To GR and GRAM before the game SATURDAY!!!!


JAG03

Member
All you GRAM fans and ALUMNI.... I suggest you take the NCAA RULE BOOK with you on Saturday!!!!

I've been coaching and been a Referee for over 8 years and I'm certified up to the college level (Line Judge).....

That's WHY when GR "the idiot" started poppin' off @ the mouth about ish he don't know about, I thought I would whip out my PDF version of the NCAA Football rule book(2001)....

Like I said before, we were CHEATED out an oppurtunity or 2 to score! SO GR I FEEL CHEATED AND I DON"T HONOR BETS WHEN "CHEATING" IS INVOLVED" FURTHERMORE, STOP USING ME AS AN EXCUSE NOT TO PAY GRAM AND OTHERS THERE MONEY......YALL GON GET DRUGGG COME SATURDAY!!!!



Let me define what the "l" happened on last Saturday according to the NCAA RULE BOOK that those dumb arse refs are governed by, but don't read!!!!

F u m bl e
A RTICLE 1. A fumble is any act other than passing, kicking or successful
handing that results in loss of player possession (A.R. 2-19-2-I, A.R. 4-1-3-I
and A.R. 7-2-2-I).
LEVY fumbled the ball out of bounds trying to option, which THIS rule covers it: Section 12 article 1:
A backward handoff occurs when the runner releases the ball before it
is beyond the yard line where the runner is positioned.

Since the ball went out of bounds this is the TYPE of spot we should have gotten:
Out-of-Bounds Spot
A RTICLE 6. The out-of-bounds spot is the point at which, according to the
rule, the ball becomes dead because of going or being declared out of b o u n d s .

This article represents WHERE the ball should have been placed!!!
A RTICLE 8. The spot where the run ends is at that point:
b.W h e re player possession is lost on a fumble.
c . W h e re a legal (or illegal) handing of the ball occurs.

SO why did the LINE JUDGE spot the ball in the middle of the field??? The ball should have been spotted on the right HASH mark where the ball was fumble intentionally out of bounds!!!

HERE's the RULE that addresses that!


THis is WHAT WAS SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN!!!!!

RULE 3-2/PERIODS, TIME FACTORS AND SUBSTITUTIONS
a . When the clock has been stopped, the re f e ree shall declare the ball re a d y
for play (Rule 11-2-1-c) and the clock shall start on the snap unless it was
stopped because of one of the following situations (A.R. 7-3-2-I and A . R .
7 - 3 - 7 - I I ) :

1 . When Team A is awarded a first down (E x c e p t i o n : After a legal
k i c k ) .
2 . For a re f e ree?s timeout for an injured player or official, or when the
ru n n e r?s helmet comes off, or for an extended timeout for radio or
t e l e v i s i o n .
3 . At the re f e ree?s discretion (Rules 3-2-2-c and 3-4-3) (A.R. 3-3-2-II-IV).
4 . To complete a penalty (Exception: After a delay foul by a team in
scrimmage-kick formation).
5 . For an inadvertent whistle (E x c e p t i o n : During a legal kick).
6 . For a head coach?s confere n c e . Pete tried to get that but was ignored
7 . For a sideline warning.
8 . For an illegal pass to conserve time (A.R. 7-3-2-II-VIII).
9 . For a measure m e n t .
1 0 . For a ball in an official?s possession.
Uhhh GR you might want to write this down!!!! UHHHHH GR did this happen????
11 . For a fumble out of bounds in advance of the spot of the fumble
(E x c e p t i o n s : On legal kick downs and when Team B is awarded a
first down).
b . If the clock was stopped for incidents 1 through 11, it shall be started on
the re a d y - f o r- p l ay s i g n a l .
c . If incidents 1 through 11 occur in conjunction with any other situation
that starts the clock on the snap, the clock will start on the snap.
DID THIS HAPPEN??? HELL NO!!!![/b]Uhhh GR you might want to write this down!!!!
d . The clock stops at the end of a legal kick down and starts on the snap
(E x c e p t i o n : When the next play is a free kick or a try).
e . When Team B is awarded a first down, the clock will be stopped and
will start on the snap.

