of us though.
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It's amazing how some alums are so much into their fandom and "love of coach" that they refuse to acknowledge the truth that is before their eyes. Those types, they are very hard to be near as they dazzle you w/ their lack of intelligence. The silver lining is that it happens @ all schools. If folks would look @ the position as just a position, where one is REQUIRED to be successful over a duration, a lot of that "love of coach" stupidity would die.
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Da Sleeper
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Shiddd why not?
He was hired to....
He has.....
Vast majority of jobs/careers you are only as good as your last review. I bet you can't go in your evaluation talking about remember 2009 I killed it in 2009.
What have you done for me lately?
SWAC&MEAC Degrees
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You didn’t watch Miami-Ohio when Haywood was there if you think that was a fluke season. You posting his record in two years at a G5 dirty clothes hamper is misleading because of what was given to him. When he was their coach, they were a well coached team. Even in his first season there, the team showed promise. You and everyone else knows that the bros take the worst gigs and have to find a way to win. He did it in two seasons there and made a name for himself as a HC after he was already a respected assistant.
I didn’t call him the greatest coach of all time or anything, but I just made the point that he has proven himself as a coach who can win. The heat is on him to win this year, so I expect to see a much more aggressive Haywood. He knows his name is on the line if he ever wants to land another FBS gig.
SWAC&MEAC Degrees
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I think Fobbs has to post a better record vs non SWAC opposition in or for him to get a Sun Belt gig. I think he can land a C-USA gig if he can somehow having a championship season along with beating a G5 or top 10 FCS program.
SWAC&MEAC Degrees
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Yup. Thanks for fixing it.
Da Sleeper
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He should have showed up with this mind frame.
Some don't matriculate in the real-world bruh. Leave it be.
$300,000 should produce RESULTS, at least demonstrate GREAT improvement and competitivity, at the D-I FCS level, in the SWAC, which is arguably at its lowest points ever since it was created. Review sTu football's 2017 record. Pay no attention to who's leading the program right now and ask yourself, is this effort of schedule worth 300,000$? Are his coordinators worth that $95,000?
L - FAMU (MEAC lower-tier; rebuilding)
L - HBU (southland conf cellar dweller and still recently started playing football)
L - AAMU (rebuilding)
L - Alcorn St
L - Kennesaw St
L - Alabama St
L - Grambling St
W - MVSU smh
L - Southern U
W - UAPB smh (totally rebuilding)
L - PVAMU
Damned the scores on the losses. "Close" only counts during the games of horseshoes and hand-grenade toss. I'd be highly pissed if I were an sTu alum.
Da Sleeper
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I thought you were, so who ya wit?
Just kidding B, just kidding, Lord knows I don't want the wrath of your alter ego.
I thought you were, so who ya wit?
Just kidding B, just kidding, Lord knows I don't want the wrath of your alter ego.
LOL
Nah mane. Since DCG divorced me, I ain't been the same man.I never really thought about coach Haywood's salary until this was brought up. 300K$ for 2-9? smh How much is keeler getting @ shsu? 172K$ or thereabouts?
SWAC&MEAC Degrees
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I really think he did bro. I know y’all are ready to win right now, but I think he is to. Haywood is only 6-10 in the SWAC. That’s not a horrible job in two years of coaching a program that hasn’t had a winning season since 2010. In his first year, his 4-7 record was a play away from being 8-3 if you look at the number of nail biters. I think he wants to win bro.
SWAC&MEAC Degrees
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I strongly agree.
Loyaldawg90
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London will probably contend this year for MEAC my opinion. He turned a laughing stock into something that now players wanna be a part of. He did what TSU should’ve done for $300k a year. It’s probabky harder to find instate talent at Howard that at Tx Southern.
Texas Southern Fan
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What six will PV win? I’m just asking. In a perfect world they could win the West. They could very well finish third in the West again.
JayRob
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Don't know which six, but Simmons did leave a little talent there before he left.
Texas Southern Fan
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At best TSU should could have won five games (HBU, AA&M, MVSU, ASU, and UAPB). They were young and played a lot of freshman. So, far Haywood’s first recruiting class have not produced many ball players. I think it is unfair to fire a coach before his first recruiting class become seniors. To be fair to Haywood when did Texas Southern get off probation?
Texas Southern Fan
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I’m sure someone will correct me if i’m wrong. Texas Southern probationary period ended after 2016.
Q: Football suffered heavy sanctions in scholarships and recruiting visits because of NCAA rules violations under previous coaches. How difficult has it been for the program to recover and compete?
McClelland: Probation negatively impacted football to the point to where, as you wrote, we were near the death penalty. It's been three decades since SMU received the death penalty for football (in 1987), and it still hasn't fully recovered. Recovery is not an overnight process. The first thing we did with football was bringing in (coach) Darrell Asberry (2012-15), and other than winning games, he did a remarkable job. He took the nation's lowest APR rate for football and built it to the point where we have a graduation rate of about 65 percent. Now we have Michael Haywood (as coach), and I am optimistic. The last part of the process is winning games. Everything else in the football program is solid. You can't almost get the death penalty and win a bunch of football games. It is a process.
Q: Football suffered heavy sanctions in scholarships and recruiting visits because of NCAA rules violations under previous coaches. How difficult has it been for the program to recover and compete?
McClelland: Probation negatively impacted football to the point to where, as you wrote, we were near the death penalty. It's been three decades since SMU received the death penalty for football (in 1987), and it still hasn't fully recovered. Recovery is not an overnight process. The first thing we did with football was bringing in (coach) Darrell Asberry (2012-15), and other than winning games, he did a remarkable job. He took the nation's lowest APR rate for football and built it to the point where we have a graduation rate of about 65 percent. Now we have Michael Haywood (as coach), and I am optimistic. The last part of the process is winning games. Everything else in the football program is solid. You can't almost get the death penalty and win a bunch of football games. It is a process.
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