Vowels optimistic about play-in game and Bham


Originally posted by mighty hornet

Bham aint the problem here.
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Mighty Hornet,

They know that. Its just that these jealous, envious Alabama haters (mostly from Mississippi of all places :smh: ) are desperately looking for any way to bash the great state of Alabama. But we all know why that is. :cool:
 
Originally posted by Deuce
Mighty Hornet,

They know that. Its just that these jealous, envious Alabama haters (mostly from Mississippi of all places :smh: ) are desperately looking for any way to bash the great state of Alabama. But we all know why that is. :cool:
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YOU have lost your mind...:rolleyes:

MH, I feel what you are saying but you have to look at what we put on the court and where the court is located. Most people who go to the CIAA and the MEAC don't go for the game they go for the people and the events in the city.

Of all the events listed for the trny I would not go to any of them. The only events I would go is not SWAC events they are the events from the AKA regional this weekend. If you give people a city with other options like a beach, casino or some type of night life they will come...


But Hey if b'ham is jumping like you all say it is, I will see this weekend.
 

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Originally posted by Jafus (Thinker)
Shaking My Head!!
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I feel your pain! (particularly about the lack of knowledge of the CIAA tourney)

But, I would like to see that Tourney on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.
 
How is it that the CIAA can be such a huge event and we can't begin to compare??? I know a few peep here in Jackson that be talking about that tourney. It's always about the events, well . . . I guess that answers it.
 
Originally posted by JSU*Toi
But Hey if b'ham is jumping like you all say it is, I will see this weekend.
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I'm not saying Bham is "jumping"

All I'm saying is that the tournament has been in SEVERAL cities and hasnt been, as GR said, "a big deal". And those cities had nightlife, entertainment, casinos, beaches and everything else.
 
Originally posted by Robber
How is it that the CIAA can be such a huge event and we can't begin to compare??? I know a few peep here in Jackson that be talking about that tourney. It's always about the events, well . . . I guess that answers it.
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Its all about tradition.... the CIAA sells out months before the first game, and their prices are HIGH 175, 150, 100 dollars. This has been a huge event for years... also keep in mind it is in the middle of basketball country and CIAA basketball is BETTER than SWAC basketball. If we put there teams up head up with SWAC teams they would win more games than we would...Look where most of the HBCU NBA draftees are coming from now. Even big Ben Wallace is a CIAA alumni.
 
Good or bad, MEAC Tournament provides a unique experience

http://www.meacfans.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=43;t=000527

RICHMOND, Va. ?- Tucked under the interstate on the outskirts of downtown Richmond, the Arthur Ashe Center has a hard rubber floor with plenty of dead spots, low lighting and huge empty spaces behind both baskets that make it difficult for shooters.

Several coaches who have worked in it the past few seasons speak of it in hushed terms, as if it is haunted or booby-trapped. In their view, the building makes a compelling argument as the worst venue to host a Division I basketball tournament in the country. ...
 
Black college hoop attendance scores

http://onnidan.com/bcsp/946/stry9462.htm

Men's basketball attendance figures for the 2002-03 season were released Monday by the NCAA and show record numbers this year for the Mid Eastern Athletic Conference.
The MEAC drew a total of 263,070 fans, an average of 1,949 to their 135 home games. The MEAC ranked 24th in Div. I, just ahead of the Southwestern Athletic Conference. The SWAC drew a total of 222,640, an average of 1,810 per game in 123 games.

The MEAC tournament in Richmond, Va., drew 34,101 fans while the SWAC tournament in Birmingham attracted 14,446. The MEAC played nine sessions in its tournament over six days while the SWAC tournament covered six sessions over three days.
 
CIAA + Raleigh = More Success
2003 Economic Impact Tops $10 Million

www.theciaa.com

March 10, 2003

Raleigh, NC - Yet again despite the economy, the recent Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association (CIAA) Postseason Basketball Tournament provided a much-needed boost for the area hospitality industry as the overall economic impact rose almost 4 percent to $10.1 million.

