FCS (Formally D1AA) Playoff History


jag4life said:
No the date was only pushed UP in certain years for various reasons as stated by a few folks already.
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The Bayou Classic was played on November 23, 1985. The following year, it was pushed back to November 29, 1986, and that move put it in conflict with the playoffs. The NCAA then stripped our automatic bid. In 1989, the BC was once again moved to November 18, 1989, and Grambling got an at-large bid. The BC then returned to the late Nov. date.

Please check out the link below and stroll to the bottom....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayou_Classic
 
Mr. Tiger said:
The Bayou Classic was played on November 23, 1985. The following year, it was pushed back to November 29, 1986, and that move put it in conflict with the playoffs. The NCAA then stripped our automatic bid. In 1989, the BC was once again moved to November 18, 1989, and Grambling got an at-large bid. The BC then returned to the late Nov. date.

Please check out the link below and stroll to the bottom....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayou_Classic
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Dude the Classic was started in 1974. Started being played on Thanksgiving weekend in 1976. Like I and a few others said... it was moved UP in certain seasons to accommodate Tulane and other activities in the stadium that weekend.
 



...and the SWAC never had an AUTOMATIC bid. We may have been excluded from consideration for an Automatic bid at some point, but we could never have been stripped of one when we never had one in the beginning.
 
jag4life said:
...and the SWAC never had an AUTOMATIC bid. We may have been excluded from consideration for an Automatic bid at some point, but we could never have been stripped of one when we never had one in the beginning.
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Good lawd. I give up. Despite several links to newspaper stories from different publications showing we had a bid and lost it you want to continue to believe we never had one, that's fine with me. More power to you. :lol:
 
Panthro said:
Does the SWAC have an autobid today? That's all that really matters to me. I could give a fvck less about what happened 30 yrs ago yet alone 130 yrs ago unless it involves PV directly.

And we CERTAINLY know why the SWAC lost it's autobid and continues to be held headlocked by 3 schools (now 5). :| It's just pure dumbassery in motion and I'd love for us to bolt if we weren't co-creators of this c**n conference.
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Y'all should have hauled your punk azzes out of the conference years ago if you people are so malcontent. As a matter of fact all the shiggady and tarnish that y'all losing azz have committed to the SWAC brand, you need to have a muzzle on and stay in the corner at least for another 10 years. :lol: :emlaugh: (dammit).

I blame Pete Richardson for the above shat! :lol: :emlaugh:
 
Mr. Tiger said:
The Bayou Classic was played on November 23, 1985. The following year, it was pushed back to November 29, 1986, and that move put it in conflict with the playoffs. The NCAA then stripped our automatic bid. In 1989, the BC was once again moved to November 18, 1989, and Grambling got an at-large bid. The BC then returned to the late Nov. date.

Please check out the link below and stroll to the bottom....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayou_Classic
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Uh dude I was in school in the band then. Tulane had a conflict which caused us to move the game up. The situation got fixed and and we went back to the Saturday after Thanksgiving. Not only that. 1-AA changed their dates as well. It is strange that Gram has been able to go the playoffs since 85 or 86.

Yall want to blame everything on SU and Gram. You can't name me one JSU team or any SWAC team that got hosed because of the BC except for SU and GSU when we were winning and being ranked. Folks are thinking PV got a legit excuse. Tell me where they are ranked in the FCS poll? Usually when SWAC schools have gone to the playoffs we have been in the top 16 at least or very close to it. Valley and Alcorn in 84, JSU all those years, Gram when they went. Unless we had an auto bid for the SWAC champion then it would be different. Right now it is the SCG and this division split stuff that makes us not eligible to at least get an at large berth. Before 99, folks could go. SU went to Heritage Bowl and JSU went to the playoffs in 95 I believe.
 
BgJag said:
Published on April 28, 1986, The Advocate (Baton Rouge, La.)

[SIZE=+1]SU coach likes Bayou Classic over playoffs [/SIZE][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]much tradition on or after Turkey Day has cost the Southwestern Athletic Conference its automatic bid in the Division I-AA football playoffs. And it looks like a red beans-and-rice outlook for the future. Unless Alabama State changes its traditional Thanksgiving Day game with Tuskegee, or Southern and Grambling work out something with their traditional Bayou Classic date, the best the SWAC can hope for might be an at-large bid. "The NCAA might be telling us that these [/SIZE][/FONT]
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You are correct and I was at a meeting where the SWAC Schools voted to support the BC and TD Classics. I don't see in the future where HBCUs will challenge the NCAA because of the ruling made to end all game before Thanksgivings. If the NCAA, which they can do; say to the SWAC that you will end your games before Thanksgivings is not worth the complaints it would receive from SWAC Fans. Therefore, the punishment is that the SWAC will not be invited to participate in the Div 1AA playoff unless the SWAC give up the BC and TDC. New ADs and Coaches want to participate in the D1AA playoffs, but I hope we continue to support both classics because these two classics are great for BCF. If the NCAA want the SWAC in the Division 1AA playoffs they will start the playoffs after the BC and TDC are played.