Further more this is what WAS SUPPOSE TO happen after the referees mistake !!!
R e fe r e e ?s T i m e o u t
A RTICLE 3. a. The re f e ree may suspend the game temporarily when con-ditions
warrant such action. The re f e ree may declare and charge himself
with a timeout for any contingency not elsewhere covered by the ru l e s
(A.R. 3-3-3-I and II).
b . When the game is stopped by actions of a person(s) not subject to the
rules or for any other reasons not in the rules and cannot continue, the
re f e ree shall:Uhhh GR you might want to write this down!!!!
1 . Suspend play and direct the players to their team are a s .
2 . Refer the problem to those responsible for the game?s management.
3 . Resume the game when he determines conditions are satisfactory.
c . If a game is suspended under Rules 3-3-3-a and b before the end of the
fourth period and cannot be resumed, conference policy shall deter-mine
whether the game will be resumed at a later date, terminated or
forfeited (and the final score). If no conference policy is applicable to
both teams, the directors of athletics at the participating institutions or
designates, in consultation with the coaches, shall determine whether
the game will be resumed at a later date, terminated or forfeited (and
the final score ) .
d . If a game is suspended under Rules 3-3-3-a and b after four periods of
play and cannot be resumed, the game shall be ruled a tie. The final
s c o re shall be the score at the end of the last completed period. (N o t e : I f
a winner must be determined in a conference playoff game, confere n c e
policy shall determine when and where the game will be re s u m e d . )
HMMMMMMMMMM!
e . Asuspended game, if resumed, will begin with the same time re m a i n-ing
and under the identical conditions of down, distance and field posi-t
i o n .

Which brings me to this point and rule!!!

The re f e ree?s discretionary timeout also applies to the following situati o n s :
1 . When there is undue delay by officials in placing the ball for the next
snap (A.R. 3-3-3-I).



The clock should have stopped with a referee's timeout to properly spot the ball and the whistle should have blown to put the ball in play!!!!

SO in summation GR "the JSUe idiot", like I previously state WE were CHEATED out of an 2 oppurtunities to score!!!

Gram if you want a copy, please let me know...you're going to need it in REBEL country!!!
 



STRAIGHT UP QUESTION...

FROM MY VANTAGE POINT (THE FIELD) HIS KNEE WAS DOWN BEFORE THE PITCH(?) OCCURED. WHAT WOULD BE THE RULING?
 
MACH....

ACCORDING TO THE FILM....his knee WAS NOT down..SO yur question is mute...

I've seen fumbles called with QB's pitching in the GRASP, falling down, BOTH knees down and as a "hitch" play.....

POINT BLANK>>>>>>>IF the ball rolls out of bounds, the clock should have stop stopped, the ball reset and the whistle blown for play!
 
Kellis, I'll honor the bet when.......

Donkeys fly.......
Just because you got PRESSURED into to paying dem that money on a clear cut MISTAKE, doesn't mean I have to.....I know better!!!

Besides, I have to email KERR to see where the film review is..

If the answer from SU is phuggg it, I'll send GR his $25...but if they are going to pursue it... I'll wait for the outcome!!!!
 
Come on now....

Who pressured me? A bet is a bet and a loss is a loss...no matter how you feel about it. It's your $$$, do want you wanna. However, the SWAC office can't change the outcome of the game. **shrugs shoulders**
 
Hey 03...

Pete said "Phugg it!".

That delayed, p-o'd feelin' is a mug ain't it!

:D

Let it go and grab a beer. We'll watch Saturday's game in Jackson with a renewing of our minds and let life's mysteries unfold. Payback is a mutha. We just have to go to the bank and cash a couple of checks first! Hopefully they won't bounce and we'll be the richer for it!

A week of rest and relaxation!
Stress free!
Peace!
When is Bayou Classic?
oh yeah...
my sig is still good!!!!
 
Jag03,

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03,

I hear ya on this issue. The loss was a hard pill to swallow, but your refusal could set a precedence that many other will follow once the jags rule again. I for one plan on taking a lot of these bustas money. Don't make it hard for me BRUH LOL! :emlaugh:
 
TP.....

I'm just being logical!!!????:rolleyes:

That's always a typical response when the FACTS hit yo arse like a brick......trust me GR will get his money in due time... I'm on the phone right NOW, disussing it wit the powers that be!!!
 
Aiiigggggght....

I just got off the phone with the SID's office and it has be deteremined that although the film shows the apparent ERROR, SU will discontinue further pursuits towards that game.....

GR...your money is in the mail as of YESTERDAY, stop :bawling:!!!!
God will provide a way to pay dat light bill!!

Jaguar Nation... I digress!!! :redhot: :goof:
 
Jag03, you presented a thorough presentation. However the game has been decided. It never should have come down to the timeout, but since it did...you have a right to be pissed.

But Jackson has all rights to feel ok with the win. Unfortunately, referees decisions are part of the game. What's makes it bad is that it happens too often in the SWAC. I don't have a problem with the referee ruling him down, if he had actually blown the whistle before he lateralled. But if that dude made a call to purposely favor JSU then we all have a problem.

I would say we would get them for you this weekend. But, it's not for you. This azzwhipping they're about to get is becuz it's time to start eliminating folk.
 
Re: Aiiigggggght....

