Pay Tithes or Get Shot- Creflo Dollar
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CEE DOG
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We can agree on one thing though, you definitely need God in your life. You are angry at him, and until you acknowledge that, you will always try to find fault in him. :tup: :lecture: The devil always find joy when he thinks the saints are not lined up. :idea:
JayRob
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Man, please. You're entitled to your opinion no matter how flawed. No need to be angry at religious fables, except when it's proven to be nothing but lies spread about as truth. Now THAT'S something to be angry at.
As far as this being call a "devil", then whomever he or she is, he's having joy 24/7 then, cause with Christianity and it's 33,000 plus denominations, seems like the "saints" won't be lined up anytime soon and perhaps never will.
dacontinent
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I will flip the script on you. Read verse 5 again and know where the commandment came from.
Answer: Numbers 18:21-24
Tithing was really a schoolmaster. We should be giving in the 20-30% range in the New Testament.
dacontinent
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Clearly not. You are a religious man and we do not agree.
ROYAL BLUE
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This is what my pastor teaches about tithing.
Arnold Murray Shepherd's Chapel chastises greedy preachers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9fl8jbFRk&feature=related
Greedy Pastors Tithes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IITxN62Jqok
JayRob
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I'm a religious man? I think not.
dacontinent
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The only way that you could possibly come to that conclusion is that you don't read your own posts.
The worst deception is in deceiving oneself.
JayRob
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Since you seem to know me more than I know myself, how am I religious?
dacontinent
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There is no way I am giving the devil nor JayRob that much credit.
dacontinent
Preacher
I only know of you what you post here on TSPN. And with that said:
Main Entry: re·li·gion
Pronunciation: \ri-ˈli-jən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Anglo-French religiun, Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back — more at rely
Date: 13th century
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
You, sir (like 99.9999999876% of the people in this world), are most definitely religious.
JayRob
TigaPaw
Cee Dog calls me an atheist (among other things:emlaugh
and you call me religious. Which is it? I may be spiritual, but I'm certainly not in the TRADITIONAL sense, religious.....nevertheless you're entitled to your own opinion regardless of how flawed it might be.
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dacontinent
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Cee Dog calls me an atheist (among other things:emlaugh
Answer: Both. Atheism is a religion.
JayRob
TigaPaw
Are you an atheist now? If not, why bring up the subject. Spiritualism and atheism are two different things.
As far as belonging to any religion, religious people have been known to "spin" more than the Bible. You can see it in even the minutest of arguments. 30,000 denominations speaks volumes in regards to how divided the Christian religion has become.
Dr H..
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RB
I don't care what Murrray teach -
"Religious" man I was thinking more in the way Paul uses religious in Act 17:22He uses the word deisedaimonestirous, from deido [deilos]to fear, and daimon[dimon] a demon, evil spirit: means demon-fearing, or given to the worship of demons. [inferior diety, evil spirit] “to fear dietyâ€
I don't care what Murrray teach -
"Religious" man I was thinking more in the way Paul uses religious in Act 17:22He uses the word deisedaimonestirous, from deido [deilos]to fear, and daimon[dimon] a demon, evil spirit: means demon-fearing, or given to the worship of demons. [inferior diety, evil spirit] “to fear dietyâ€
dacontinent
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For the record...I did not bring it up: You did. And you know that I am not an atheist by any stretch of the imagination.
Cee Dog calls me an atheist (among other things:emlaugh
Correct. Atheism is a religion and Spiritualism can be. I have never heard of a spiritualist who is not religious. I don't THINK that a spiritualist could be classified as not being religious. See the previously posted definition from the Merriam-Webster dictionary.
That is usually how religious distinctions manifest themselves.
ROYAL BLUE
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You may not care what he teaches, but you can't disagree with what he stated in reference to tithes either.
what did he say?
ROYAL BLUE
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My pastor answered a question about tithing in the 3 minute video below. He gave a 5 star answer to a question about tithing and love offerings.
Arnold Murray Shepherd's Chapel chastises greedy preachers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9fl8jbFRk&feature=related
dacontinent
Preacher
Don't lay on his neck like that, CEE. We want him to keep breathing.
okay
I guess people are stuck believing this 10% tithing thing cause mamma
and grandmamma use to talk about it, and preachers try to guilt trip you
into believing it applies to today, by quoting Malachi, but they never ask that preacher how come you don't guilt trip us about the other laws in the old testament.
I don't have time right now to post all the scriptures concerning tithing
but I will and dacon. you better get your Bible and what ever else you may need because I'm gonna show you and whoever
taught you if need be that tithing is NOT a command of God for us today.
Every time you say tithing you are discrediting Jesus' death and the whole New Testament
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