FCS (Formally D1AA) Playoff History


Fiyah

Fiyah

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Lets look at the history of the playoffs. It was said by the Swac commisioner that the Swac gave up it's automatic bid to the playoffs and thats why there is no Swac schools in the playoffs.

CATMENDUE2 stated that the Swac did have one and they received it when they played Boise St in 78 or 79.

Well time for the history to be shown....

The D1AA playoffs officially stated in 1978 and it started with 4 teams.

1978 Playoffs
Semifinals
Florida A&M 15, Jackson State 10
Massachusetts 44, Nevada 21

Championship (Wichita Falls, TX)
Florida A&M 35, Massachusetts 28

In 1979 there was not a Swac team in the playoffs.
1980 was the year Grambling lost to Boise State.
In 1981 the playoffs was expanded to 8 teams and JSU lost to Boise St
1982 they expanded the playoffs again to 12 teams and JSU lost to Eastern Illinois
1983 there was no Swac team in the playoffs
1984 - 1990 there was a team in the playoffs and in 1986 they expanded to the current 16 team configuration
In 1991 the Swac again had no team in the playoffs
In 1992 Alcorn State represented the Swac
Again in 1993, the Swac had no team in the playoffs
1994 - 1997 the Swac did have a team participate.
1998 to the present, the Swac has not had a participant in the FCS pl;ayoffs.


Looking at all those years you can see that the Swac did not and never had a automatic qualifier for the playoffs.
 
Fiyah, I'm not saying you are incorrect, but your premise is flawed. When did I-AA start giving automatic bids, first??? Who was champ the years the SWAC didn't go to the playoffs??? Maybe they weren't eligible (Gram).
 



CATMENDUE2 said:
If you ask any old head at Grambling they will tell you the SWAC had an Autobid cuz like me we all remember receiving both at large and auto in the same season some years.
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As you can see there was never 2 Swac teams in the playoffs in the same year since you stated that they received a At Large and Autobid in the same season.
 
Fiyah said:
As you can see there was never 2 Swac teams in the playoffs in the same year since you stated that they received a At Large and Autobid in the same season.
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1984 Playoffs

First Round
Louisiana Tech 66, Mississippi Valley State 19
Middle Tennessee State 27, Eastern Kentucky 10
Richmond 35, Boston University 33
Arkansas State 37, Chattanooga 10
Quarterfinals
Louisiana Tech 44, Alcorn State 21
Middle Tennessee State. 42, Indiana State 41 (3 ot)
Rhode Island 23, Richmond 17
Montana State 31, Arkansas State 14
Semifinals
Louisiana Tech 21, Middle Tennessee State 13
Montana State 32, Rhode Island 20
Championship (Charleston, SC)
Montana State 19, Louisiana Tech 6
 
1985 Playoffs

First Round
Georgia Southern 27, Jackson State 0
Eastern Washington 42, Idaho 38
Rhode Island 35, Akron 27
Arkansas State 10, Grambling 7
Quarterfinals
Georgia Southern 28, Middle Tennessee State 21
Northern Iowa 17, Eastern Washington 14
Furman 59, Rhode Island 15
Nevada 24, Arkansas State 23
Semifinals
Georgia Southern 40, Northern Iowa 33
Furman 35, Nevada 12
Championship (Tacoma, WA)
Georgia Southern 44, Furman 42
 
I also know that in 1989 Jackson State played Montana in the first round. That same year Grambling played Stephan F. Austin in the first round.
 
Kenn Rashad said:
I also know that in 1989 Jackson State played Montana in the first round. That same year Grambling played Stephan F. Austin in the first round.
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1989 Playoffs

First Round
Georgia Southern 52, Villanova 36
Middle Tennessee State 24, Appalachian State 21
Eastern Illinois 38, Idaho 21
Montana 48, Jackson State 7
Furman 24, William & Mary 10
Youngstown State 28, Eastern Kentucky 24
Stephen F. Austin 59, Grambling 56
Southwest Missouri State 38, Maine 35
Quarterfinals
Georgia Southern 45, Middle Tennessee State 3
Montana 25, Eastern Illinois 19
Furman 42, Youngstown State 23
Stephen F. Austin 55, Southwest Missouri State 25
Semifinals
Georgia Southern 45, Montana 15
Stephen F. Austin 21, Furman 19
Championship (Statesboro, GA)
Georgia Southern 37, Stephen F. Austin 34
 