IMO, the benefits of being D1AA is not worth challenging the NCAA concerning the playoffs, because our SWAC Schools are somewhat independent on many issues within the SWAC. There is no solidarity in the SWAC. If you we are honest and look at the facts you can easily determine those schools who will not cooperate. The bottom line is that I support the BC and TDC rather than the playoffs under current conditions. Get rid of the playin game in basketball. The decision of the playoff game make us compete for the automatic bid. I am for developing BCF.
 
The BC was played the weekend prior to Thanksgiving on more than one occasion during the 80's. Tulane and LSU were still playing home and home games in the 80's. In 81, 85 and 89, they played in the dome after Thanksgiving so we had to play the weekend prior to Thanksgiving.
 
cat daddy said:
The BC was played the weekend prior to Thanksgiving on more than one occasion during the 80's. Tulane and LSU were still playing home and home games in the 80's. In 81, 85 and 89, they played in the dome after Thanksgiving so we had to play the weekend prior to Thanksgiving.
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Yep!
 
JR said:
Uh dude I was in school in the band then. Tulane had a conflict which caused us to move the game up. The situation got fixed and and we went back to the Saturday after Thanksgiving. Not only that. 1-AA changed their dates as well. It is strange that Gram has been able to go the playoffs since 85 or 86.

Yall want to blame everything on SU and Gram. You can't name me one JSU team or any SWAC team that got hosed because of the BC except for SU and GSU when we were winning and being ranked. Folks are thinking PV got a legit excuse. Tell me where they are ranked in the FCS poll? Usually when SWAC schools have gone to the playoffs we have been in the top 16 at least or very close to it. Valley and Alcorn in 84, JSU all those years, Gram when they went. Unless we had an auto bid for the SWAC champion then it would be different. Right now it is the SCG and this division split stuff that makes us not eligible to at least get an at large berth. Before 99, folks could go. SU went to Heritage Bowl and JSU went to the playoffs in 95 I believe.
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JSU went to playoff in '97. We were runners-up to SU that year. Previous two years we went as SWAC champs.

In '89, I wonder what JSU's final regular season ranking was. I remember Alcorn gave us the game in the final 5 minutes, and we finished 8-3. I was shocked when we got invited to Montana. I didn't think JSU deserved it, but what do I know.
 
Robber said:
JSU went to playoff in '97. We were runners-up to SU that year. Previous two years we went as SWAC champs.

In '89, I wonder what JSU's final regular season ranking was. I remember Alcorn gave us the game in the final 5 minutes, and we finished 8-3. I was shocked when we got invited to Montana. I didn't think JSU deserved it, but what do I know.
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I think we were ranked 16th.
 
Robber said:
JSU went to playoff in '97. We were runners-up to SU that year. Previous two years we went as SWAC champs.

In '89, I wonder what JSU's final regular season ranking was. I remember Alcorn gave us the game in the final 5 minutes, and we finished 8-3. I was shocked when we got invited to Montana. I didn't think JSU deserved it, but what do I know.
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Yeah I knew you guys went. But it wasn't just because you were SWAC champs.....yall had a good record and were ranked highly enough to get an at large berth which sent us on to the Heritage Bowl in 95 and probably 96. 97 you are correct we won the SWAC but yall were ranked along with us and went to the playoffs. I think in 98 nobody had a good enough record to get an invite. I think we went 8-3 but won the SWAC. 99 came and all bets have been off. If the old format would have been in place. SU would have went to the Heritage Bowl and that 99 JSU team would have went to the playoffs. Since then the only eligible SWAC team with a good enough record or ranked that could have went would have been maybe one of those Bama A&M teams. Gram and SU teams that won SCGs obviously were not eligible. Neither was Bama State in 04. So basically the SCG format has really been the problem. Because before 99 it was no issue getting a team that was worthy in the playoffs.
 
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I remember when Grambling went to Boise State. It was a game that they easily could have won
 
Robber said:
I simply find it funny how this is suddenly a hot topic again. JSU'ers said years ago, this same stuff PV'ers are saying not. Nobody cared then, even PV'ers. Now that PV thinks it can, it's now an issue???
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I think this topic came up because Duer Sharpe correctly stated that the SWAC auto qualifier was rescinded by the NCAA. I don't feel PV or any SWAC school should have a dog in the NCAA fight at this or any other time. Until the NCAA FCSDivision can come up with a playoff that rewards its participant like the BCS I will not support it.
 