Originally posted by JAG03
Jaguar Nation... I digress!!! :redhot: :goof:

:eek: 03 Don't worry my comments meant no harm!

MB

Like I said before this loss is an extremely hard pill to swallow. Surely you can understand..... afterall you've swallowed it 8 straight times. :emlaugh: :emlaugh: :D
 
I guess plenty of bets won't be paid in the future in Baton Rogue as many time SU has benefited from SWAC officiating. You guys need to just not bet.
 



Throuough presentation my arse, I stopped reading after the first incoherent statement that tried to define a fumble.
 
Re: Re: Aiiigggggght....

Originally posted by Miami Jag


:eek: 03 Don't worry my comments meant no harm!

MB

Like I said before this loss is an extremely hard pill to swallow. Surely you can understand..... afterall you've swallowed it 8 straight times. :emlaugh: :emlaugh: :D

[SIZE=5.5]FY HOMEBOY!!! [/SIZE]:emlaugh: :emlaugh:
 
SU! after that clock Biz in Mumford, how in the LLLLLLL can you all say anything about cheating with the time?

Now I know some of you clowns are going to respond and say thats in the past. So is last Sat. We took the L in Mumford! So quit crying and do the same. Nothing is going to change. You sent the film in and it was not reversed! So You are seeing what you want to see.

NEXT GAME!!!!!!!!
 
This clown would like to say

Originally posted by Boom80s
SU! after that clock Biz in Mumford, how in the LLLLLLL can you all say anything about cheating with the time?

Now I know some of you clowns are going to respond and say thats in the past. So is last Sat. We took the L in Mumford! So quit crying and do the same. Nothing is going to change. You sent the film in and it was not reversed! So You are seeing what you want to see.

NEXT GAME!!!!!!!!

Awwww man that was in the past Doomed80's!

Just prepare yourself for that arse whupping yall about to get in 29 hours. This will be one of the few times I will be cheering on the G-MEN (from a SWAC perspective that is)
 
O ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!

O SOUTHERN, ENOUGH ALREADY, LOL


I still cant get over SOUTHERN, COMPLAINING ABOUT ALLEGED CHEATING

LOL
LOL
LOL
OMG

SOUTHERNITES, you didnt have much to say when you all cheated us @ the CLOCK TRICK SHOW 98

You're upset that your team, dayum RAN OUT OF TIME. Your dayum coached used all the time outs, then your QB tried to convince the refs of some bogus incomplete pass business, when he was down (cheater). lol

DAYUM IT SU has cheated every SWAC school at least once in Mumford, not to mention at away games as well, LOL. You cheated Alcorn in 98, at their place, only beat em by 1. lol.

I'll say it again, it's understandable that SUers would think that we cheated, because that's how they win, so they think that in order for a team to win, they have to cheat. lol.

SU IS THE CHEATINESS(if that's a word, lol) SCHOOL IN THE DAYUM SWAC, AND THEY ARE ON HERE, A WEAK LATER CRYIN ABOUT A LOSS.
lol

That's all the hell it was, YOU LOSS
PERIOD
ZIP
ZAP
THAT'S IT
IT'S OVER
YOU TOOK THE L
YOU'RE TRYIN TO JUSTIFY ALL OF THAT SHAT YOU TALKED NOW, before the game, that is.
LOL
LMAO
LMAO

YOU LOSS
YOU BROUGHT THE NATION UP 55 TO SEE YOU LOSE
LOL
YOU LOSS
LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL




NOW GET OVER IT


lol
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And stop...:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :( :( :( :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:



MIAMI JAG,
Are you saying that you all didnt cheat in 98??????????????
 
OK! Ok! I'll worry about the possible (L) in 29 hours, If you take a moment to reflex on that (L) you all got last weekend OK! Cool? Cool?
 
Re: O ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!

MIAMI JAG,
Are you saying that you all didnt cheat in 98?????????????? [/B]

Isht Talka

Even if that was the case do you honestly expect me to admit to cheating on this board. Since that is not the case.............I will say this,in 1998 yall just plainly got that azz beat. Now deal with it. :rolleyes:

Doomed80's

Ok you got us last weekend, Bravo!!!!! I would proably pay off the refs too, if I was tired of losing to SU at home. It's all good! C-ya next year
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I get it Miami Jag, WHEN YOU CHEAT, IT'S JUST "Yall got a azz whippin, now get over it", but WHEN YOU JUST PLAIN LOSE, LOL>....LOL....LMAO.....LOL.....

You are so ignorant. Thank you so much Miami Jag for that, indirect, SELF SMACK

LOL
You just said it all. LOL. SU, HOME OF THE MOST CHEATINESS, (if thats a word) Mufus in the SWAC!!!!!!!
lol

SOAR LOSERS

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