Southern University remains under postseason ban because of APR problems





Herbert77060,

JR man, evidently someone keeps telling the NCAA you can find the info. SU should just 'fess up and take the punishment. I know what y'all trying to do.....string it along until the two or three year average catches up and hope the NCAA says okay....y'all good. Man just suck it up like AlaSt and sTu did and get it over with.

Just speculating.....

That is what Dr. Broussard and the rest if Southern's administrators have suggested to the NCAA. The NCAA at this point has said no, they do not operate in that manner. The NCAA wants Southern to re-certify all athletes during this time period. I am imagine this can be more difficult if you are unable to reconcile your rosters of college athletes during that period with both internal an external sources necessary for authorized transcripts. In fact, you can not just get it over with. Texas Southern under Dr. Charles McClelland's leadership (and to some degree now Alabama State in the process, they hired BD Educational Consulting, LLC) literally hired Bond, Schoenick and King as well as an individual from the NCAA, Mike Moleta, for this process which you are aware. But, you may not realize that Mike Moleta increased the staff by four and Texas Southern University athletics began the tedious process of re-certifying each college athlete that participating in any sport on campus during that period. This was one of the components that placed Texas Southern in a very solid position regarding operating under the NCAA governance. Texas Southern was unable to just get it over with.
 
So, what is the NCAA looking for? Are they trying to see if SU used players at any point who should not have been in school? Because to re-certify you have to have transcripts that follow the athlete....correct?


Herbert77060,



That is what Dr. Broussard and the rest if Southern's administrators have suggested to the NCAA. The NCAA at this point has said no, they do not operate in that manner. The NCAA wants Southern to re-certify all athletes during this time period. I am imagine this can be more difficult if you are unable to reconcile your rosters of college athletes during that period with both internal an external sources necessary for authorized transcripts. In fact, you can not just get it over with. Texas Southern under Dr. Charles McClelland's leadership (and to some degree now Alabama State in the process, they hired BD Educational Consulting, LLC) literally hired Bond, Schoenick and King as well as an individual from the NCAA, Mike Moleta, for this process which you are aware. But, you may not realize that Mike Moleta increased the staff by four and Texas Southern University athletics began the tedious process of re-certifying each college athlete that participating in any sport on campus during that period. This was one of the components that placed Texas Southern in a very solid position regarding operating under the NCAA governance. Texas Southern was unable to just get it over with.
 
So, what is the NCAA looking for? Are they trying to see if SU used players at any point who should not have been in school? Because to re-certify you have to have transcripts that follow the athlete....correct?

The article is pretty clear about what the issue is.
 
So, what is the NCAA looking for? Are they trying to see if SU used players at any point who should not have been in school? Because to re-certify you have to have transcripts that follow the athlete....correct?

Hell at this point, im convinced those bastards don't even know what the hell they are looking for.
 
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Time for SU to lawyer up and fight these mofos.

JR, let's be realistic here. You guys can't afford a lawyer to stop payment on a check let alone go up against the Collegiate Giant/Warlord aka NCAA. That will be a waste of the little money you have. Unless you all are planning on moving down to D2 then I suggest that you all be quiet and thank the Good Lord that the hammer hasn't fell (yet) and keep it moving. You all don't want to draw anymore negative attention to you all's mess.
 
JR, let's be realistic here. You guys can't afford a lawyer to stop payment on a check let alone go up against the Collegiate Giant/Warlord aka NCAA. That will be a waste of the little money you have. Unless you all are planning on moving down to D2 then I suggest that you all be quiet and thank the Good Lord that the hammer hasn't fell (yet) and keep it moving. You all don't want to draw anymore negative attention to you all's mess.

You do realize how many SU folks are attorneys right? Including Tony Clayton and Cleo Fields.

I think we can afford plenty of lawyers. That's the one thing we have unlimited access to.

Actually I do want to draw attention to them sorry mofos. As much as possible.
 
You do realize how many SU folks are attorneys right? Including Tony Clayton and Cleo Fields.

I think we can afford plenty of lawyers. That's the one thing we have unlimited access to.

Actually I do want to draw attention to them sorry mofos. As much as possible.
Are these those 6 figured people you talked about some years ago? Why did they let some of your sport programs get cut?

