Must be a down year in the SEC


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What do these numbers bear? :lol: :emlaugh:

National Champions

2003 LSU
2004 USC
2005 Texas
2006 Florida
2007 LSU
2008 Florida
2009 Alabama
2010 Auburn
2011 Alabama
2012 ?

****If Alabama wins it will be an 80% championship ratio the last decade manned by 5 different SEC teams.****
 
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What do these numbers bear? :lol: :emlaugh:

National Champions

2003 LSU
2004 USC
2005 Texas
2006 Florida
2007 LSU
2008 Florida
2009 Alabama
2010 Auburn
2011 Alabama
2012 ?

****If Alabama wins it will be an 80% championship ratio the last decade manned by 5 different SEC teams.****

From the article:

So, if the SEC plays other conferences about even, why do SEC teams keep winning national championships?
That answer, of course, is the BCS and its corporate underwriters, who have created a reliable business model for determining national champions that is in all respects a self-fulfilling prophecy designed to protect its primary investment.

The BCS business plan works like this: preseason rankings typically include two, three, or four SEC teams among the nation's top ten, more than from any other conference. From the outset, this bias for SEC teams builds into the system a near insurmountable advantage.

Start the season with two of the top four teams being from the SEC, as was the case in 2010 with Alabama and Florida, and in 2011 with Alabama and LSU, and the conference is virtually guaranteed to be represented in the title game -- and this is an important point -- even if neither of those two schools end up winning the conference.
 



Leave my boy Beans alone. He is my Big Ten ally on this board. LOL. Yall be ganging up on him. But he speaks the truth on this one. If you are aligned with Jayrob on this subject.......well......just think about it Jrock. You are a smart Jag alum. Stay away from the SEC dark side. LOL.

JR, these SEC busters dont know what they're watching anyway. The SEC conference has taken a turn for the worst, but these SEC homers are holding on to it's "glory" days like some of the SWAC folks around these parts. They really havent understood that other conferences have actually caught up with the SEC by recruiting talent from the same places.
 
What do these numbers bear? :lol: :emlaugh:

National Champions

2003 LSU
2004 USC
2005 Texas
2006 Florida
2007 LSU
2008 Florida
2009 Alabama
2010 Auburn
2011 Alabama
2012 ?

****If Alabama wins it will be an 80% championship ratio the last decade manned by 5 different SEC teams.****

Why stop at 2003?
 
The person that wrote that article is going to be really upset next year.

Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, South Carolina, and Texas A&M are all going to be hovering around the Top 10 pre-season polls.
 
The person that wrote that article is going to be really upset next year.

Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, South Carolina, and Texas A&M are all going to be hovering around the Top 10 pre-season polls.

LSU defense may get ravaged by the NFL draft. All American Kevin Minter (teams MVP) has annouced his intentions to go pro. Mingo and Sam Montgomery may be headed that way also (the book ends are currently considering it). Eric Reid, the teams best DB supposed to be conveying his intentions today one way or the other regarding the draft. If they lose those 4 that could be a serious loss of top 10 equity for 2013. We'll see. That ball controll offense should be intact though.
 
LSU defense may get ravaged by the NFL draft. All American Kevin Minter (teams MVP) has annouced his intentions to go pro. Mingo and Sam Montgomery may be headed that way also (the book ends are currently considering it). Eric Reid, the teams best DB supposed to be conveying his intentions today one way or the other regarding the draft. If they lose those 4 that could be a serious loss of top 10 equity for 2013. We'll see. That ball controll offense should be intact though.

These teams reload.... they already have 4 and 5 star players waiting to play.
 
These teams reload.... they already have 4 and 5 star players waiting to play.

That we all agree on. LOL. Especially the defenses in the SEC just reload. It is harder to develop an offense if your Qb sucks. LSU issue will be if Mettenberger don't improve. I bet LSU fans didn't like hearing during the Sugar Bowl that the Bridgewater kid changed his mind about LSU because they were so enamored with Mettenberger. Bridgewater at LSU may have meant BCS title game. They will survive the NFL losses on defense. But they better figure something out at Qb. Especially with Bama being loaded next season and them Aggies bringing a lot of folks back.
 
That we all agree on. LOL. Especially the defenses in the SEC just reload. It is harder to develop an offense if your Qb sucks. LSU issue will be if Mettenberger don't improve. I bet LSU fans didn't like hearing during the Sugar Bowl that the Bridgewater kid changed his mind about LSU because they were so enamored with Mettenberger. Bridgewater at LSU may have meant BCS title game. They will survive the NFL losses on defense. But they better figure something out at Qb. Especially with Bama being loaded next season and them Aggies bringing a lot of folks back.

Bama won a national championship with an "average" qb.
 
Bama won a national championship with an "average" qb.

McElroy is in the NFL. He was above average. Saban just didn't have to throw the ball alot with them beasts at RB. Plus that Bama defense was full of NFL players. Mettenberger will not even get a look at the NFL at the rate he is going. Dude is way worse than McElroy. LOL. That cat had not lost a game as a starter until late in his Sr season at Bama I believe. He was not flashy. But dude handled his business. Same as Matt Flynn did at LSU when he was there. He managed the game like he was supposed too. Mettenberger struggles to do that. Not like LSU is asking him to throw for 300 yards or something. Just be accurate and throw the ball when needed. Saban has gotten that production out of his QBs. Les hasn't lately. McCarron is now looking like he could possibly be a NFL Qb in the future. I like his moxy and his game. He would be more prolific in higher octane offenses. Wouldn't shock me to see him drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round when he comes out.
 
