TSU BANNED! (BUT JSU & GRAM TAKES OVER THREAD!)


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JayRob, the 930 mark is for two year time periods. The mark is 900 for four year time periods, if my information is correct. I think McClelland is looking at numbers this year coupled with his expectations for next year's numbers and is just making a prediction. It is plausible that four year numbers could drag down two year numbers. Don't get me wrong though, I understand what you're saying.

All schools in Division I must meet the same standard in 2012-13 and 2013-14 post-season—a 900 four-year APR or a 930 average over the two most recent years. The standard changes for “limited-resource institutions” for the next three years.
http://diverseeducation.com/article...to-slow-down-new-apr-rules-implementation.htm

If I am not mistaken, the school's overall retention/graduation rates are also factored into those numbers. If that is the case, McClelland has his work cut out for him in regards of reaching those new NCAA APR standards.

TSU appears to foster a culture of low productivity among its students and student-athletes, in regards to graduation/retention.
 
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This should not be heard from out HBCU's that is suppose to be able to educate our African-American minds.
 
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Jesus man can some of you just pretend you don't

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Man some of these people act like they are so much in the know but they are not lol. Should have been women with all the hearsay and i heard lol
 
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What's sad is that some posters know what's going on at their schools yet they still talk sh*t on TSPN.

:lol: but :shame:
 
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If I am not mistaken, the school's overall retention/graduation rates are also factored into those numbers. If that is the case, McClelland has his work cut out for him in regards of reaching those new NCAA APR standards.

TSU appears to foster a culture of low productivity among its students and student-athletes, in regards to graduation/retention.

Nonchalant, I mean no harm when say this, and I'm puzzled why you would say that when it has been said numerous times that open admission/open enrollment/open door policies adversely affect retention and graduation rates. It is for that reason that Texas Southern along with other HBCU(S) had to abandon those type of policies. If Texas Southern is at fault for anything, it is for providing an opportunity to those that would not otherwise have been given a chance elsewhere. And, even then, I wouldn't say it was Texas Southern or any other institutions fault that operated under that type of policy, but instead the fault of those individuals that were given a chance but failed to capitalize on it.
 
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From SWAC Alumni/Fan to the the rest of you who appear to be SWAC Alumni/fan we have a pretty big crisis on our hand. Do you know what happens when you lose athletics? That means you lose students and more students and then you lose alumni support and then you lose money and then you shut down. If our HBC educators/administrators don't do something about this continuing problem then the HBC statement in a form of conference, continuity, and as a group will be cut out of mainstream society/athletics.
 
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LAW DAWG,


I am in no way trying to attack Texas Southern.

1. I do agree that "Open Admissions" can have a negative affect on graduation/retention. I am not sure how that worked out for Southern University-Baton Rouge during the 1980s-1990s but I do know it had a negative effect on Norfolk State during that same period.

2. If Texas Southern knew/knows about the adverse effects Open Admissions, it would have made more sense to discontinue that policy and move in a more respectable direction.

This statement is not directed at any school in particular but it is in my opinion that of 95% of the negative issues facing HBCUs in the last 10-15 years (low retention/graduation rates, mismanagement of funds, SACS issues, hazing, unethical behavior in athletic departments, multiple presidents in 1 decade, lack of fund raising, little-to-no community involvement, etc.) have been caused by Black people; and in some cases, caused by the schools' own alumni who hold administrative positions. If we continue to conduct "business as usual", it will only give "them" more justification for decreased funding, aspirations of mergers, and other attacks to close our schools.

Not trying to be funny but given some of our schools' track records in the last 10-15 years, I can see why politicians and tax payers (both Black and White) want some of our schools to be either closed or merged. Just keeping it 100, if the retention/graduation rates are low, you have multiple presidents in a decade, have had financial mismanagement, low fund raising, and/or no competent leadership with vision, the public's opinion is that your school is a waste of tax payers' money....especially if your school is located within close proximatey to PWCs.
 
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Crab in a barrel LOL. I will be glad when the APR scores comes out, tired of the whining, assumptions and hearsay.
 
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LAW DAWG,


I am in no way trying to attack Texas Southern.

1. I do agree that "Open Admissions" can have a negative affect on graduation/retention. I am not sure how that worked out for Southern University-Baton Rouge during the 1980s-1990s but I do know it had a negative effect on Norfolk State during that same period.

2. If Texas Southern knew/knows about the adverse effects Open Admissions, it would have made more sense to discontinue that policy and move in a more respectable direction.

