Status of UAB vs SU
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thegooddoctor
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This is how it went down>
SU and APB were originally scheduled to play at Pine Bluff on Oct. 2.
APB has a contract to play a home game in St. Louis on that playing date. They ask SU to play them at St. Louis. SU agreed only if APB assumed the extra travel costs involved. APB for some reason declined.
SU said then they would only play in Pine Bluff. APB then got AA&M to play in Oct. at St. Louis.
I think there is some sort of policy that prevents SU from playing in Nov. the week before the Bayou classic. The only time SU played the week before the Bayou classic was because of 911.
Really, APB would probably make more if they palyed SU in St. Louis since SU always has a large following on the road. Even if they agreed to the extra travel cost they couldn't find another team with the number of followers the jaguar nation has. Pete has said there won't be a Nov. game with APB. The commissioner has his work cut out. :argue:
SU and APB were originally scheduled to play at Pine Bluff on Oct. 2.
APB has a contract to play a home game in St. Louis on that playing date. They ask SU to play them at St. Louis. SU agreed only if APB assumed the extra travel costs involved. APB for some reason declined.
SU said then they would only play in Pine Bluff. APB then got AA&M to play in Oct. at St. Louis.
I think there is some sort of policy that prevents SU from playing in Nov. the week before the Bayou classic. The only time SU played the week before the Bayou classic was because of 911.
Really, APB would probably make more if they palyed SU in St. Louis since SU always has a large following on the road. Even if they agreed to the extra travel cost they couldn't find another team with the number of followers the jaguar nation has. Pete has said there won't be a Nov. game with APB. The commissioner has his work cut out. :argue:
Jafus (Thinker)
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D@mn!!
G Lion
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thegooddoctor said:
Uapb has played in St Louis on the last weekend in Sept. for a number of years now and is scheduled to play A&M on Sept. 25 this year. Last year Uapb played Southern on the 1st weekend in October (Oct.4) you would think the same date would have been reserved for this year which is Oct.2
G Lion
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thegooddoctor said:
I don't have any inside knowledge from our AD but the more I think about it I seriously doubt Uapb would have wanted to move a home game with southern to St. Louis, why would they give most of the money away to the promoter of the Gateway Classic, when they could get it all if they played in Pine Bluff or Little Rock??
MACHIAVELLI
Chairman/C.E.O.
Thought I would chime in on this.
Are you confusing practice with policy?
thegooddoctor said:
Are you confusing practice with policy?
the band fan
Baseball Fan
Re: Thought I would chime in on this.
according to the Advocate, the game is off.....why is SU always in the middle of scheduling fiascos? They finally get McNeese and then they blow up again....
as for St. Louis..PV was one of the schools being considered to play there also but they were concerned about attendance...
SU gets to find another attractive opponent if possible....FAMU maybe? If they are playing a d-2 or so, they would be happy to buy out.
according to the Advocate, the game is off.....why is SU always in the middle of scheduling fiascos? They finally get McNeese and then they blow up again....
as for St. Louis..PV was one of the schools being considered to play there also but they were concerned about attendance...
SU gets to find another attractive opponent if possible....FAMU maybe? If they are playing a d-2 or so, they would be happy to buy out.
JR
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Fiyah said:
Sounds like the SWAC has said we can drop the PB game. I hope this all gets fixed next year. Why PB wanted to play SU in St. Louis when they could have just played us in Ark on Sept 25th. Heck we even moved the Bama St game to accomadate, which means we had to ask Bama State to approve since it is their home game this year. I can't even be mad for Kerr and Richardson not wanting to accomadate the game on Nov 20th. The only way we play on that day is someone ever decided to move the BC up a week and we know that aint happening. Oh well what a Fiasco. Just think what happens since SU has only 3 west games that count. I guess the one East game will have to count for us as SWAC game as well as a West game for tie breaker purposes. SMH@our conference. Hopefully we can play somebody Sept 25th that is decent.
Jag Voice
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It's solved. The teams will not play just like JSU and TSU will not play. IMO, being in the same division doesn't mean anything since 7 games count against the division tite anyway. This would only be an issue if only division games counted in the division race.
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SU, UAPB will not play in football
Southern and Arkansas-Pine Bluff, despite being in the same division, will not play each other in football next season.
The unprecedented decision, OK'd by the Southwestern Athletic Conference's Council of Presidents during a conference call Wednesday, got handed down this week.
