SWAC parity?


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TRU3000 said:
TOTAL BS!!!

could we clarify this first though..you nor anyone from Jsue speaks for everybody in the SWAC...

u seem to believe just because you throw some frivilous comment out there it is SWAC gospel!!!!

why??? i dont know...
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ME?? :lmao: It is not just me. Why you want to make it seem so is crazy to me. Again, you can go to every board on BCF on the internet and see the same sentiments. Again, you were not mentioned at a top ten in the last decade by SEVERAL posters from SEVERAL schools. 1-AA voters did not and will not vote for you. Coincidence? I think not. If we had such disdain for non Big 3 three champs, we would be saying the same things about Alcorn and AlaState. AlaState (1990, 2004) produced one of the best championship teams in the history of the conference (1990) and another good one in 2004.
 



i didnt say anyone was picking on AAMU! you keep insinuating that to be the case lol

but its mighty funny the people who have the most to say havent won a title in 10 years...lol thats what im sayin!
 
TRU3000 said:
i didnt say anyone was picking on AAMU! you keep insinuating that to be the case lol

but its mighty funny the people who have the most to say havent won a title in 10 years...lol thats what im sayin!
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No, you all keep insinuating that these things are ONLY being said because it AAMU that we are talking about.

Also, 10 years have nothing to do with this. We had teams that DIDN"T win titles that were better than yours and these teams were in the last 10 years. You act like the last 10 years, JSU has been a doormat...that was only the case 3/10 years and we ain't too far removed from your wondering if you would EVER beat JSU since joining the SWAC.

Also, you best believe that is we win the championship on a down year, we will say it. JSU is very critical of our program. That is why we fire coaches with 65-70% winning percentages and you give them raises.
 
As I travel across the country wearing my big arse championship ring, nobody ask about a down year. They admire the ring I am wearing. But in response to them I say we are looking for another one this year. They don't asked about being in the top 25, what they do know is that we won a conference championship which many schools have yet to do. And I try to give them a history of AAMU the best football school in the SWAC for the last ten years. I guess it how one was raised in how they see things.
 
mighty hornet said:
ummm that day is now for the Bamas.

and save the diversion, the history speaks for itself.
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When the divisions were formed, I thought Jackson had it easy. I felt that their only competition would have been from Alcorn. Bama State was struggling under Dickerson I believe and A&M was kinda small by typical SWAC standards. But fate stepped in with the untimely illness and death of Coach James "Big Daddy" Carson who I think was on the verge of really big things at JSU. Remember that the 1999 team had 3 first round draft picks and on top of that the top qb and rb in the league. Hughes had a good season, but we all know that Carson most likely would have gone undefeated with that type talent. Here's where "I" (just me) think that JSU made a bad decision--Hughes instead of LC Coles. LC Coles goes to Bama State and the HOBO exposes Hughes (who still had talent)...that same talent that was stifed by JBell. Now JSU has a good coach so we will see if they can finally deal with the Bamas. It's gonna be competitive, but that's gonna be a three way dog fight for a long time.

Grambling will be waiting! :D
 
Panthro said:
The days of yesteryear are over folx. The cellar dwellers have put forth the effort to 'shine' yet some want to downplay as "a down year in the SWAC" recently. Exactly what is that? lol :lol: A down year in the whole conference? :lol: I guess that's the exact same logic other ACCers used to downplay Wake's turnaround. Guess people never thought to look @ the talent across from them to know that maybe.... just maybe that team was more talented and had better coaching during that particular moment in time?

I think this fall is going to be a great surprise to a lot of folx. :) It's quite natural to assume that quite a few folx will <b>attempt</b> to downplay and call it a "down year" in the SWAC. In all <b>factuality</b> lol, it won't be a down year. Maybe... just maybe it will have something to do w/ superior coaching and superior talent @ this present date in time. Look across the ball and admire. I don't seem to recall saying it was down year when SU had those recent championships and were HIGHLY ranked in the national polls. Ditto for Grambling and their stretch starting this current millenium.

Congrats to Bama A&M on the 2006 championship and UAPB for taking the SWAC West crown! Good luck to all SWAC teams this fall. Except when you face our PV Panthers....because <b><font color=purple>WE ARE........</font></b>
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I take it you went to PV. :lol:
 
Not true MB on AAMU, your assessment is wrong. I know people did not take us seriously when we talked about winning championships. We made a commitment to win and many people joined our program. Windsuits, travel, tailgating and those things were done to create excitement in developing our program. No expenses were spared; what was needed we did it. We had some bumps in the road but the commitment was there. As with any program you have some who are part of you and those against you and don't want to see things moving in the right direction. I don't know what the future hold but we had a great time over the last ten years. All teams have shown great improvement over the years since we joined the SWAC.


