Poll: Should The SWAC Place Restrictions On Non-Conference Football Schedules?


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SU would have been easily in the playoffs over yall in 97. JSU got in the playoffs due to SU playing in the Bayou Classic, plain and simple.

Why is this an issue over how JSU went.
SU was not eligible and never wanted to make themselves eligible.
 
Just telling the truth. lol. Some feel obligated and some don't. Oh it wasn't an issue until TP saying crazy stuff like the NCAA needed and just wanted JSU in the playoffs when that is not the case. :read:
 



Just telling the truth. lol. Some feel obligated and some don't.:read:

The truth is it didn't matter where SU was ranked in 1997.
JSU would have went into the playoffs anyway being ranked #13 in FCS that year. I think SU was like #10 or #11.

The fact is that everytime JSU went to the playoffs except 1 year, we were ranked inside the TOP 16 teams in FCS. I think one year we got in being ranked #18 or #19.
 
All that's good but did yall win any games? That's what i'm saying. Even then the SWAC couldn't get pass the first round but people are crying playoffs and that's when SWAC football was much better. Crawl before you walk i still say. Glad you brought those points up so that my points were proven.:read:
 
yep.
SU last ranking in 1997 #11 and JSU was ranked #13 in the 1997 FCS polls.

So as you see, JSU didn't get into the playoffs because SU had to go to the BC. JSU got in because JSU was ranked high enough to make the field on our own as usual.

1997 1-AA Poll
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" align=center><TBODY><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>1. Youngstown State Penguins </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>13-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>2. McNeese State Cowboys </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>13-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>3. Delaware Blue Hens </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>12-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>4. Eastern Washington </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>12-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>5. Villanova Wildcats </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>12-1</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>6. Western Illinois Leathernecks </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>11-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>7. Western Kentucky Hilltoppers </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>10-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>8. Georgia Southern Eagles </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>10-3</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>9. Hampton Pirates </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>10-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>10. Florida A&M Rattlers </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>9-3</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>11. Southern Jaguars </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>11-1</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>12. Montana Grizzlies </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>8-4</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>13. Jackson State Tigers </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>9-3</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>14. Cal Poly Mustangs </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>10-1</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>15. Eastern Kentucky Colonels </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>8-4</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>16. North Carolina A&T Aggies </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>7-4</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
yep.
SU was ranked #11 and JSU was ranked #13 in the 1997 FCS polls.
So as you see, JSU didn't get into the playoffs because SU had to go to the BC. JSU got in because JSU was ranked high enough to make the field on our own as usual.

1997 1-AA Poll
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" align=center><TBODY><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>1. Youngstown State Penguins </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>13-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>2. McNeese State Cowboys </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>13-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>3. Delaware Blue Hens </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>12-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>4. Eastern Washington </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>12-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>5. Villanova Wildcats </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>12-1</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>6. Western Illinois Leathernecks </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>11-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>7. Western Kentucky Hilltoppers </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>10-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>8. Georgia Southern Eagles </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>10-3</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>9. Hampton Pirates </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>10-2</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>10. Florida A&M Rattlers </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>9-3</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>11. Southern Jaguars </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>11-1</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>12. Montana Grizzlies </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>8-4</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>13. Jackson State Tigers </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>9-3</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>14. Cal Poly Mustangs </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>10-1</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>15. Eastern Kentucky Colonels </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>8-4</TD><TR><TD class=TSN1 align=left>16. North Carolina A&T Aggies </TD><TD class=TSN1 align=middle>7-4</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

TP said JSU was ranked higher than SU, i guess you proved him a liar. Huh. BTW, ranked #13 and couldn't get pass the first round, not a good look and one continues to cry playoffs? PLEASE!:read:
 
All that's good but did yall win any games? That's what i'm saying. Even then the SWAC couldn't get pass the first round but people are crying playoffs and that's when SWAC football was much better. Crawl before you walk i still say. Glad you brought those points up so that my points were proven.:read:

Point is why cut out trying.
That up there you typed reeks of "giving up". That is what the SWAC leaders did...........GAVE UP, Tucked their big mouth and woofin' tails between their legs and ran like hell.

Crawl before we walk?
Whats the point of walking when we have decided to roll our azzes around in wheelchairs.
The only point that has been proven is the teams and fans in this conference are scared as hell to try. Only thing we good at are giving out half azz excuses as to why we gave up. :lol:

But like I said earlier...............BRING ON CONCORDIA!! :lol:
 
TP said JSU was ranked higher than SU, i guess you proved him a liar. Huh. BTW, ranked #13 and couldn't get pass the first round, not a good look and one continues to cry playoffs? PLEASE!:read:



That is the FINAL poll.
The poll AFTER the Championship game was played.
Guess I proved TP right and was not even trying too. :lol:

Look at the total games. JSU DROPPED in the polls when that final one came out because of our loss in the 1st round. We were in the top 10 when bids came out. And quit trying so hard to take digs at JSU for having the guts to try down my position on the playoffs. Trust me............I KNOW the half azz mentality of this conference. SCREW THE PLAYOFFS................YA'LL WON................LET IT GO...............JSU PLAYOFF RECORD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A TEAM THAT STOPPED TRYING. MY bad...........YT stopped ya'll from going. :lol:
 
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That is the FINAL poll.
The poll AFTER the Championship game was played.
Guess I proved TP right and was not even trying too. :lol:

Look at the total games. JSU DROPPED in the polls when that final one came out because of our loss in the 1st round. We were in the top 10 when bids came out. And quit trying so hard to take digs at JSU for having the guts to try down my position on the playoffs. Trust me............I KNOW the half azz mentality of this conference. SCREW THE PLAYOFFS................YA'LL WON................LET IT GO...............JSU PLAYOFF RECORD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A TEAM THAT STOPPED TRYING. MY bad...........YT stopped ya'll from going. :lol:

I have never grasped some of you peeps thinking. You would rather go to something just to be able to brag about going to it. When my team is apart of something i want them to win/be competitive. I'm not for embarrassments because HBCU teams get that year in and year out. YT didn't stop us from going, we are playing the most seen HBCU game on the planet and YT is pissed at that. YT makes you want to go to the playoffs to feel validated, i call that MEACIsh Validity. Until my team beats quality OOC teams i feel we don't need to think playoffs, if you like JSU getting embarrassed and humiliated on national tv to please YT, that's you. Tell you President that yall want to move to the OOC. It's in your proximity.:read:
 
I have never grasped some of you peeps thinking. You would rather go to something just to be able to brag about going to it. When my team is apart of something i want them to win/be competitive. I'm not for embarrassments because HBCU teams get that year in and year out. YT didn't stop us from going, we are playing the most seen HBCU game on the planet and YT is pissed at that. YT makes you want to go to the playoffs to feel validated, i call that MEACIsh Validity. Until my team beats quality OOC teams i feel we don't need to think playoffs, if you like JSU getting embarrassed and humiliated on national tv to please YT, that's you. Tell you President that yall want to move to the OOC. It's in your proximity.:read:

Have you not grasped the fact that the NO PLAYOFF CROWD...........YOU............WON? :noidea:

As for us moving, take the rest of the sorry azz schools that just want a team on campus just to have a team on campus, that are too scared to compete, and form a non-FCS HBCU conference that don't play for shat except bragging rights.

You can't grasp the mentality of a person that want to try, I can't grasp the mentality of negros that are too scared to even want to try. Don't want to compete but always woofin about how fugged up the playoff participating schools are.

And I see there is no need to continue talking to a stuck in reverse negro. You keep giving that lame azz line about somebody wanting YT to validate something. Like that is supposed to shame someone out of their thoughts in 2011. Out of touch, excuse giving negros..........MAN. :smh: YO AZZ IS THE ONLY ONE THAT KEEP BRINGING THAT TIRED AZZ "VALIDATION" LINE UP so you must be wanting YT's validation.............Not us.

And point blank.
On the grand scale..................NOBODY GIVES A SHAT ABOUT YOU PLAYING THE BAYOU CLASSIC. That game is on on a day when the sports landscape is bare. Put that game on RIVALERY WEEKEND and see how low the damm ratings go............IF THEY COULD GO LOWER.

You want to talk shat and all big and bad, try those facts on.
 
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20,000 for a playoff game in Memorial is more than 8 teams in the conference get for SWAC GAMES at home. We got between 14,000 and 20,000 for Boise State, Tennessee State, and Arkansas State when we hosted those 1st round playoff games so that is damm good as for attendance.
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yeah but the NCAA keeps 75% of the gate. ..AND you have to pay to host the game and you don't get that money back.
 
TP said JSU was ranked higher than SU, i guess you proved him a liar. Huh. BTW, ranked #13 and couldn't get pass the first round, not a good look and one continues to cry playoffs? PLEASE!:read:

Why is that a bad look? We played a team that ended up at #6 and we only lost by a TD. It was a good game. Nothing to hang our head about. Somebody had to lose. ...and 1.) Shannon blew the game in the first half when we were about to go into the half leading and 2.) The refs cheated their azzez off in the second half...blatantly and didn't care. Our players said they would call a phantom penalty and wink at them. :smh:
 
Have you not grasped the fact that the NO PLAYOFF CROWD...........YOU............WON? :noidea:

As for us moving, take the rest of the sorry azz schools that just want a team on campus just to have a team on campus, that are too scared to compete, and form a non-FCS HBCU conference that don't play for shat except bragging rights.

You can't grasp the mentality of a person that want to try, I can't grasp the mentality of negros that are too scared to even want to try. Don't want to compete but always woofin about how fugged up the playoff participating schools are.

