FAB5
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Too much like right '81...we tried explaining that fact last year, didn't register then nor now.
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Too much like right '81...we tried explaining that fact last year, didn't register then nor now.
IB4DemJags
HBCU's > pwcu's
Again....who cares what color the players are....the main thing is what they are representing....FAB5 and 81 that is where you miss it....
JR
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They won back in the day when everything was all white. LOL. I don't care if Ole Piss wins 10 BCS titles in a row. I will forever hate them mofos. Period. I do not care about them necks and their damn school in my home state. I will root for those black players to make it to the NFL and do well after the fact and hope they did get their paper from them mofos. But on Saturdays I want them to get their arses kicked for wearing that Ole Miss helmet. No harm to them. Just don't want them necks having anything to celebrate about.
Olde Hornet
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I do see 3 years where U of Miss did something but you are right - it was not in the life time most of the posters from Miss.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_National_Football_Championship
People try to use Ole Miss and MSU not being good as the reason why we dont like em. Nah fvck that, it wouldn't matter if they were national champs every year WDGAF about them schools. When will you BAMA's realize that sheesh? Dont use that as a reason to justify liking Bama and Auburn, thats just how are yall are over there. Hell I can make a case and say if Bama and Auburn was loser schools you BAMA's would still worship the grounds they walk on. Hell Bama and Auburn just started back winning, but you mofos still was jocking them schools. So miss me with that winning crap. We dont fool with them schools like that, like the people in Alabama do. We have enough history in our own schools to be proud of, TF we look like supporting Ole Piss and MSU?
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Frat they dont realize that, they want to use the fact that Ole Piss and MSU is sorry as the reason why. HELL WE GLAD, I always root against Ole Miss and most of the time MSU. I have never set foot on Ole Miss campus. Never had a reason to and the only reason I went to MSU was because of JROTC in High School or passing through headed to ATL from Greenville.
Storm96
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Its your right to support whomever you want but this right here makes no sense. I'd say that MOST FBS powers have several Blacks starting.
Dog81
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This is what you are missing...
"Brown vs Board of Education"
"Voting rights act of 1965"
"I have a Dream"
"Yes we Can"
"Forward"
These kids represent the opportunity to attend any university in the United States, the ability to vote for the candidate of their choice, to attend colleges that house blacks, whites, hispanics etc.., change, and most of all the ability to set and achieve goals at any institution in the United States. Until some of us move forward and digress from this backward thinking.......There can be no progress. Again, it is a choice.......... Remember, Dr. Martin Luther king had a dream.....Please don't turn the dream into a nighmare.
FAB5
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What they are representing is the fullfilment of what those who marched, argued in court and took beatings over knew...that given the same opportunity, their talents could take them as far as they're willing to work, whever they decided to work. On the biggest stage in college football where in 2 or 3 yrs. those talents will be further developed and make them multi-millionaires...yeah I'm going to hate on UA. :emlaugh:
Roll Tide :wavey:
IB4DemJags
HBCU's > pwcu's
Co-Sign.....10X
IB4DemJags
HBCU's > pwcu's
Dude the Dream and all those others was for "EQUALITY". So that yours would have what theirs had and of the same quality. The Dream was not to abandon your own or to give your best to the others....that's what is missed in the interpretation.
Sure civil rights was a big part of it. But it was so that you could but didn't have to go to theirs cause yours had the same or of equal value. Then those who chose to go to theirs, because they now could, get what they could and learn all they could and bring it back to theirs to help make it better. Sure everyone has the right to go anywhere they want (as long as you are accepted in the case of their things and that is if you can benefit them in some way), but tell me what happens when there are no more options and theirs is the only thing standing (monopoly). All the system tries to do now a day is take away or chip at the HBCUs across the country (trying their best to give them the look of being irrelevant in todays times). Those folk think long term while we can only focus on the here and now. We play right into the BS and our kids and our kid's kids will pay for our short-sightedness. Keep sleeping with the enemy and supporting the competition....you should be able to see how it is working out, but then again I guess you don't...
I beg to differ on what those kids represent....They really represent the Fiddlers of the world and worst case the Fantas (ROOTS references)....They may do well for themselves, but it hurts the whole in the big scheme of things....Sure some of them make it, but they all become recruiting tools for the PWCs they attended. I guess it depends on how far or deep you are able to see into things and I can't be mad at the ones of you who can't see the entire picture, but damn when someone is trying to hip you to the real you could at least open your mind to the concepts and logic that is being presented....that's all I ask...
The Dream is a nightmare when it is doing only a small portion of what it was intended to do and when half the folks who it was intended for don't really understand what it really was. So you telling me that it was intended for us to leave ours behind to go and enhance something or somewhere else. So you are telling me that in the grand scheme of things that our communities and our HBCUs are getting better off by going with the grain of the system...Wow what world do you guys live in??????????