QUOTE=MikeBigg;1254136]When the divisions were formed, I thought Jackson had it easy. I felt that their only competition would have been from Alcorn. Bama State was struggling under Dickerson I believe and A&M was kinda small by typical SWAC standards. But fate stepped in with the untimely illness and death of Coach James "Big Daddy" Carson who I think was on the verge of really big things at JSU. Remember that the 1999 team had 3 first round draft picks and on top of that the top qb and rb in the league. Hughes had a good season, but we all know that Carson most likely would have gone undefeated with that type talent. Here's where "I" (just me) think that JSU made a bad decision--Hughes instead of LC Coles. LC Coles goes to Bama State and the HOBO exposes Hughes (who still had talent)...that same talent that was stifed by JBell. Now JSU has a good coach so we will see if they can finally deal with the Bamas. It's gonna be competitive, but that's gonna be a three way dog fight for a long time.

Grambling will be waiting! :D[/QUOTE]
 
Frat it wasn't as much an assessment as it was an opinion. However, I didn't mean it as a slight. In fact, I underestimated your defense their emphasis on speed paid dividends in the early years. All of the games against Grambling were close and low-scoring. Yall kinda got away from that since Cooper left...now it's more blitzing. To me yall were better dropping into coverage and bring pressure with your quickness up front.

Like I say though... I give yall props because you guys wear the crown. It's up to us to get it back since we had it last before you. We'll find out early enuff on that though... Sept 22nd will be here before you know it. :lmao:
 
CEE DOG said:
Kick off is in 3 days. We shall see who is contending or pretending.
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I got yall winning this week end. I like the energy that A&M's defense brings...not ever short on effort. Plus yall got Luke at qb and he's a good player. Kinda restricted by the system but I look for him to make plays when they present themselves. What I like about him is that he makes quick reads if and when yall let him pass. He looks long, checks the dump off area, tucks and runs. A simple progression but he doesn't put the offense in long yardage... a good strategy. But what puzzles me is why control the game offensively only to put your defense at risk by coming back and blitzing. Just seems contradictory to me... however it worked last year. We'll see on the 22nd.
 
MikeBigg said:
Years ago...my oldest son (was 18 or 19 at that time) was discussing SWAC football and the talent that's in the league. He said..."Dad, the SWAC still has talent on the field, but the coaches gameplan too much off athletic ability and not based on execution". I pressed him further and he said "The SWAC is a skill position conference... all the emphasis is on the big play instead of a series of small small plays to keep the chains moving and manage the clock".

I thought about that and I remembered the Eddie Rob coached teams of my youth and college days. Coach killed people with those 3 and 4 yard gains by the fullback, a quick outside run or two by the tailback, a counter with the wingback ang finally coming back off the same look and throwing a pass for a big gain or score. People ranted and raved about the big passing plays (and they were important) but it was the steady progression down the field that made the GMEN hard to defend. Same thing with Pete when he first came into the league... his teams were fundamentally sound --run game, intermediate passes, and a defense geared to make you have to drive down the field. That last aspect was key because the SWAC had become a "big play" oriented league... Pete limited a team's big plays by controlling the tempo and defending to make sure your third down play was third and long. As frustration mounted...offenses pressed more and more and played right into Pete's hand. But he got "swacified" and changed his offense to the "racehorse" style that became in vogue. I think he and others are going back to a more conventional offense geared to emphasizing execution as opposed to excitement. Don't get me wrong...we will always have big plays in this league because we do recruit good skill position folk. But we just need to learn not to force things... win by getting the most out of each possession while forcing your opponent to dig a deeper hole by going for the big play.
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From your lips to God's and Pete's ears ....... PLEASE!
 
MikeBigg said:
I got yall winning this week end. I like the energy that A&M's defense brings...not ever short on effort. Plus yall got Luke at qb and he's a good player. Kinda restricted by the system but I look for him to make plays when they present themselves. What I like about him is that he makes quick reads if and when yall let him pass. He looks long, checks the dump off area, tucks and runs. A simple progression but he doesn't put the offense in long yardage... a good strategy. But what puzzles me is why control the game offensively only to put your defense at risk by coming back and blitzing. Just seems contradictory to me... however it worked last year. We'll see on the 22nd.
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I agree with you. Sometimes I understand Grams mentality of keep killing when you are up.
 



