Why USC and Not A Black College, Dr. Dre?


Judging from the alumni giving rates at just about all HBCUs, Dre isn't alone when it comes to not donating to HBCUs. I don't spend other folks money so I don't want them spending mine. People are free to donate to institutions and causes as they see fit.
 
jstate83 said:
WHITE!!! :lol:
Wonder why people don't ask why he didn't give it to M.I.T.
My bad............I keep forgetting that white people are free to give their money to anybody they choose. Black people are the only race that must give to black only causes and institutions. :lol:
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It's the back to Africa movement. :lol: :emlaugh:
 



Storm96 said:
Judging from the alumni giving rates at just about all HBCUs, Dre isn't alone when it comes to not donating to HBCUs. I don't spend other folks money so I don't want them spending mine. People are free to donate to institutions and causes as they see fit.
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True and it's nobody's damn business but theirs. :tup:
 
CEE DOG said:
While I agree that Dre and the others have a right to do what they would like with their money, I think you folks are kidding yourselves and telling yourself a lie if you think these rappers or the music industry don't owe our schools and community something. It was our schools that these rappers shot videos, the black greeks in their videos, homecomings and other things to get the rap game pumping back in the 80's and early 90's. Yes, they owe us and they owe us big time. I know many of you think you are high suburban type folks now, but don't be naive.
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Sorry Cee I can't agree with you here. None of those cats owe the general black population nothing. Yes they did get rich from young kids buying their music, but that doesn't make them slaves to the consumer. No one force those kids to buy those albums. Do not get me wrong, it would be great to see Dre and others do more, but they don't owe me, you, nor anyone else anything.
 
Storm96 said:
Judging from the alumni giving rates at just about all HBCUs, Dre isn't alone when it comes to not donating to HBCUs. I don't spend other folks money so I don't want them spending mine. People are free to donate to institutions and causes as they see fit.
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Exactly.
 
JAG89 said:
I'll dispute your last comment. I'm sure by him growing up in Compton, CA that he probably had some family ties to a HBCU. One of my aunts who lived in Compton and one of her sons graduated from Grambling State University. Most African Americans in California had family living in Louisiana, Texas, and Oklahoma.
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That only really applies in two cases:
a. The family in question has college-educated people in it. A lot of people left the South to work in factories and shipyards in L.A., so they more than likely didn't have any real HBCU ties.
b. The family in question still keeps in regular contact with their family in the South. I have met plenty of people in the South that have a family member or two in California that they have not seen or heard from in years.

Although the majority of Black families in California have ties to the South, you have to keep in mind that all of them didn't retain those ties in strong ways. This is especially true for older Blacks that left the south prior to the 70's and never looked back in most cases. Some older Blacks that I knew that lived in California didn't go back to the South until a relative died or they simply wanted to retire in a cheaper state. This is especially true for those that came to the West simply looking for employment and may not have attended college prior to leaving their home states.

In the case with Dr. Dre, he was born in California in 1965. His bio doesn't mention where his parents are originally from, but it is safe to assume that they were in California prior to 1965. This would mean that the South that they left (if they were from the South) was segregated and they and/or their parents probably came to the West with no intention of ever moving back. If that is the case, HBCU life or anything having to do with the South probably wasn't preached to Dre growing up. Dre grew up watching the local schools on TV (mainly USC and UCLA), so that is more than likely what he identified with. When you combine that with USC's already-established ties with the entertainment industry, this is how a Black man gives $35 million to USC instead of a random HBCU that he has no ties with or any affinity towards.

On another note, one of my cousin's graduated from USC in Cinema. From what she has been telling us, USC is definitely more established in film, music, and the arts than any HBCU could probably ever dream to be. Location has a lot to do with it since there are plenty of movie studios, production companies, television networks, and record companies in and around Los Angeles. I love Southern, but it simply wouldn't even make business sense to try to place a similar program in Baton Rouge. The same applies for most cities and towns that have HBCUs.
 
jstate83 said:
Won't be the last either.
If Snoop Dogg's oldest son takes the schollie offer from UCLA, guess what school will be getting big checks. :lol:
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Shid...you can add Diddy to that list too. Diddy attended Howard, but his son is on a football scholly at UCLA.
 
BILBREW said:
That only really applies in two cases:
a. The family in question has college-educated people in it. A lot of people left the South to work in factories and shipyards in L.A., so they more than likely didn't have any real HBCU ties.
b. The family in question still keeps in regular contact with their family in the South. I have met plenty of people in the South that have a family member or two in California that they have not seen or heard from in years.

Although the majority of Black families in California have ties to the South, you have to keep in mind that all of them didn't retain those ties in strong ways. This is especially true for older Blacks that left the south prior to the 70's and never looked back in most cases. Some older Blacks that I knew that lived in California didn't go back to the South until a relative died or they simply wanted to retire in a cheaper state. This is especially true for those that came to the West simply looking for employment and may not have attended college prior to leaving their home states.

In the case with Dr. Dre, he was born in California in 1965. His bio doesn't mention where his parents are originally from, but it is safe to assume that they were in California prior to 1965. This would mean that the South that they left (if they were from the South) was segregated and they and/or their parents probably came to the West with no intention of ever moving back. If that is the case, HBCU life or anything having to do with the South probably wasn't preached to Dre growing up. Dre grew up watching the local schools on TV (mainly USC and UCLA), so that is more than likely what he identified with. When you combine that with USC's already-established ties with the entertainment industry, this is how a Black man gives $35 million to USC instead of a random HBCU that he has no ties with or any affinity towards.