Fiyah is incorrect. Here is the real playoff history. The SWAC received an automatic bid to the playoffs until 1986 when it was finally stripped of the bid because of an insufficient number of teams eligible for the playoffs. We had been stripped on violation years before, but 1986 was for good. Alabama State, Southern and Grambling refused to move their games costing the SWAC its automatic bid. Published on April 28, 1986, The Baton Rouge Advocate printed a story about it. The AP also followed up. The links at the bottom of this page will prove it. I am not paying to view the stories, but note the Lexington Herald Leader - NewsBank - Oct 16, 1984 on the first link that list the SWAC. I hope this puts to rest the automatic bid debate. We had one and we lost it and we all should know why now.

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=automatic+bids+I-AA+&hl=en&ned=us&sa=N&sugg=d&as_user_ldate=1983&as_user_hdate=1985&lnav=d4&hdrange=1986,2007

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=SWAC+loses+I-AA+automatic+bid&hl=en&ned=us
 
Published on April 28, 1986, The Advocate (Baton Rouge, La.)

[SIZE=+1]SU coach likes Bayou Classic over playoffs [/SIZE][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]much tradition on or after Turkey Day has cost the Southwestern Athletic Conference its automatic bid in the Division I-AA football playoffs. And it looks like a red beans-and-rice outlook for the future. Unless Alabama State changes its traditional Thanksgiving Day game with Tuskegee, or Southern and Grambling work out something with their traditional Bayou Classic date, the best the SWAC can hope for might be an at-large bid. "The NCAA might be telling us that these [/SIZE][/FONT]
 
Thanks BG, I guess I missed the other school when I clicked the link for those years and I stand corrected on that. But no where can I find that the Swac actually had a automatic bid.
 
Fiyah said:
Thanks BG, I guess I missed the other school when I clicked the link for those years and I stand corrected on that. But no where can I find that the Swac actually had a automatic bid.
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EASTERN WARY OF OVERLOOKING WESTERN
$2.95 - Lexington Herald Leader - NewsBank - Oct 16, 1984
Besides the six automatic bids to the playoffs -- which go to the Big Sky, Yankee, Southern, Southland, Ohio Valley and Southwestern Athletic conferences
 
Mr. Tiger said:
EASTERN WARY OF OVERLOOKING WESTERN
$2.95 - Lexington Herald Leader - NewsBank - Oct 16, 1984
Besides the six automatic bids to the playoffs -- which go to the Big Sky, Yankee, Southern, Southland, Ohio Valley and Southwestern Athletic conferences
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Fiyah,

This thread is slowly becoming a sinking ship for you. I'd stop while I am ahead if I were you. :lol:
 
SAME OLD G said:
Fiyah,

This thread is slowly becoming a sinking ship for you. I'd stop while I am ahead if I were you. :lol:
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Well there is still nothing in the NCAA history that says anything about the autobids, these are stories written by newspaper people. They are not right all the time.

But it was started to get people to find the information and pass it on.
 
Fiyah said:
Well there is still nothing in the NCAA history that says anything about the autobids, these are stories written by newspaper people. They are not right all the time.

But it was started to get people to find the information and pass it on.
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You are really reaching now.
 
I keep telling yall the AGS started that lie. The SWAC was a Chartered member of the 1 AA by-laws committee. There would be no 1AA if it wasn't for the SWAC and Doug Williams Heisman run. I actually remember SWAC leaders being upset that the Autobid was even being discussed, Jackson and Alcorn once played on Turkey Day weekend too and was madder than Grambling and Southern when it was taken away. Jackson threaten to leave the conference if the SWAC allow the NCAA to remove the bid but opted to change the date of CCC instead and continued to play in the playoffs(and they received at large bids)for several more years until the Conference was sanction for it own Championship.
 
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Does the SWAC have an autobid today? That's all that really matters to me. I could give a fvck less about what happened 30 yrs ago yet alone 130 yrs ago unless it involves PV directly.

