The BEST NFL Black Quarterback?
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Blacknbengal
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Thanks Jrock. I couldnt have said it better myself.JROCK said:
Get Ready
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You are a girl.
Frist of all, GR agrees that Price is overpaid. It was silly of ATL to pay that kid 10 mill to sign his name. But you guys are sadly overlooking the obvious. Its not all the the WRs fault that they are not catching the ball. The biggest reason they are catching the ball is that Vick cant hit the side of a barn with a machine gun. As a passer HE SUCKS. HE CANT THROW. PERIOD. If they would let Vick run out to the WR and hand them the ball, they would have something, but the FACT is that VICK is one of the lowest rated QBs cause of his low completion percentage. If your QB rating is below Jake Plummer, that aint good. Vick is the 26th(ish) rated QB in the league.
How would you like to try to catch them damn medicine balls he throws? Ask that Jefferson kid in Green Bay about that.
And MH
You have proven that you know absolutely nothing about nothing. The next you offer something to a conversation will be the first time.
Let me beat you to it
"i knew it wasnt going in"
Frist of all, GR agrees that Price is overpaid. It was silly of ATL to pay that kid 10 mill to sign his name. But you guys are sadly overlooking the obvious. Its not all the the WRs fault that they are not catching the ball. The biggest reason they are catching the ball is that Vick cant hit the side of a barn with a machine gun. As a passer HE SUCKS. HE CANT THROW. PERIOD. If they would let Vick run out to the WR and hand them the ball, they would have something, but the FACT is that VICK is one of the lowest rated QBs cause of his low completion percentage. If your QB rating is below Jake Plummer, that aint good. Vick is the 26th(ish) rated QB in the league.
How would you like to try to catch them damn medicine balls he throws? Ask that Jefferson kid in Green Bay about that.
And MH
You have proven that you know absolutely nothing about nothing. The next you offer something to a conversation will be the first time.
Let me beat you to it
"i knew it wasnt going in"
mighty hornet
The HMIC!!
Don't get mad at me because everybody with any kind of football sense knew that Price wasn't a great receiver. Your post just showed that you obviously aint in the group that has football sense.
Read and watch more. You just might learn a lil.
LOL!!!!!!!
carry on....
Read and watch more. You just might learn a lil.
LOL!!!!!!!
carry on....
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Blacknbengal
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GR, we will have a big time WR. He may come through Free agency or Jenkins may develop into him, but he's coming. Wait, watch, and see.
JROCK
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Get Ready said:
GR,
Your are really having a bad day. Your comparison of Blank to Jones again tells me that you don't know what you're talking about. In reference to your question.........Is the sky still blue and the SUn gold? I would advise you to look at Vick a little closer next year (during the REGULAR) season. MV is the MJ of the NFL. MV flicks that football like it is a fricking dart heading for the bullseye. Again, the "Dirty Birds" do not have a formidable wideout. If you knew what I did, you would probably punch Peerless in the mouth. :lol: (then again, I don't know; you were skinning and grinning w/D. Bell)
Blacknbengal
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Better.Get Ready said:
Get Ready
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You are right Jrock
Comparing Blank to Jones is no comparison....Jones hasTHREE rings, Blanks has none.
And now we have people on this board that think Vick has the same accuracy as Culpepper. You guys....sheesh ...nevermind
Vick can run faster than Culpepper....thats it...PERIOD.
Comparing Blank to Jones is no comparison....Jones hasTHREE rings, Blanks has none.
And now we have people on this board that think Vick has the same accuracy as Culpepper. You guys....sheesh ...nevermind
Vick can run faster than Culpepper....thats it...PERIOD.
JROCK
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Get Ready said:
Jones has had brain erosion. He sort of reminds me of you. :lol: When was the last time Adolph Jones won a ring or made a sound football decision? I believe Dallas drought is longer than Jackson State's (maybe someone/you can confirm this). :lol:
Let's just say that if we were shooting hoops today your shot would be off. Tomorrow may be a better day (I am not so sure though, based on jsu performance the last 8 years, this just may not be your "season") :lol:
Journalist
Listen up maggots! And that's an order!
Get Ready said:
Arthur Blank (who made his money off Home Depot) is not the Jerry Jones wannabe. That honor, Gee Arrah, goes to Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder. To Blank's credit, he has a top-notch GM in Rich McKay and a decent young coach in Jim Mora Jr. Now I still say they should've drafted Ashlie Lelie instead of T.J. Duckett (3rd down backs come a dime a dozen in the NFL), but ATL seems to be on the right path.