On another note, one of my cousin's graduated from USC in Cinema. From what she has been telling us, USC is definitely more established in film, music, and the arts than any HBCU could probably ever dream to be. Location has a lot to do with it since there are plenty of movie studios, production companies, television networks, and record companies in and around Los Angeles. I love Southern, but it simply wouldn't even make business sense to try to place a similar program in Baton Rouge. The same applies for most cities and towns that have HBCUs.
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Damn boi! :tup:
 
It's his money to do with as he pleases. Back in the day, Bill Cosby wanted to donate money to Southern, but they wouldn't let his people look at the books, so off he went to Spellman with that fat check.

Prior to this, I bet if it was suggested that any of these rich rappers, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Lil Wayne, etc, be the commencement speaker at the graduation at some HBCUs, most people would laugh and totally reject that idea, but yet they get mad when they take their dollars elsewhere.
 
I agree, it is his money and he can do whatever he want with it, but like most things that get their start in the Black community, it really seems like Blacks have initially invested their money into an industry that has very little to no return value them.
 
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ToPdOg said:
It's his money to do with as he pleases. Back in the day, Bill Cosby wanted to donate money to Southern, but they wouldn't let his people look at the books, so off he went to Spellman with that fat check.

Prior to this, I bet if it was suggested that any of these rich rappers, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Lil Wayne, etc, be the commencement speaker at the graduation at some HBCUs, most people would laugh and totally reject that idea, but yet they get mad when they take their dollars elsewhere.
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Man could you imagine the protests and articles that would be written if an HBCU invited Dr. Dre or even David Banner to speak at commencement? :argue: :lol:
 
It is a complex. Notice when you mention supporting anything in our community here, folks got more excuses then a crackhead needing a pipe.
JAG89 said:
I agree, it is his money and he can do whatever he want with it, but like most things that get their start in the Black community, it really seems like Blacks have initially invested their money into industry that has very little to no return value them.
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CEE DOG said:
It is a complex. Notice when you mention supporting anything in our community here, folks got more excuses then a crackhead needing a pipe.
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I'm more concerned with the alumni of HBCUs giving back to their schools rather than rappers that have no ties to an HBCU giving to them. A lot of alumni don't give back because they don't trust the administration at their schools. I don't trust the administration at SU to do right with the money that I donate, and there are plenty of others that feel the same way, so until these schools get their act together, they should expect to continue to get overlooked.
 



ToPdOg said:
I'm more concerned with the alumni of HBCUs giving back to their schools rather than rappers that have no ties to an HBCU giving to them. A lot of alumni don't give back because they don't trust the administration at their schools. I don't trust the administration at SU to do right with the money that I donate, and there are plenty of others that feel the same way, so until these schools get their act together, they should expect to continue to get overlooked.
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If that is the case, you need to start or join a coalition that opposes the current administration. Doing nothing is worst than allowing the current administration to continue what they are doing without any opposition.
 
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ToPdOg said:
I'm more concerned with the alumni of HBCUs giving back to their schools rather than rappers that have no ties to an HBCU giving to them. A lot of alumni don't give back because they don't trust the administration at their schools. I don't trust the administration at SU to do right with the money that I donate, and there are plenty of others that feel the same way, so until these schools get their act together, they should expect to continue to get overlooked.
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You don't trust the CURRENT administration at SU to do right?
 
jag4life said:
You don't trust the CURRENT administration at SU to do right?
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To be fair, I don't know a lot about the CURRENT administration. I worked up there as an employee for 6 years up to 2008, and some of the things I saw are reprehensible. I had to get out of there, and I know others that got out too. Because of the years of distrust, and the things I hear about what's going on there now, the trust will have to be re-earned.
 
I'm sure my alma mater has done plenty of wrong...but I donate monthly anyway. Why? Because a lot of our ills are from not having enough of anything...when we collectively come together, you can change the way things are done/handled and who is over it.

And yes, Cee, we continue to see folks who use blacks as the step ladder and when they get to the top, they act like they never knew us...and you know i've BEEN said, AAs have more excuses and apologies for who they are than anyone else on the planet.

Y'all can spin this thing like you wanna but at the end of the day, AAs just got shafted by one of their own...again.
 
ToPdOg said:
To be fair, I don't know a lot about the CURRENT administration. I worked up there as an employee for 6 years up to 2008, and some of the things I saw are reprehensible. I had to get out of there, and I know others that got out too. Because of the years of distrust, and the things I hear about what's going on there now, the trust will have to be re-earned.
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Dang near everybody's been replaced since then.
 
ToPdOg said:
I'm more concerned with the alumni of HBCUs giving back to their schools rather than rappers that have no ties to an HBCU giving to them. A lot of alumni don't give back because they don't trust the administration at their schools. I don't trust the administration at SU to do right with the money that I donate, and there are plenty of others that feel the same way, so until these schools get their act together, they should expect to continue to get overlooked.
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Uh ohhhhhhhhhhhh... pandoras box is offficially opened. :) Good job Top. (saying what I think)

Continuez.
 
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