Only the Dems can snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory


Olde Hornet

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McCain will be the next President unless he goes nuts between now and November.

1. A Barack Obama adviser resigned Friday after calling rival Hillary Rodham Clinton "a monster."
2. Ferraro's Obama remark rocks Democrats as Miss. votes
3. Who ever wins, the others faithful will not vote for them
4. They will destroy each other by convention time.
5. Eliot Spitzer
6. God only knows what other scandal will show by this fall.

Out of their control:
7. Ralph Nader running
 
^^^ Sad but true. At first, I couldn't wait until November. Now, I'm beginning to dread the likely out come.
 



McCain will be the next President unless he goes nuts between now and November.

1. A Barack Obama adviser resigned Friday after calling rival Hillary Rodham Clinton "a monster."
2. Ferraro's Obama remark rocks Democrats as Miss. votes
3. Who ever wins, the others faithful will not vote for them
4. They will destroy each other by convention time.
5. Eliot Spitzer
6. God only knows what other scandal will show by this fall.

Out of their control:
7. Ralph Nader running

1. Only a sissy would worry about such nonsense

2. More evidence that Hillary's camp is fill with sexist racist bigots and Barack is sorely needed.

3. Barack will win and will beat McCain with one hand tied behind his back

4. The race is already over and only the clueless Clinton supporters don't know yet.

5. George Bush, Dick Cheney, Bill Cunningham

6. God only knows why some aren't happy unless they're miserable.
 
1. Only a sissy would worry about such nonsense

2. More evidence that Hillary's camp is fill with sexist racist bigots and Barack is sorely needed.

3. Barack will win and will beat McCain with one hand tied behind his back

4. The race is already over and only the clueless Clinton supporters don't know yet.

5. George Bush, Dick Cheney, Bill Cunningham

6. God only knows why some aren't happy unless they're miserable.


1. Why?

2. A little extreme but I get what you are saying.

3. Why?

4. I disagree - this is far from over. There are three big states and Hillary has a compelling argument as to why the super delegates should vote for her. She is winning states that the Dems must win and Obama has mostly won states where Dems have no shot to win. Obama's base american's youth and blacks are not known for voting. Historically they dont vote is large numbers. I know there were decent turnouts, but Texas showed that the excitement (ability to actually vote) among blacks maybe fading.

5. People love this stuff - doesn't matter what others did.

6. People love scandals, they have the power to turn elections.

7. No response? Do you not think he is not a factor? He will not pick up any votes from Reps. His votes will come from Dems and Indys.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...forget_the_democratic_dream_ticket_it_lo.html


Forget the Democratic dream ticket, it looks like a nightmare
Wednesday, March 12th 2008, 4:00 AM

SAN FRANCISCO - Sometimes it seems the Dolans run Madison Square Garden better than the Democrats run their party. Start with Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, who has already done the impossible in this primary campaign: make politicians in Florida look smarter than he is.

Dean and the rest of the party bosses are talking in earnest about "do-overs" in Florida and Michigan. The Democrats want to run the country and expected to run the country after two straight presidential elections they let George Bush and Dick Cheney and Karl Rove take from them like they were taking their lunch money. But they run their own primary system about as well as Hillary Clinton, the great problem solver, runs her own campaign.

Soon it won't be the outgoing President of the United States doing a clumsy tap dance in front of the White House - to go with seven years of tap-dancing inside - it will be John McCain.

For the time being, and for the foreseeable future, McCain gets a free pass as he doesn't just stand side-by-side with Bush, but begins his own run to the White House on the policies of the worst President of my lifetime, and yours.

Less than two years ago, after midterm elections that effectively put Bush's second term on the scrap heap of political history where it belongs, after the mandate they were going to use to change history, the Democrats are still arguing about their own process. This may all not be worth a thimbleful of spit in the end if the superdelegates decide the thing in Denver, at a convention Don Imus was saying the other day might end up making Chicago in '68 look like a Cub Scout meeting.

But between now and then, McCain can act as if he has taken the high ground by running on Bush's war in Iraq, running on economic policies that have record numbers of people in this country swallowed whole by their own mortgages and walking away from their own homes.

The Democrats should be running hard against all of that. You shouldn't be able to lose running against that.

Instead the campaign degenerates - and this is more Clinton's doing than Obama's, with a strategy that late in the game she seems to have ripped off from "There Will Be Blood" - into a debate about things that have nothing to do with actually getting the country back from Bush and Cheney. While it happens, the leaders of the Democratic Party seem to run in circles. They may have to go running back to Michigan and Florida, and you know how great things always work out for the Democrats when they let Florida decide.

'We're into the silly season," Barack Obama said at the last debate. It is all of that now, and that includes the media, which changes its coverage every couple of weeks and wildly overreacts when accused of something like going too easy on Obama. Perfect. Let "Saturday Night Live" set the debate now.