And we CERTAINLY know why the SWAC lost it's autobid and continues to be held headlocked by 3 schools (now 5). :| It's just pure dumbassery in motion and I'd love for us to bolt if we weren't co-creators of this c**n conference.
 
Panthro said:
Does the SWAC have an autobid today? That's all that really matters to me. I could give a fvck less about what happened 30 yrs ago yet alone 130 yrs ago unless it involves PV directly.

And we CERTAINLY know why the SWAC lost it's autobid and continues to be held headlocked by 3 schools (now 5). :| It's just pure dumbassery in motion and I'd love for us to bolt if we weren't co-creators of this c**n conference.
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pick one, you just might set another record in a different conference, this time it won't take as long.:goodbad:

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BgJag said:
pick one, you just might set another record in a different conference, this time it won't take as long.:goodbad:
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I'd rather lose to a quality opponent than stupidity in motion. :swink:

We're above this conference BG. lol We could be 0-120 and I'd still assert that (like I have all along). :wavey:

tee......heee.......heeee................................heeee. :swink:
 
Panthro said:
BgJag said:
pick one, you just might set another record in a different conference, this time it won't take as long.:goodbad:

I'd rather lose to a quality opponent than stupidity in motion. :swink:

We're above this conference BG. lol We could be 0-120 and I'd still assert that (like I have all along). :wavey:

tee......heee.......heeee................................heeee. :swink:
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this is too easy, I'll apologize in advance.:D

So many years not so long ago you had plenty of non quality loses, now you're above this conference when you use to be buried underneath it. :lecture: Happy Thanksgiving!
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We never had an auto bid. The automatic bids did not come into play until they expanded to the 16 team configuration. Every SWAC bid was at-large.
 
BgJag said:
Panthro said:
this is too easy, I'll apologize in advance.:D

So many years not so long ago you had plenty of non quality loses, now you're above this conference when you use to be buried underneath it. :lecture: Happy Thanksgiving!
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Yes. And I don't have the patience or bandwidth to explain how the architect did that. When a squad w/ 15 partial scholarships can compete w/ your "champion," you suck. :| You suck much better than the greatest whore to ever grace the planet. :swink:

Merry Happy Kwanza or whatever you people celebrate. :wavey: lol
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Panthro said:
Does the SWAC have an autobid today? That's all that really matters to me. I could give a fvck less about what happened 30 yrs ago yet alone 130 yrs ago unless it involves PV directly.

And we CERTAINLY know why the SWAC lost it's autobid and continues to be held headlocked by 3 schools (now 5). :| It's just pure dumbassery in motion and I'd love for us to bolt if we weren't co-creators of this c**n conference.
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No its not, cuz the Southland aint never had but 6 or 7 teams and they get an autobid. NCAA is using an excuse that we allow them to keep using. A conference should decide its representative not the NCAA.
 
CATMENDUE2 said:
No its not, cuz the Southland aint never had but 6 or 7 teams and they get an autobid. NCAA is using an excuse that we allow them to keep using. A conference should decide its representative not the NCAA.
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Then why is the SWAC a part of the NCAA CAT? :| If you're not going to abide by the governing body's by-laws, why be a part of it? It's their rule, isn't it? :confused:

I'm not advocating staying @ the FCS level either. :read: Watching the horrific SWAC play over the last 15+ years is sickening. (OOC) I really hate hearing how Tenn St, Sam Houston St, McNeese, Stephen F Austin, et al OWN the SWAC in various sports. :|
 
Panthro said:
Then why is the SWAC a part of the NCAA CAT? :| If you're not going to abide by the governing body's by-laws, why be a part of it? It's their rule, isn't it? :confused:

I'm not advocating staying @ the FCS level either. :read: Watching the horrific SWAC play over the last 15+ years is sickening. (OOC) I really hate hearing how Tenn St, Sam Houston St, McNeese, Stephen F Austin, et al OWN the SWAC in various sports. :|
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I am not saying dont abide by, I am saying why all rules don't fit all participants. Whats good for goose is good for the gander. There needs to be a law suit in my opinion.
 
jag4life said:
We never had an auto bid. The automatic bids did not come into play until they expanded to the 16 team configuration. Every SWAC bid was at-large.
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So the SWAC got 2 at-large bid in 1989, yeah right and fat meat aint greasy and Popeye won't fight.
 
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