And no, you DONT want to draw attention to you all's mess. Be thankful that the Warlord is working with you guys. If they wanted to, they could kill your programs.
 
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Are these those 6 figured people you talked about some years ago? Why did they let some of your sport programs get cut?

And no, you DONT want to draw atension to you all's mess. Be thankful that the Warlord is working with you guys. If they wanted to, they could kill your programs.

The same reason your six figure folks hired and old man to coach your football team and pay him more than any other coach in the conference.
 



The same reason your six figure folks hired and old man to coach your football team and pay him more than any other coach in the conference.
Uh......ok. But you guys are in NCAA ban purgatory. Better known as "No Man's Land". And you want to fight these guys? Well, go ahead. I'll just sit over here >>>>>>>>>>> and watch.

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That is what Dr. Broussard and the rest if Southern's administrators have suggested to the NCAA. The NCAA at this point has said no, they do not operate in that manner. The NCAA wants Southern to re-certify all athletes during this time period. I am imagine this can be more difficult if you are unable to reconcile your rosters of college athletes during that period with both internal an external sources necessary for authorized transcripts. In fact, you can not just get it over with. Texas Southern under Dr. Charles McClelland's leadership (and to some degree now Alabama State in the process, they hired BD Educational Consulting, LLC) literally hired Bond, Schoenick and King as well as an individual from the NCAA, Mike Moleta, for this process which you are aware. But, you may not realize that Mike Moleta increased the staff by four and Texas Southern University athletics began the tedious process of re-certifying each college athlete that participating in any sport on campus during that period. This was one of the components that placed Texas Southern in a very solid position regarding operating under the NCAA governance. Texas Southern was unable to just get it over with.

Jafus, too costly to hire the firm suggested. Rough sailing for Southern.
 
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The same reason your six figure folks hired and old man to coach your football team and pay him more than any other coach in the conference.

What does this have to do with a coaching hire verses su's ENTIRE athletic program waiting for the guillotine to drop? Nothing.

You guys need to follow the example of others and how they handled the situation. You don't need to try and re-invent the wheel.
Heck, seems like su's version of the new wheel is to make it a square one.:emlaugh:
 
Herbert77060,

So, what is the NCAA looking for? Are they trying to see if SU used players at any point who should not have been in school? Because to re-certify you have to have transcripts that follow the athlete....correct?

The same thing any audit organization reviews. The NCAA is reviewing whether documents match and are consistent from what was reported and was suppose to be on file in both athletics and the registrar' suffice. Unfortunately for Southern and the SWAC, the NCAA can not assess a final penalty until they actually review whether a rule has been broken.

Most Unfortunate!
 
TexasTerror,

Jafus, too costly to hire the firm suggested. Rough sailing for Southern.

I am not sure that is the case. I agree it is most certainly expensive. I would suggest it is less expensive than the cost of losing revenue associated with not having an opportunity to qualify for the men's NCAA Tournament with a team that has shown his competitive enough to win the SWAC Tournament.
 
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Bluedog,

Actually i think is more of a matter of being a pain in the ass and cost

I do believe the NCAA is seeking to make an example out of Southern's case, but unfortunate I believe it is of Southern's own volition.
 
How do you know? That's it, you don't.

Because William Broussard said as much on social media, Said a low revenue institution can't afford to hire the firm and keep them on retainer. If they did, wouldn't be in situation presently in.

Are you indicating the AD is wrong?
 
Time for SU to lawyer up and fight these mofos.

That would be the worst thing for SU to do when you are at fault.

You do realize how many SU folks are attorneys right? Including Tony Clayton and Cleo Fields.

I think we can afford plenty of lawyers. That's the one thing we have unlimited access to.

Actually I do want to draw attention to them sorry mofos. As much as possible.

(In my Cris Carter voice) Come On Man Come On....Quit This Shit, you know damn well not one of these attorneys would donate their "free services" to Southern in an action against the NCAA in which you all are the ones that got it wrong!
 
Bluedog,



I do believe the NCAA is seeking to make an example out of Southern's case, but unfortunate I believe it is of Southern's own volition.

So the question is, what happens if they can't make the things match up? Does the NCAA just keep extending the ban?
 
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