IB4DemJags
HBCU's > pwcu's
See you only see half of the story...Year go and get from where-ever you have to get it from (This is for educational purposes, cause obviously you fail to realize that sports does NOT apply to this cause you can get the sports part at any University or College...the Black athlete benefits the University way more than the University benefits the Black Athlete)....But the rest of the story is, when you get it you are supposed to come back and give it to your community (all the knowledge and the know-how you gained) in order to bring yours up to par or at least equal to what they have. Tell the whole story, don't just stop at the part that makes your point and hope no one researches the rest to see that you were not quite accurate....
It is never going to be equal. Never. Those schools and conferences have far one reason: those people who support those major programs flat out care more than everyone else does. As a result, they spend and do whatever it takes. It's sort of sickening to a degree that those folks are invested that much in college football or basketball. But, it is what it is. And as long as they have the resources, the backing and the commitment, it's never going to be equal.
IB4DemJags
HBCU's > pwcu's
But Kendrick, we put in on it....that is what I am saying....there is a cycle and we just jump in it in rotation. For the most part we give them the talent and that draws the eyes which draws the dollars (ads and sponsorship) which gives them the resources to buy, fool, trick, persuade, us to give them more talent to do it all over again....
I understand that everyone else in the world has given up on this (not me just everyone else, lol) but just say the big time talent was at our HBCUs in today's world simply because they believed in recycling and building their own because that mindset had been taught and instilled in them over generations....well then under that situation ESPN would be more inclined to put on say a FAMU vs J-State, or a BAMA State vs Bethume, or an Alabama A&M vs South Carolina State, etc....You would agree that the people want to see the best of the best right, well if the best of the best were at their own schools then that is what would draw the TV ratings and the revenue and the HBCU would catch up and even pass the PWC in athletics....What I am saying is we controll where the money goes and how it is spent in a lot of instances especially in sports, but we don't understand the actual power we have....I guess you could call this a "True/Hypothetical" lol....
The toothpaste is out of the tube. That's all I gotta say. I always use the Negro Leagues as an example. The best black players, and arguably some of the best in the history of the sport, played in the Negro Leagues. When the color barrier was broken by Jackie Robinson, MLB teams raided the league of its talent. As a result, the league slowly died. All the best black players went to MLB teams.
The same situation is happening as it relates to this discussion. Once intergration came about, the best black athletes took their talents elsewhere. HBCUs as a whole is not going to die like the Negro Leagues did, but it will never go back to the way it once was either. The landscape of intercollegiate athletics and the attitude of society has changed so drastically that it will be tough to revert back to yesteryear.
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Dog81
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Wow! Outstanding response.
JROCK
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I understand what you're saying. This is something I have been looking at closely since the AAMU came in the league. However, something else is going on. The margin between the athletes we're getting has widened so much over the last 25 years until the viewing interests have changed also. It is very similar to what happen for the most part to the black business infrastructure as desegregation took place though on a slower scale. You may never pull for those Mississippi PWC but the demographics has probably been reversed for ever in terms of their athletes. I am also afraid that they are slowly eroding our market shares also particularly among the younger generation. I get what you're saying though.
JROCK
Preeminent
Yea, old boy nailed that one.
major095
ASU4real
I'm from Montgomery. Grew up watching walter lewis, andrew zow et al. I can't stand that school. Dude stood on the steps of that school before I was born to say blacks couldn't come to school there . I wish he'd struck a match and burned the place down to prove his point. in alabama as in most of our southern states they have done everything they could to keep aamu and bama state (hbcu's) down. they love their qb's at bama.....unless they are black. when they came to montgomery to play the hornets in basketball I heckled their players all night until I was horse. I don't care if they are playing China I will root against them.
I hope lawyer tillman lives forever!! ( i dont love auburn either, but I always hope they kick bama's behind!)
I hope lawyer tillman lives forever!! ( i dont love auburn either, but I always hope they kick bama's behind!)
IB4DemJags
HBCU's > pwcu's
I understand all of that...my point is that it is because of us that this is so....as long as we continue the supporting and pushing of our athletes to those schools the cycle will continue...that's all I'm saying...There is a way to fix it, but we have been taught, lead, and tricked into go in so many DIFFERENT directions and to think individually and not collectively, to look at things just in the short term and on the surface not the big picture and long term that it probably will never happen....anyway..carry on...
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wahines
1_gsufan
A lot of truth was said here that us modern blacks today just can't accept!
Killer Bees
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Oh trust me, you are not the only one. I was born and raised in Birmingham. I never gave a damn about Alabama or Auburn growing up, but my father loved Alabama football.
Killer Bees
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What part of the State is that located?