The problem came about after the schools could not find a mutual date for their game. The canceled game was to be UAPB's home game.
"We do have the official approval from the conference that there will be no penalties, no fines," Southern Athletic Director Floyd Kerr said. "We're excused from playing the game
http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/043004/spo_suftball001.shtml
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SU, UAPB will not play in football
Southern and Arkansas-Pine Bluff, despite being in the same division, will not play each other in football next season.
The unprecedented decision, OK'd by the Southwestern Athletic Conference's Council of Presidents during a conference call Wednesday, got handed down this week.
The problem came about after the schools could not find a mutual date for their game. The canceled game was to be UAPB's home game.
"We do have the official approval from the conference that there will be no penalties, no fines," Southern Athletic Director Floyd Kerr said. "We're excused from playing the game
http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/043004/spo_suftball001.shtml
mighty hornet
The HMIC!!
This is a bunch of CROCK!!!!!!!!!!
How in the world could the SWAC sanction two teams in the same division not playing each other??? Talk about no back bone!!!!!! :tdown:
and what is this mess about SU not being able to play the week before the BC? :tdown:
WHY??
How in the world could the SWAC sanction two teams in the same division not playing each other??? Talk about no back bone!!!!!! :tdown:
and what is this mess about SU not being able to play the week before the BC? :tdown:
WHY??
Robber
Consigliere
Lemme pull a semi-Get Ready right here. This just shows the utter incompetence and cowardice that is the SWAC front office. It's really sad that individual schools can simply step all over conference mandates without fear of repercussion. It is painfully obvious that they don't know what the hell they doing and have no backbone in dealing with schools. First JSU got over and now SU gets over. Next you're gonna have some other schools trying to get over. Then if the conference does try to be stern, the "you let them get away with this crap" card will get played and it's gonna become a bigger problem. SU mighta played that card in this situation.mighty hornet said:
The inmates are running the assylum and this conference is going NOWHERE fast. The way this followship is acting, I wouldn't be surprised if the conference folded within a coupla years.
Jag Voice
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In defense of Mr. Vowels, he inherited this problem because the original SWAC rules were suspect at best.
If you read the article, he has plans to solve this problem at the SWAC meetings. I totally agree with his plans. No one school should be able to move a conference game for their own benefit.
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In 2005, the conference will develop every (SWAC) schedule and date, and the schools will plug in their nonconference games," Vowels said. "We'll tell them when and where, so we don't have this issue anymore."
If you read the article, he has plans to solve this problem at the SWAC meetings. I totally agree with his plans. No one school should be able to move a conference game for their own benefit.
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In 2005, the conference will develop every (SWAC) schedule and date, and the schools will plug in their nonconference games," Vowels said. "We'll tell them when and where, so we don't have this issue anymore."
JSU/99
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That's going to create more chaos. Not letting the schools make their own schedule? That's asinine. What if they schedule a conference game that conflicts with an important non-conference game, like the Southern Heritage Classic. Ain't no way we're gonna give up that game to play a UAPB or Texas Southern. I just can't see all of the schools going for this.Jag Voice said:
Jafus (Thinker)
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Shaking My Head!!
Jafus (Thinker)
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Good!! Most conferences have a standard template for scheduling all conference games that take into consideration historic dates and long standing rivalries.
Deuce
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This is sickening.
Talk about totally getting punked. :smh: I have lost what little respect I had left for the SWAC.
And as far as the SWAC making all conference schedules, that's a joke. What if they schedule SU vs GSU in September, or Bama State vs A&M in late November, or JSU vs Alcorn in early October? Is it still a good idea?
Unbelievable.
Talk about totally getting punked. :smh: I have lost what little respect I had left for the SWAC.
And as far as the SWAC making all conference schedules, that's a joke. What if they schedule SU vs GSU in September, or Bama State vs A&M in late November, or JSU vs Alcorn in early October? Is it still a good idea?
Unbelievable.
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
Jag Voice said:
This is not going to work either. He can't just make up schedules like that. What if a Classic invite comes up (ie JSU-A&T in Atlanta in November of 2001, or a Circle City Classic invite in October.) This 9-game mandate is going to be problematic and we need to end this. Why can't we just be normal like other conferences. Pete is behind most of this. I hope no one else reads this article. It's embarrassing.
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