Besides, what was the last good decision Jerry Jones made? Don't count pimpin' the city of Arlington to pass a tax to build a new stadium for the 'Boys.
Vick's accuracy is NOT better than Culpepper's...once Vick gets recievers OTHER than Algee Crumpler that he could trust his completion rate should improve. Now...Vick's arm is better than Culpepper's (not by much), but Vick isn't as polished a passer as Daunte. Both can make all the throws...Culpepper is just a superb passer while Vick relies on his legs more than his arm. Vick will have to become a good passer to compliment his great running ability (like Steve Young did).
Da_Sperm
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Jones wouldn't dare drop season ticket prices to $100 like Blank. Why? Simply because he owns the Dallas Cowboys. To many, going to see the Cowboys play at Texas Stadium is like going to Disney. You will never see the day when there is only 30,000 at a Cowboys game.
That is the difference between Jones and Blank. Jones' Cowboys are the property right before you pass "GO", Blank's Falcons are the property somewhere after you pass "GO".
That is the difference between Jones and Blank. Jones' Cowboys are the property right before you pass "GO", Blank's Falcons are the property somewhere after you pass "GO".
mighty hornet
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Sperm,
You act as if Blank has owned the Falcons for umpteen years. He bought the team in 2002. And the Cowboys may have a history, but it's just that........history!!!!!!!!
btw, when was it that only 30K showed up to a FALCONS game?
:smh:
You act as if Blank has owned the Falcons for umpteen years. He bought the team in 2002. And the Cowboys may have a history, but it's just that........history!!!!!!!!
btw, when was it that only 30K showed up to a FALCONS game?
:smh:
I will give Blank credit for maximizing his situation in Atlanta, but come on Mighty Hornet, it ain't like the Falcons sell out every year. This is not smack either bruh. Everybody knows Atlanta's fans are as fairweather as they come in any sport, and when Vick got hurt last year, it showed how many people were actually Falcon fans, and how many were Vick fans.
Say what you will about the Saints, because I know you will, but Saints fans are as loyal as they come, and this is the first time in years, that they didn't sell out every game, and that was mainly do to the fans rebelling against Haslett.
It wasn't that long ago, that your only sell out was when the Saints came to town, with more than half the stadium being Saint fans.
I know you're happy about the Falcons success, but don't fool yourself pottna.
NICE
Say what you will about the Saints, because I know you will, but Saints fans are as loyal as they come, and this is the first time in years, that they didn't sell out every game, and that was mainly do to the fans rebelling against Haslett.
It wasn't that long ago, that your only sell out was when the Saints came to town, with more than half the stadium being Saint fans.
I know you're happy about the Falcons success, but don't fool yourself pottna.
NICE
Da_Sperm
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Blank said it himself that he had to lower the ticket prices in order to sellout the games because they were blacked-out in Atlanta. With the games being blacked out, interest in the Falcons was steadily declining. Owners around the league were very upset with him lowering season tickets to $100 because the NFL has revenue sharing, and it affected everybody's pay.
Oh, for arguments sake McNabb is the best black QB. Stats aside, dude just knows how to win, and I'll take that anyday over stats, pretty passess, and a stronger arm.
It wasn't that long ago that Philly had a dominating defense, and Randall Cunnigham couldn't take them past the first round. Philly's defense is not as dominating as that late 80's, early 90's defense, but the offense's are just as comparable, and Donovan is the reason. I like Dante, and I'll admit his coaching situation, and defense sucks, but truth be told, when it's time for him to make a play he can't, and doesn't.
He had several chances in both games against Philly this year, and didn't do it. Schit, in the first game he turned the ball over 3 times in the redzone against them.
Again, no knock on Dante, Donovan is just a better playmaker when it counts.
NICE
It wasn't that long ago that Philly had a dominating defense, and Randall Cunnigham couldn't take them past the first round. Philly's defense is not as dominating as that late 80's, early 90's defense, but the offense's are just as comparable, and Donovan is the reason. I like Dante, and I'll admit his coaching situation, and defense sucks, but truth be told, when it's time for him to make a play he can't, and doesn't.
He had several chances in both games against Philly this year, and didn't do it. Schit, in the first game he turned the ball over 3 times in the redzone against them.