And I see there is no need to continue talking to a stuck in reverse negro. You keep giving that lame azz line about somebody wanting YT to validate something. Like that is supposed to shame someone out of their thoughts in 2011. Out of touch, excuse giving negros..........MAN. :smh: YO AZZ IS THE ONLY ONE THAT KEEP BRINGING THAT TIRED AZZ "VALIDATION" LINE UP so you must be wanting YT's validation.............Not us.

And point blank.
On the grand scale..................NOBODY GIVES A SHAT ABOUT YOU PLAYING THE BAYOU CLASSIC. That game is on on a day when the sports landscape is bare. Put that game on RIVALERY WEEKEND and see how low the damm ratings go............IF THEY COULD GO LOWER.

You want to talk shat and all big and bad, try those facts on.

We aren't scared, we are just doing what is best for Grambling. You wouldn't understand, you don't play a game on the level of the Bayou Classic so i don't expect you to understand my stance. Seems that you are bitter about the Bayou Classic but that is expected. If the game wasn't bringing in money, it wouldn't be on tv i don't even have to go any further concerning the BC.:read:
 
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That is the FINAL poll.
The poll AFTER the Championship game was played.
Guess I proved TP right and was not even trying too. :lol:

Look at the total games. JSU DROPPED in the polls when that final one came out because of our loss in the 1st round. We were in the top 10 when bids came out. And quit trying so hard to take digs at JSU for having the guts to try down my position on the playoffs. Trust me............I KNOW the half azz mentality of this conference. SCREW THE PLAYOFFS................YA'LL WON................LET IT GO...............JSU PLAYOFF RECORD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A TEAM THAT STOPPED TRYING. MY bad...........YT stopped ya'll from going. :lol:

Right, SU rose in the polls because they beat GSU. JSU fell becasuse we lost to W. Illionis.

WOW! FIVE HBCUs in the top 16. Kinda surprised to see A&T there tho.
 



We aren't scared, we are just doing what is best for Grambling. You wouldn't understand, you don't play a game on the level of the Bayou Classic so i don't expect you to understand my stance. Seems that you are bitter about the Bayou Classic but that is expected. If the game wasn't bringing in money, it wouldn't be on tv i don't even have to go any further concerning the BC.:read:

Dude.
I don't GAS about the Bayou Classic one way or another. Have not been or wanted to go in decades. You can't even grasp or go back and read what people said. Every post I have to tell your no-comprehending, want to talk shat azz to go back and tell me when I said that?

Tell me when I said CANCEL the BC or that I was Bitter. Hell, what I was saying didn't have shat to do with the BC outside of making a new discussion about moving it back one week. But with you, any suggestion that has anything to do with the BC of off limits and someone is jealous of a damm meaningless regular season football game. But you got the nerve to tell others about what they want or need to do for their schools.

MAN................... Fugg the BC.
Just like everything that don't invole GRAM is no concern of yours, this game is no concern of mine. Ya'll could make $5 million off it and it still would not mean shat to me. That is your world. It don't have the meaning to me as it do with you.:lol:
 
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Right, SU rose in the polls because they beat GSU. JSU fell becasuse we lost to W. Illionis.

WOW! FIVE HBCUs in the top 16. Kinda surprised to see A&T there tho.

The 1999 year was pretty big too. TNST went into the playoffs ranked #1, FAMU made it to the quarter finals with an at large bid and N.C. A&T if memory serves me correctly upset the #1 team (TNST). Also, that year, JSU has two first round draft choices, S.U. won the conference title by beating JSU twice with a combined attendance of over 100,000, Hampton was ranked #1 in BCF going into the Circle City Classic and got beat by #2 S.U. and got revenge on S.U. by beating us in the Heritage Bowl..........1999 was an awesome year....
 
Dude.
I don't GAS about the Bayou Classic one way or another. Have not been or wanted to go in decades. You can't even grasp or go back and read what people said. Every post I have to tell your no-comprehending, want to talk shat azz to go back and tell me when I said that?

Tell me when I said CANCEL the BC or that I was Bitter. Hell, what I was saying didn't have shat to do with the BC outside of making a new discussion about moving it back one week. But with you, any suggestion meand someone is jealous of a damm meaningless regular season football game.

MAN................... Fugg the BC.
Just like everything that don't invole GRAM is no concern of yours, this game is no concern of mine. Ya'll could make $5 million off it and it still would not mean shat to me. That is your world. It don't have the meaning to me as it do with you.:lol:

Good, all of that said no one in the SWAC is ready for the playoffs so stop b-tching and moaning.
 
Good, all of that said no one in the SWAC is ready for the playoffs so stop b-tching and moaning.

The only Byotch and moan ho here is you.
Just admit you on your period and want to argue while others in the thread was actually bouncing around new ideas. :smh:
 
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Right. Now what level is that?

If you aren't from Grambling nor SU what is it to you? The fact of the matter is the Bayou Classic isn't stopping no one but SU and GSU from going to the playoffs if the SCG was canceled that's all you should be concerned with which majority of this thread has touched. Infatuation isn't a good trait. In fact it's a sin.
 
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