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I do think that the Democrats are chasing their tail around in circles with all this nonsense.

-Hillary should bow out
-MI and FL should sit down and in the next election vote out the State Leaders that moved the Primaries up.
 
I do think that the Democrats are chasing their tail around in circles with all this nonsense.

-Hillary should bow out
-MI and FL should sit down and in the next election vote out the State Leaders that moved the Primaries up.

That would be too right to do.
 
7. No response? Do you not think he is not a factor? He will not pick up any votes from Reps. His votes will come from Dems and Indys.

Nader is a non-factor, just like he was in 2000, despite how people try to spin it otherwise. It's just convenient to blame Nader and the 2.7% of the vote he got when the fact remains that Gore ran a horrible election, and failed to even secure his home state. I do agree that that the Democrats are slowly blowing the election, like I stated in another thread. By the time this process ends, especially if it goes past Pennsylvania, will leave both candidates in ruin and their respective supporters too bitter to support whoever the nominee ends up being.
 
Nader is the political joker that show's up every Presidential Election.
Dude need to go enjoy his fortune and stop fugging up the soup. :nod:
 
Might have to review number 2 now that his preacher's video is all over the net.

I still see self destruction coming down the pike.
 
Actually you all seem to be more bother by some of the things that's going on then do those who you're concern about that will be.

The bottom line is I'm not putting my faith in man to decide the faith of our country although ultimately that's who's going to decide which road we take.

God IMHO will more then make things clear for us to make the right choice in this election process (both primary and presidential race) and none of these things we as black people (some) are soooo worried about will have anything to do with it.

People will know the difference between right and wrong, good or bad and make their decision totally on whether or not they want to move on and become a better country or wallow in the same sest pool.
 
I say again.
Obama will go to the convention with the lead in popular votes and delegates.

If those Superdelegates decide to give thier votes to Hillary dispite Obama leading in every category, I'm gonna do my part to make sure the Demo's lose.

I will either sit this one out or vote form McCain just out of spite. :nod:
 



John McCain will be the next President as of right now. Something really drastic is going to have to happen.
 
McCain, Hillary, Obama, recession, Super Delegates, Florida/Michigan debacle..and troubles unknown....

We are at a moment of CHAOS!

The Bigger question is...

What is God Doing or Allowing to Happen?

We know he controls All..

Daniel 2
21. And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
22. He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.
 
Actually you all seem to be more bother by some of the things that's going on then do those who you're concern about that will be.

The bottom line is I'm not putting my faith in man to decide the faith of our country although ultimately that's who's going to decide which road we take.

God IMHO will more then make things clear for us to make the right choice in this election process (both primary and presidential race) and none of these things we as black people (some) are soooo worried about will have anything to do with it.

People will know the difference between right and wrong, good or bad and make their decision totally on whether or not they want to move on and become a better country or wallow in the same sest pool.

I cant speak for others in this discussion, I am not an Obama supporter, but I enjoy politics and enjoy having the discussion.

Americans in general are not bright people, knowing the difference between right and wrong and acting on it are two different things. Americans are more than willing to wallow in a cesspool, we have seen that for the past 7 years.
 
I cant speak for others in this discussion, I am not an Obama supporter, but I enjoy politics and enjoy having the discussion.

Americans in general are not bright people, knowing the difference between right and wrong and acting on it are two different things. Americans are more than willing to wallow in a cesspool, we have seen that for the past 7 years.

We shall see for sure but lets be clear it's the old guard (white males) that's more then willing to wallow in this mess, not Americans.
 
4. I guess I should have said destory themselves.

The pressure is getting to him.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...bama_tries_to_explain_that_good_.html?ref=rss

He said what?

Barack Obama suggested Thursday the "typical white person" - much like his grandma - fears black men on the street, prompting a quick backpedal from his aides, who conceded the senator's words may give the wrong impression.

During an interview on a Philadelphia radio station, Obama was asked about his candid remarks about his white maternal grandmother during an address on race relations Tuesday. In that speech, he said his grandmother confessed "her fear of black men who passed her by on the street."

"The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't," Obama told WIP Sports Radio.
 
I don't understand why they don't know what a "typical white person" is. Its the same as the "normal white guy" that Glen Beck or his guest used to describe Obama last year. Lets ask them about.
 
You might not take this gaff seriously, but European Americans are sensitive to this remark.


Now they're European Americans...mane they plain ole white folks like they been since slavery.

Now help me understand what them being sensitive (sensitive my azz some just need something to whine about) has to do with pressure getting to Obama.
 
Now they're European Americans...mane they plain ole white folks like they been since slavery.

Now help me understand what them being sensitive (sensitive my azz some just need something to whine about) has to do with pressure getting to Obama.

They've always been European Americans with more loyalty with their European brothers and sisters (Hitler and the Nazis) than Americans that have been Americans for more than 10 generations.
 
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