Again, no knock on Dante, Donovan is just a better playmaker when it counts.
NICE
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Listen up maggots! And that's an order!
Da_Sperm said:
Sperm,
That's a damn shame calling the Falcons Baltic and Mediterranean Aves (the purple property past GO and calling the Coybows Park Place/Boardwalk. But it's a pretty good analogy I must say and funny :goof:
You're right there usually be like 30,000 Cowboy fans in Wichita Falls for summer camp, in that God-awful 100-plus degree Texas heat.
D-NICE you're right too..
Despite the horrible play of the Saints, the dome is usually packed with depressed, drunken Saints fans...
and didn't Daunte lead the league in fumbles this past season?
JR
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D-NICE said:
Ok Nice, lets look at it this way. Donovan had 5 ints in the last 3 NFC title games. So would you say he didn't make plays? Also like GR said, Donovan is in a no risk offense. The West Coast is an efficient offense and a great one when you have great players at the skill spots. Duante has been in a high risk, high reward type of offense. You called out one game that he had against Philly or maybe both against Philly. But did he not make plays against Indy and GB when his sad defense let him down. What I am saying is that Philly's defense keeps the game close enough for Donovan. Donovan has not had to go on a 3 Td campaign to win a game. Duante has. albeit he has had kickers kick a last second field goal 3 times this year. We can't compare him in the playoffs because again, his team can never get there. No fault of his. He is the same boat Peyton is in. They will never win until they get a defense and in Daunte's case a owner, coach, etc..... I am rooting for McNabb in the SB, but don't be shocked if Bellichek makes him beat NE. If he does then we will see if he can. I hope so. But Donovan had an easy playoff run this time. No Tampa Bay defense. No St. Louis Defense on the road and no Carolina type defense. While Atlanta's defense was decent. They were not as good as the last 3 teams Donovan's has faced.
Maybe when we get the new ownership after the SB, Minnesota will finally get some folks in here to help Culpepper on the sideline and on the field. Then we will have an accurate judgement on him. You heard the announcers say what a great organization Philly is. That goes a long way for your success on the field. Minnesota is far from that. Much to my chagrin.
Journalist
Listen up maggots! And that's an order!
JR said:
Great counterpoint JR...I still say the greatest asset to McNabb's success and Philly's was not TO, but a healthy Bryan Westbrook. He rushed for 800-900 yards and caught 70 passes for over 700...he's the cog of this offense...that's something Donovan didn't have in those last three NFC title games.
Culpepper's Westbrook, IMO, is Mwelde Moore (you remember him gashing us when we played Tulane) but he's probably trade bait for a DL or DB. Before Moore got hurt he had damn near 400 rushing and recieving yards.
I think the difference is that everyone on that roster in Philly knows its Donovan's team while some may fell Daunte hasn't really took hold of that leadership role (I for one say he shoulda slammed Randy Moss a couple times). Next season is pivotal for Culpepper, he has to take the bull by the horns really assume the undisputed leader role.
We know Philly's the better ran organization. Red McCombs isn't doing anything for that team and damn near got beat down by former Gov. Jesse Ventura when he and the Twins owner cried about a new stadium. JR, isn't the guy that owns the Wolves talking about getting the Vikings.
JR
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Journalist said:
Yeah Glen Taylor of the T-wolves wants the team. Also a local car dealership owner Denny Hecker along with this brother from out West are talking about buying the Vikings. Tagilibue is putting pressure on Red to make a deal because he is not going to allow the Vikings to move. As soon as the team is sold, you will see a difference. The governor(Pawlenty) is for new stadiums. So that will not be an issue. The fans here love Glen Taylor cause he spent money on the Wolves and locked up KG for the long haul. One about Red, he did lock up Daunte and Randy. Now far as trades. I think Moss, Micheal Bennett and maybe Onterrio Smith will be the trade bait. Mewelde is already a fan favorite and he is cheap so he aint going no where. They will want to get rid of Bennett's salary. Plus Moss will bring them the most in return. What we hear is that the Raiders will take Moss and give us Philip Buchanon and the #7 pick. I will take that in a minute. I would rather have Woodson for his size and physical ability, but Buchanon is younger and is fast. Then the number 7 pick could be for a WR to replace Moss or they could go with another Defensive pick. Either way the Vikings will be sitting good this year. Bennett may be traded to Arizona for a pick or a player. Denny Green is said to be interested in him and Travis Henry of Buffalo.