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Them fools go to sleep at night thinking about what JayRob posted!! :lmao:
That's probably why they couldn't clear this up in 4 YEARS because the folks at SU were too busy worried about JayRob.
LOL@ JROCK
NCAA officially bans Southern winter sports from postseason play
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Them fools go to sleep at night thinking about what JayRob posted!! :lmao:
That's probably why they couldn't clear this up in 4 YEARS because the folks at SU were too busy worried about JayRob.
LOL@ JROCK
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Bleedbluefan
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I read the article on the advocate and scrolled to the comments. One commenter said that Lafleur cut the compliance/apr jobs which left two years worth of academic info in the abyss....smh.
Blacknbengal
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LOL @ Jrock!!!
The way I understand it from the statements the NCAA and our AD have made... the data in question is the 2009 APR data that was submitted to the NCAA by SU. That data should have included records dating back up to 6 years (2003). For football and mens basketball, the info that was submitted caused us to not meet the APR standard and those teams were later banned for not meeting those standards (2009-2010, same year as JSU football ban). Obviously the data was incorrect or incomplete or both. If you recall, while our former AD was in office we had our 10 year NCAA review, and the NCAA had issues with the documents submitted by his office. We were given a conditional renewal at that time, and later the NCAA fully approved us after further review. Quite possibly, he fudged some information in order to get it done (my opinion only). Since then, SU has new coaches in both football and basketball, a new compliance officer, a new chancellor, registrar, and a new Athletics Director.
OK, in 2013 the NCAA came back to SU to do a more thorough audit of sorts to review the APR data from 2009. The NCAA does this with 30-40 schools every academic year, and plans to re-visit all Division 1 schools within the next 3-4 years. When they came back, they didn't find what they were looking for. I seriously doubt the records were adequately kept at all during those years (leading up to 2010) before our NCAA 10 year review.
In essence, the new, current SU administration might not have even known there was a previous data issue because the data was never requested until 2013. It is equivalent to one of us starting a new job, then 2 years later being asked to provide detailed information about a project that ended 3 years before we got the job. If the previous guy in your position kept good records, we'd be fine, but if not, the company is in hot water.
Blacknbengal
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So J4L, is it correct to say that your previous AD lied on the paperwork to get you guys off the ban back in 2009? And if so, do you think you all should have remained banned until the paperwork was filed/done correctly to the NCAA's satisfaction?
buckwheat
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True! Damn SU! Let's get it together.
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J-State2DaPoint
"Eye Of The Tiger"
They knew what they were getting into when they enrolled at SU.
Lafleur did a number on southern. Left a dead end paper trail on all of their academic records, got fired by the school because of prostitution, ends up being not guilty and southern has to shell out 150k to him. He is in the clear now and su has to clean up his dirty work. Is Lafleur prophetic? Did he know that su was sinking ship back in 09?
Bleedbluefan
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Who Is Yall?
Can't say that with certainty. He had poor paperwork when we GOT banned. We do know that much as proven here.
Yes he knew because he's the one who blew the hole into the boat.
usa today
Sgt Backfire
Whoever wishes bad on their fellow HBCU'S aka the pathetic coonish black people. That's who i'm talking about.
Well sign your name on the list because you mofos quick to laugh when JSU fails. You put anything negative about JSU on here and it gets to 10 pages fast filled with BS. Anything dealing with the good of JSU people choose to ignore it. Prime example would be the threads about JSU in On The Yard, you can't get them threads to even go 2 pages. We don't support each other at all, so miss me with that BS you talking. It aint our fault su is this position....
Blacknbengal
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Yeah, that left me with a good question. How many of those kids would have enrolled at su if they would have known that su should have been banned from the beginning?
coldsweat
Drink & Be Merry!
LOL @ JROCK. :lmao: :lmao:
Blacknbengal
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And this is coming from the "Milk Man" (sorry D-Nice).
coldsweat
Drink & Be Merry!
But see, here's where this stuff gets tricky. All these systems/databases are electronically based, so it shouldn't be hard to pull records from the last 10 years or so. (That's if, everything was getting properly documented!) The problem seems to stem from (inaccurate records) or just putting in blatant, discrepancies in reporting. Either SU had the records and they proved they shouldn't have been eligible or off probation to begin with, or SU is saying they don't have the records yet, because it would involve them "sweeping them/editing" to prove they are eligible which would be another serious violation.
The point here is that how can the proof of records not be available when all you need to have is records of graduation, enrollment, classes taken, G.P.A, previously submitted APR reports/requests, as well as documented timelines? This is getting really fishy and I bet this is not the end of it.
Tigerpride
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You either had the data/proof or you didn't. (This is a message from The Great One)
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