The tournament continues to enjoy record-breaking success in Raleigh at the RBC Center with overall tournament attendance surging from 42,811 in Winston-Salem in 1999 to 54,730 in Raleigh in 2000 to 74,729 in 2001, 80,446 in 2002 and 80,788 in 2003 (an 89-percent increase over 1999). The paid gate attendance was 80,788 in 2003, however, after all passes were distributed to youth groups, and charitable organizations, more that 91,000 people attended this year's tournament.

The economic impact for the area was $7.8 million in 2000, $8.8 million in 2001 and $9.7 million in 2002. Equally important, the 2003 tournament generated more than $850,000 in tax revenue alone from only hotel, meal and sales taxes. Besides this particular economic stimulus, having this tournament in Wake County exposes the Capital City area for many other potential sports championships, events and meetings with millions more in future spending. Raleigh will also host the tournament in 2004 and 2005.
 
Over the last couple of years it has been the 3rd largest Basketball Tournament in country in terms of overall attendance, tucked nicely only behind the ACC and SEC and just above the Big XII. It Championship game of over 20,000 in attendance in near the top of major conference championships, as well.

Again, take it for what it is worth. But many of us need to consider doing just a bit of research before we decide to make an argument on a subject one way or the other.

Now, I have spoken.

Think About It!!
 
Here's why I laughed at Dahill about his comment that the CIAA tourney was bigger than the SEC tourney. Aside from the fact that the SEC has higher attendance, I know that the SEC is getting a crapload of money from corporate sponsors that the CIAA can't begin to approach. Secondly, I knew the SEC sells out that tourney well in advance. Thirdly, the SEC sells out games without the need to have a bunch of other events to attract fans. They going for the game and will find something else to do if need be. The SEC literally dictates its attendance totals. They could simply boost attendance by making more seats available in the domes they play in.

I knew the CIAA tourney was big, but I ain't about to put on par with the SEC. Take away the events, who knows what will happen. They have a Miss CIAA pageant. It's creative marketing at its best. And I can't knock them for doing it.
 

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Originally posted by mighty hornet
Toi,
I understand what you're saying, but what yall fail to take into account that these other places didn't exactly set attendance on fire. Before the move to Birmingham, it was in Biloxi and I don't recall earth shattering attendance for that.
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MH, did you attend the tourney when it was held in Biloxi?
 
Originally posted by JSU*Toi
mh,

The problem is that non-swac people will not go to the trny with it bring in B'ham. And you know most swac people won't travel to b'ham unless there school is playing. To make it a SUCCESS we need people want to come to the city as well as the game.
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That sums it up right there. Folks should not be so sensative about SWAC events not being successful in Birmingham. How can you convince someone who is bored as h@ll in Memphis (no swac school) to come to B'ham for the tournament weekend. What would the TRUE appeal be? You skate or spin that.
 
Originally posted by Deuce
Mighty Hornet,

They know that. Its just that these jealous, envious Alabama haters (mostly from Mississippi of all places :smh: ) are desperately looking for any way to bash the great state of Alabama. But we all know why that is. :cool:
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The only people who make that reference to Alabama are in the Klu Klux Klan!
 
Originally posted by Blacknbengal
MH, did you attend the tourney when it was held in Biloxi?
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Not sure at all what that has to do with anything, but no I didn't.


and northern tiger,
Could you PLEASE post the numbers that show where the tournament attendance in other cities have blown Bham out of the water?
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet
Not sure at all what that has to do with anything, but no I didn't.
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Ummmmmmmmm long shot.. But I think he is going along these lines... How can you talk about people supporting the trny in b'ham when you didn't support it in Biloxi.


And before anyone ask... Yes I went.
 
Actually the question drives home the point for me.
The attendance wasn't high in Biloxi and no I didn't go.
Even though there are casinos and such there. And based on yall's point, things like that would be reasons attendance would be high
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet
Not sure at all what that has to do with anything, but no I didn't.


and northern tiger,
Could you PLEASE post the numbers that show where the tournament attendance in other cities have blown Bham out of the water?
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All I said was don't act like its the solution when its not. Overall the tournament has NO APPEAL for anyone outside of the conference. The SWAC office does'nt seem like its trying to change the perception either. It just seems like its content as long as someone provides a basketball court to play the games.
 
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