EB said:
I remember when Grambling went to Boise State. It was a game that they easily could have won
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IMHO Grambling was the #2 ranked team in the nation and had no business being in Idaho, Boise State should have been traveling to Grambling. Like so many other HBCU team in the playoffs we were never respected and never will be, even if we give up our cashcows the Classics. If aint broke don't try and fix it.
 
Lewis said:
FIRST LETS BE CLEAR, YALL HAVE NO CHANCE AT THE PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR. YALL WOULD NOT COME CLOSE TO GETTING AN AT LARGE BID, NOT CLOSE.

Sit there waiting for the NCAA to call. Just wait on that call, dummies.
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And the window did open up more today when 8 teams in the Top 25 lost, PV is #27 at this time. They should move up into the top 25 this week.

Texas State won the Southland, it would have been a natural fit for the region.
 
Fiyah said:
And the window did open up more today when 8 teams in the Top 25 lost, PV is #27 at this time. They should move up into the top 25 this week.

Texas State won the Southland, it would have been a natural fit for the region.
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I believe Grambling and PV should both move into the top 25.
 
CATMENDUE2 said:
I believe Grambling and PV should both move into the top 25.
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#26 Holy Cross lost, #28 Eastern Kentucky won, #29 North Dakota State lost and Grambling is #30.

So there was really 9 teams in front of PV that lost........
 
Fiyah said:
#26 Holy Cross lost, #28 Eastern Kentucky won, #29 North Dakota State lost and Grambling is #30.

So there was really 9 teams in front of PV that lost........
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Yeah and TSU lost at 25, 20, 21 won 22 lost, 23 lost and 24 won, Plus Furman lost and Mcneese lost. I think Mcneese and Furman both have at least 4 losses, Furman might have 5 losses.
 
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JROCK said:
Dude we're the tihs.........If we wanted that Garbage we would have an automatic bid tomorrow.........
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Yeah right.
One day you will wake up and realize that FCS football has moved on without us.
But hay............We the SWAC.
We can make FCS do whatever we want because we the SWAC.
We can alway's think we are the best in college football.

WAKE the fugg up.
FCS could care less about the SWAC after all these years of denial.


One day black folk in this conference will step out the 60's and 70's and step into reality.

Have fun at the B.C.
I going to talk smack on the smack page.:laugh:
 
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Here's the 2008 playoff field

http://www.southland.org/ViewArticle.dbml?temp_site=NO&DB_OEM_ID=18400&ATCLID=3622159

Southland Conference press release said:
The 2008 championship field consists of eight automatic qualifiers and eight at-large qualifiers.

AUTOMATIC QUALIFIERS (8)
Weber St.—Big Sky Conference
James Madison—Colonial Athletic Association
South Carolina State—Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
Southern Illinois—Missouri Valley Football Conference
Eastern Kentucky—Ohio Valley Conference
Colgate—Patriot League
Appalachian State—Southern Conference
Texas State—Southland Conference


AT-LARGE QUALIFERS (8)
Montana—Big Sky Conference
Maine—Colonial Athletic Association
New Hampshire—Colonial Athletic Association
Richmond—Colonial Athletic Association
Villanova—Colonial Athletic Association
Cal Poly—Great West Conference
Northern Iowa—Missouri Valley Football Conference
Wofford—Southern Conference

November 29 at Harrisburg, Va.
Wofford (9-2) at No. 1 James Madison (10-1)

November 29 at Philadelphia, Pa.
Colgate (9-2) at Villanova (9-2)

November 29 at Missoula, Mont.
Texas St. (8-4) at No. 4 Montana (11-1)

November 29 at San Luis Obispo, Calif.
Weber St. (9-3) at Cal Poly (8-2)

November 29 at Boone, N.C. (ESPNU/ESPNUHD at Noon ET)
South Carolina St. (10-2) at No. 2 Appalachian St. (10-2)

November 29 at Richmond, Va.
Eastern Ky. (8-3) at Richmond (9-3)

November 29 at Cedar Falls, Iowa
Maine (8-4) at No. 3 UNI (10-2)

November 29 at Carbondale, Ill.
New Hampshire (9-2) at Southern Ill. (9-2)
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Journalist said:
Here's the 2008 playoff field

http://www.southland.org/ViewArticle.dbml?temp_site=NO&DB_OEM_ID=18400&ATCLID=3622159
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Now, if somebody can explain to me how you can called this a National playoff, I would truly appreciate it. This is nothing more than an invitational tournament. There are 118 team in the country, No conference in America is that dominant. If nothing else don't they all lose to each other all year long, what make them the trendsetter we all lose to each other just like they do. OOC schedules only effect us not them.

National Championship should consist of teams from every region in the country. This is sad.
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