The turnaround: Odums at SU & why Stump didn't work out?
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JR
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Stump had the right ideas and I think the kids liked him okay. He also knew where to recruit. The problem was Stump couldn't get out of his own way. He wanted to be the HC and OC at the same time. Same as Odums being the HC and DC until this year. LOL. Stump was hardheaded when it came to the offense. We got the fact he wanted to run the ball. But we didn't have that type of personnel when he got there. I also think Odums has done a better job in hiring coaches than Stump did and getting the pieces that fit the puzzle. Odums is also a younger guy. A 1997 college grad so he relates to the players for sure. Odums still has his on issues at times. But I think he did learn he shouldn't try to be the DC and HC and fired himself and all his defensive assistants and brought in Broadway folks. So I give kudos for adapting at SU on the fly. We aint the easiest fanbase to appease and we will ride you hard if we feel things are going well or as they should be. Stump was never anyone's choice but our former AD LaFluer. So that got him off to a wrong start right off the get go. At least Big Worm was a popular ADs choice in Broussard. So glad they didn't entertain Jenkins demands and thought Spady was too arrogant or didn't really feel he fit in at SU. LOL.
SU folks still like ole Stump. He just couldn't coach. Heckuva guy who really tried and did at least set us on the right path. After all he did hire Big Worm as his DC before we fired him.
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SUjagTILLiDIE
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Stump was a great guy, and if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be where we are right now.
Paul Dolemite Taylor
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It's very hard being the Man after the Main Man is gone. It's better to be the coach after the coach who replaced the legend.
the band fan
Baseball Fan
He had mark Orlando's players who were there for the spread...stump came with that pro set stuff and no one was recruited for that so its was like a square peg in a round hole
JR
Well-Known Member
You can't be that way with the SU powers that be. Apparently he did not win over someone on the board in the interview process. He basically set somebody off to the point they were like he can't coach here. So maybe he was too cocky or something. I know how SU powers roll. If they get the impression they will have issues with your personality they will not hire you.
Jag-BR
Go Jags!!!!!!
Yep.
Jag-BR
Go Jags!!!!!!
Right. He loss me when he said the flood in br shouldn't be used as an excuse and there are people still suffering smh
I wonder when he sees the name Southern does he get some type of orgasm or something?
bluedog
"Leader of Kings"
Bruh sometimes your logic is worse than the 123 dude.
Jag-BR
Go Jags!!!!!!
his wife must have well ex wife must have been a jag and did him some terrible things
I just wonder if he ever read wtf he post before clicking submit
2kool
Well-Known Member
He's not necessarily "arrogant" but he's not exactly humble either.
Many HBCU administrators and powers-that-be want their coaches to kiss their ass and bend at their will. Since most coaches are former players, those humble church deacon types are few and far between.
the band fan
Baseball Fan
The 2013 game at SU when they rallied back to beat PV set Odums up that season as the Jags began to establish identity
If Pv won, They're headed to the title game and no telling what happens after
If Pv won, They're headed to the title game and no telling what happens after
JayRob
TigaPaw
Some of y'all acting like the man named Odums won three or four titles in a row. Dude won only one and is an average coach at best, who knows little about defense. Heck, he was on the hot seat just last year and still might be depending on how the rest of the year goes.
That's not hate, that's fact. Dude is far from a coaching guru.
That's not hate, that's fact. Dude is far from a coaching guru.
JAG89
THE NEW AMERICA'S TEAM
Him and few others are relentless about Southern. Well, as they say, you must be doing something right when you have people that hate you 24/7/365 and on leap year 24/7/366.
JAG89
THE NEW AMERICA'S TEAM
At least he has match the number of titles JSU has won with 3 different coaches in past 10 years. And if you go back to the last 15 years, that would be 1 title JSU has won with 5 different coaches.
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Journalist
Listen up maggots! And that's an order!
Remember that the interim season (2012)
Worm beat Jackson, FAMU and Grambling. I think only Worm and Pete beat those three in the same season. Those wins and the promising outlook for 2013 gave Worm some cache and Southern took the interim tag off of him.
2012 was the jump off point for 2013 and 2014. 2013 was Tillery and Quinn's first season on the field. Lost Dray, Doss and others after 2013. Austin Howard took over as a TRUE freshman QB in 2014 and Southern nearly won a second straight SWAC title.
The sanctions stem from late in the Pete era. Stump, and later Worm, inherited those scholarship and practice time restrictions. Morale was low after Pete, and the fractured fan base didn't really get behind Stump. Stump didn't do himself favors with the losing, but he helped right the ship with how Southern recruited.
Jag-BR
Go Jags!!!!!!
Who in the hell said his seat was hot? Swac title in 13, west champs in 14 and a few plays from going in 15. No his seat is nowhere near hot.last year, despite the average year we had, we still were in a position to go back a 3rd straight year. And i remember everyone saying he needed to hire a dc and he did that. Nobody mentioned hot seat just stfu