won't have to face this guy at the Magic City Classic


CEE DOG said:
That's what I was really hitting at. Lol I knew you would break it down and then these folks would understand it coming from a former officer. He is a marginal student and will need some serious help. Now if he was a top notch student I wouldn't be bothered by the coaches remarks. Those academies aren't for the average kid. Folks don't realize that. You really have to be ready and disciplined for those schools.
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You shole is right Cee. That was my biggest concern reading that article. I am like we all got players on our teams right now that are smarter than he is. The service academies aint nothing to experiment with. Different culture. You surely just not going there to be a ball player.

Don't get me wrong. I do agree with you that you get some numbskulls who don't know crap when they come out of those academies. I had one on my Sub. My CO stayed on his case. Book smart white boy who was rich and arrogant. But no damn common sense which affected his performance. No people skills either. I was like who let you in the Academy. We all know some of them get in because of their connections. That part of it still exists very much. Ask McCain. LMAO.
 
2kool said:
Thanks for that insight JR. It sounds like his coaches were blowing smoke just to make things look better on themselves. Typical in recruiting. Send a kid to the biggest school possible so it looks better on the coaches resume', and let the kid suffer the consequences of not researching the details for himself.
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Exactly! That coach probably got a biological kid he wants to get to West Point. Probably thinks he is doing himself a favor. Right now Army is desperate for some ball players. They aint getting the same level of talent the Naval Academy is. Academically or Athletically. Of course I am biased. LOL.
 



In_The_662 said:
Does AAMU have a ROTC program?

Last time I checked, you'll have a job waiting on you after graduation with them as well
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Yes AAMU has an Army ROTC program and they participate in what's called the Green to Gold program (enlisted men can trade in their uniform and go to school to get a commission sort of like OCS, unless the Army got rid of it.
 
Tpop33 said:
Yes AAMU has an Army ROTC program and they participate in what's called the Green to Gold program (enlisted men can trade in their uniform and go to school to get a commission sort of like OCS, unless the Army got rid of it.
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Can scholarship athletes participate in it too?
 
DAHILL said:
I know y'all aren't comparing West Point to ROTC?????
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No what we are saying if you had to take the ACT more than once to get into West Point the chances of you succeeding are slim to none. Just like a person who has to go to Junior college to get accepted to Harvard or Georgia Tech will nine times out of ten fail.
 
I don't understand why it is so hard for folks to be honest. The bottom line is if you have to take the ACT or SAT more than once there is a ninety nine percent chance you will not succeed at West Point. Sorry the truth hurts. It shows you are academically dumb. Stop getting defensive for white people all the time. Seriously they don't like you of want you in their neighborhoods. Why do you think they are telling Trump to make America white again.
 
DAHILL said:
I know folks who made an 18 on the ACT who graduated with 3.8s in college and make over 100k.... You CANNOT judge someones future off of the ACT.
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That's not what we are saying. I understand that view point, but what I am saying is the Military academies are rigorous. They don't allow you to fall behind and catch up. If you aren't a student with great academic backgrounds going in you are in trouble. Although what that Supreme court justice said was racist. It was true to certain point. For example many of the engineers from small school's wouldn't make it at MIT.
 
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CEE DOG said:
No what we are saying if you had to take the ACT more than once to get into West Point the chances of you succeeding are slim to none. Just like a person who has to go to Junior college to get accepted to Harvard or Georgia Tech will nine times out of ten fail.
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Yeah that kid would have absolutely no chance to get in with that ACT score if he wasn't an athlete or had other mitigating circumstances like a tough upbringing to get in those service academies.
 
DAHILL said:
I know folks who made an 18 on the ACT who graduated with 3.8s in college and make over 100k.... You CANNOT judge someones future off of the ACT.
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We understand that part. But you aint making it into Annapolis or West Point with an 18. Now they do want a WELL ROUNDED kid. Meaning more than just grades and test scores. Usually the physical fitness kills candidates that are not athletes.

Someone with a high school education can make over a 100K if they are in the right situation. We are just saying if you got a 18 on ACT, the review board is not going to take application seriously unless you got a whole lot of other things making your application look outstanding.

Heck you can't get a National ROTC scholarship with a 18. But you are correct, the test scores don't determine one's future by any means. We are not saying that.
 
JR said:
We understand that part. But you aint making it into Annapolis or West Point with an 18. Now they do want a WELL ROUNDED kid. Meaning more than just grades and test scores. Usually the physical fitness kills candidates that are not athletes.

Someone with a high school education can make over a 100K if they are in the right situation. We are just saying if you got a 18 on ACT, the review board is not going to take application seriously unless you got a whole lot of other things making your application look outstanding.

Heck you can't get a National ROTC scholarship with a 18. But you are correct, the test scores don't determine one's future by any means. We are not saying that.
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He didn't make an 18 he made a 23.
 
2kool said:
If he wants football over a military career, he'll be in JUCO this time next year.
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Hey, I think the kid wanted to play FBS level ball and maybe West Point made a good pitch to him about all the perks that go along with being a graduate of their school. So he is jumping at it. So hopefully he has thought it through about the military part. I see kids transfer out of those service academies all the time after they get a taste of what it is like. And being an athlete there means less than it does even at our schools. Unless you become a phenom like Keenan Reynolds. You play at those service academies with very little hype. No special favors from professors. No excuses allowed. LOL. So it is something you better have thought about.
 
Let me break it down even more. There is a reason gifted kids fall under special education. They fall under special education because of their social skills. Most are way above their average peer. Therefore they get bored quick and can't relate to the average student. They are always in the learning process and they aren't entertained by social aspects of life. Those are the top students who nine times out of ten succeed at top level school's. They don't have to be told to study or prepare for class because they automatically do it. On weekends while the average student is socializing they are studying. While the average student is on the current assignment for class they are three chapters ahead preparing for next semester. When you push a fish out of water they fail. We all want the best for our kids, but the fact is all aren't ready for certain areas. In other words stay I your lane. It's simple.
 
CEE DOG said:
It took him three times. Most of the students accepted to those schools did it in the 11th grade. I wish him the best bruh. Seriously I'm not hating. I'm just being honest.
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Cee, that kid is going to be sent to their USMA Prep School. The Naval Academy has one too. Both schools have football teams that play each other as well. So the kids can stay in shape. The prep school is designed for those kids who have a lower than normal SAT or ACT score. Or maybe they have a HIGH test score but a low 3.0 GPA. These kids get a chance to prove they belong and if successful, they get a full appointment the next year. For the athletes at the prep school. They pass the year and they automatically get in. So a lot of times they send the athletes they recruit that are smart, but maybe not rocket science smart to those prep schools. Almost like redshirting them. I don't need to tell you, it's alot of US at those 2 prep schools.

Now that I am part of the admissions process I see how they do it. I was one of those kids who got offered the NAPS offer because I had a 1200 on SAT out 1600 back then and had a 28 on the ACT. Still was not good enough to get in to Annapolis but to their prep school. But it was plenty good of enough to get a full NROTC schollie. So I chose SU since they had NROTC and not many HBCUs have them. PV is the only other SWAC school with NROTC. The Navy/Marines are picky about where the NROTC units are. Even the LSU kids have to cross enroll to come to SU for NROTC classes and drill. LOL. So if a 23 was low back then. It is definitely low now. That's not saying the kid can't make it through West Point. But he will have to want it and have to balance it playing ball.

So you got to grind. And at those Academies, they can be in your ass constantly.
 
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