CEE DOG said:
I agree with you. Sometimes I understand Grams mentality of keep killing when you are up.
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To be honest, that was more the case with Spears and Coach Robinson...but for some reason it wasn't done the same. Rob never shut down his offense either, but he subbed early when possible. Now Doug on the other hand wasn't really into blowouts. He tried to run the clock out late in the fourth quarter and not let you get the ball back...and if you got caught peeking, he'd take a shot in the endzone to back you up.
 
MikeBigg said:
To be honest, that was more the case with Spears and Coach Robinson...but for some reason it wasn't done the same. Rob never shut down his offense either, but he subbed early when possible. Now Doug on the other hand wasn't really into blowouts. He tried to run the clock out late in the fourth quarter and not let you get the ball back...and if you got caught peeking, he'd take a shot in the endzone to back you up.
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Very, very precise! :tup:
 
MikeBigg said:
When the divisions were formed, I thought Jackson had it easy. I felt that their only competition would have been from Alcorn. Bama State was struggling under Dickerson I believe and A&M was kinda small by typical SWAC standards. But fate stepped in with the untimely illness and death of Coach James "Big Daddy" Carson who I think was on the verge of really big things at JSU. Remember that the 1999 team had 3 first round draft picks and on top of that the top qb and rb in the league. Hughes had a good season, but we all know that Carson most likely would have gone undefeated with that type talent. Here's where "I" (just me) think that JSU made a bad decision--Hughes instead of LC Coles. LC Coles goes to Bama State and the HOBO exposes Hughes (who still had talent)...that same talent that was stifed by JBell. Now JSU has a good coach so we will see if they can finally deal with the Bamas. It's gonna be competitive, but that's gonna be a three way dog fight for a long time.

Grambling will be waiting! :D
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Exactly. However, the BAMA's won't be able to handle Comegy once this thing gets rolling. That's just life.
 
Honestly TP....

Do you not see what you arte saying or are you just trying to sound like you know what the hell you are talking about? Dude, you are really making some ignorant comments and I can see you don't even know that you are doing it.

:smh:
 
Mike said:
Honestly TP....

Do you not see what you arte saying or are you just trying to sound like you know what the hell you are talking about? Dude, you are really making some ignorant comments and I can see you don't even know that you are doing it.

:smh:
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Thanks for caring about how I look Mikey. So help me out and list the ignorant comments that I made so I don't make the same mistakes. I will be waiting. Also, I ain't the only one so ............. I don't think that ALL of BCF could be wrong.
 
STRAWDOG said:
Believe it or not EVERY University within the SWAC has some very talented athletes. We may not know their names until we play them or they may not have been recruited out of H.S by any D1-D1AA or DII schools for that matter.
Robert Mathis was only recruited by AAMU....he never got a letter, a visit or a phone call from any other school..........but dam when he showed up as a freshman, the rest of the teams in the SWAC and the SEC found out quickly who he was and they found out he could play! UGA tried all they could to get him to transfer and come back to the State of GA.
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Do yall have anyone else other than Robert Mathis to harp on? All I hear about is mathis this, mathis that, but who else over the past few years made it to the NFL from aamu?
 
So much for SWAC parity. Should be SWAC "parody" because the smack on a serious topic is truly unparalleled. :smh:

Good luck to the SWAC OOC.
 
no parity in some areas...some programs never take a nosedive in the commissioner's cup standings as funding is constant while some will be great in cycles...
 
MikeBigg said:
When the divisions were formed, I thought Jackson had it easy. I felt that their only competition would have been from Alcorn. Bama State was struggling under Dickerson I believe and A&M was kinda small by typical SWAC standards. But fate stepped in with the untimely illness and death of Coach James "Big Daddy" Carson who I think was on the verge of really big things at JSU. Remember that the 1999 team had 3 first round draft picks and on top of that the top qb and rb in the league. Hughes had a good season, but we all know that Carson most likely would have gone undefeated with that type talent. Here's where "I" (just me) think that JSU made a bad decision--Hughes instead of LC Coles. LC Coles goes to Bama State and the HOBO exposes Hughes (who still had talent)...that same talent that was stifed by JBell. Now JSU has a good coach so we will see if they can finally deal with the Bamas. It's gonna be competitive, but that's gonna be a three way dog fight for a long time.

Grambling will be waiting! :D
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Did somebody say LC Cole? Carry on.
 
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