This statement is not directed at any school in particular but it is in my opinion that of 95% of the negative issues facing HBCUs in the last 10 years (low retention/graduation rates, mismanagement of funds, SACS issues, hazing, unethical behavior in athletic departments, multiple presidents in 1 decade, lack of fund raising, little-to-no community involvement, etc.) have been caused by Black people; and in some cases, caused by the schools' own alumni who hold administrative positions. If we continue to conduct "business as usual", it will only give "them" more justification for decreased funding, aspirations of mergers, and other attacks to close our schools.

Not trying to be funny but given some of our schools' track records in the last 10-15 years, I can see why politicians and tax payers (both Black and White) want some of our schools to be either closed or merged. Just keeping it 100, if the retention/graduation rates are low, you have multiple presidents in a decade, have had financial mismanagement, low fund raising, and/or no competent leadership with vision, the public's opinion is that your school is a waste of tax payers' money.

Well put, there is little room to disagree anything you said. By the way, Texas Southern finally moved away from open admissions in 2008.
 
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Crab in a barrel LOL.

Crabs in a barrel never offer suggestions for improvement. If addressing the problem(s) causes some to be uncomfortable, WGAS? The conference, as a whole, shows no signs of collective improvement on both the academic and athletic playing field. That's not Breaking News.
 
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You do know our football APR is higher than JSU's? Our basketball team knows their penalties already by the way Carry on...
 



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Who brought up Grambling? :lol:
I know u really don't know what the hell your are talking about. Hell hearsay is just that. I know you have to do it to help you and your JSU peeps feel at ease that Someone is and maybe will go through what JSU went through. Hell I just let you know Grambling football is Str8, so we won't even be in the equation of your assumptions and hearsay. Also read what u said on the smack board so I had to hurry and get you str8.
 
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Today my wife attended a memorial for her deceased Aunt. Her aunt enrolled as a freshman student at the age of 63 years old. She went back to school after making sure all three of her children had graduated. Her aunt graduated and actually became a teacher in the same school she had worked as an aide for 30 years. I doubt seriously if this would have come to fruition if it was not TSU open admission program. This is the type of person the open admission policy was designed to help.
 
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I know u really don't know what the hell your are talking about. Hell hearsay is just that. I know you have to do it to help you and your JSU peeps feel at ease that Someone is and maybe will go through what JSU went through. Hell I just let you know Grambling football is Str8, so we won't even be in the equation of your assumptions and hearsay. Also read what u said on the smack board so I had to hurry and get you str8.

1. A hit dog will holler, especially as it pertains to the list of problems among HBCUs that I listed.

2. No one from JSU gives a damn whether or not any school in this sorry ass conference has APR problems. We will call karma on it if it happens to transpire, though. :tup:

3. You seem to be the only one soliciting Grambling's APR in football when it was not asked for.

4. As stated in the Smack Board, I already knew about Grambling's basketball problems when the poster made the comment about APR problems and people in glass houses.

5. Stay on topic and stop gloating about Grambling.
 
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I'm so tired of JSU people whining about APR. Got the ban lifted and still whining. They seem happy that Someone else is going through something. Self centered attention wh-res. Smh and I know dude just didn't Tell a bold faced lie that JSU doesn't care about others SPar scores when people from JSU made threads asking about others APR scores, please. Then dude himself talking about hearsay. I guess the phrase "A Lie Ain't Nothing To Tell" is evident.
 
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I'm so tired of JSU people whining about APR. Got the ban lifted and still whining. They seem happy that Someone else is going through something. Self centered attention wh-res. Smh.

What a difference a year makes. JSU currently has no post-season ban in any sport. Can your school say the same?
 
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What a difference a year makes. JSU currently has no post-season ban in any sport. Can your school say the same?
Actually I can say the same, we have no post season bans, if you were so much in the know u would know that. Rotfl.

BTW,

Grambling will be eligible for the postseason in 2012-13 after Pogue, new Athletic Director Percy Caldwell and an "academic enhancement team" met with the NCAA on April 24 after filing a waiver, specifically regarding the postseason ban and reduced schedule.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...-05-15/grambling-apr-ncaa-penalize/54970472/1

Love proving people wrong. Carry On and Back to Topic.:read:
 
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Actually I can say the same, we have no post season bans, if you were so much in the know u would know that. Rotfl.

Love proving people wrong. Carry On and Back to Topic.:read:

No one accused Grambling of having a post season ban. It was a closed ended question. :lol:

This is too easy.
 
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Save face all you want to, you got caught in a lie and you know it. To easy my big toe. Such Fakeazzness. Know your facts homeboy. Might work on the Onnidan but not Swacpage. My work is done, really back to topic this time, to easy lol.:emlaugh::emlaugh:

:lmao::lmao:
 
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