McElroy is in the NFL. He was above average. Saban just didn't have to throw the ball alot with them beasts at RB. Plus that Bama defense was full of NFL players. Mettenberger will not even get a look at the NFL at the rate he is going. Dude is way worse than McElroy. LOL. That cat had not lost a game as a starter until late in his Sr season at Bama I believe. He was not flashy. But dude handled his business. Same as Matt Flynn did at LSU when he was there. He managed the game like he was supposed too. Mettenberger struggles to do that. Not like LSU is asking him to throw for 300 yards or something. Just be accurate and throw the ball when needed. Saban has gotten that production out of his QBs. Les hasn't lately. McCarron is now looking like he could possibly be a NFL Qb in the future. I like his moxy and his game. He would be more prolific in higher octane offenses. Wouldn't shock me to see him drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round when he comes out.

I never said McElroy was bad... I said average lol.
 



Leave my boy Beans alone. He is my Big Ten ally on this board. LOL. Yall be ganging up on him. But he speaks the truth on this one. If you are aligned with Jayrob on this subject.......well......just think about it Jrock. You are a smart Jag alum. Stay away from the SEC dark side. LOL.

I could give a rats ass if jrock agrees with me or not.:lol:. The Big Ten is only a couple of APR points ahead of an SEC conference that consistently kicks it's ass in two of the three major sports, football and baseball.

I graduated from Michigan State, but I'm not so biased that I can't see the forest for the tree.
 
I know you didn't say that he was bad. I was just saying he was better than Mettenberger is currently is all.

LSU should never have WAISTED a scholarship on Rivers at qb. I saw him play in high school and thought he would end up at UNA or somewhere.... I wouldn't have even wanted him at AAMU. He was a much better basketball player than football player.
 
McElroy is in the NFL. He was above average. Saban just didn't have to throw the ball alot with them beasts at RB. Plus that Bama defense was full of NFL players. Mettenberger will not even get a look at the NFL at the rate he is going. Dude is way worse than McElroy. LOL. That cat had not lost a game as a starter until late in his Sr season at Bama I believe. He was not flashy. But dude handled his business. Same as Matt Flynn did at LSU when he was there. He managed the game like he was supposed too. Mettenberger struggles to do that. Not like LSU is asking him to throw for 300 yards or something. Just be accurate and throw the ball when needed. Saban has gotten that production out of his QBs. Les hasn't lately. McCarron is now looking like he could possibly be a NFL Qb in the future. I like his moxy and his game. He would be more prolific in higher octane offenses. Wouldn't shock me to see him drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round when he comes out.

No need to read any further.:smh::lol:
 
LSU should never have WAISTED a scholarship on Rivers at qb. I saw him play in high school and thought he would end up at UNA or somewhere.... I wouldn't have even wanted him at AAMU. He was a much better basketball player than football player.

LOL. I almost forgot Rivers was there. I didn't know he was that bad. But I think I remember you saying he wasn't all that during the recruitment of him. He must not be if he can't even get on the field the way Mettenberger has played at times. LSU screwed up when they pissed off Bridgewater and his Mom during the recruitment process. That QB from Indiana that ended up at ND should have kept his commitment to LSU. At this rate he will never see the field at ND if Golson keeps playing well enough.
 
No need to read any further.:smh::lol:

So how did McElroy make the NFL if he was below average college QB. Or even average. I know Dahill called him average. But dude played within the system that Saban had him in. Obviously he had enough upside that he made a NFL squad. Even got to play over Heisman trophy winning Tebow. LOL.

Just stay out of this one Jayrob. Everyone knows you ain't going to get to show too much as a QB in Saban's system. Wasn't like he was asked to win games. So folks consider him average at Bama because they don't showcase the QB. Even though McCarron has good stats, people don't consider him an all that QB because his numbers don't look like Johnny Football or some of these other QBs playing in more of a QB friendly offense. I know you got to understand that. Saban is just that way with his offenses.
 
I could give a rats ass if jrock agrees with me or not.:lol:. The Big Ten is only a couple of APR points ahead of an SEC conference that consistently kicks it's ass in two of the three major sports, football and baseball.

I graduated from Michigan State, but I'm not so biased that I can't see the forest for the tree.


That's too bad Jayrob. It is a lot of reasons to be more biased towards the Big Ten if you are an alum from one of their schools. I would go into it. But I will not waste my keystrokes.
 
Yet SEC dominance is a very recent phenomenon.
Since the inception of the BCS, the SEC has been crowned national champion 57.14 percent of the time. That's a stunning turnaround when compared with an undisputed national title rate of 10.42 percent over the half-century prior.
So what's behind such a radical shift in fortune, such a statistical improbability?
It certainly isn't on-field performance. Judging by inter-conference records -- that is to say actual games as opposed to media guesswork and bestowed rankings -- the SEC plays other BCS conferences about equally. Witness the record since the start of the BCS era in 1998:
The record is clear. In head-to-head match-ups against other major conferences, the SEC has either a combined losing record or one that's generally only a little better than even.

Though its teams are rarely given the opportunity, the Mountain West, not the SEC, has the highest winning percentage of any conference in BCS bowl games (.750), even though its teams travel further to play in BCS games than just about any others and with fewer supporting fans.

The SEC is better than other conferences at media manipulation and pretending that fiction is fact and fact is fiction. But as a top-to-bottom conference it is not better at football. The numbers bear that out.

http://www.thepostgame.com/commenta...sto-southern-secession-chuck-thompson-sec-bcs

Kendrick, this article is so skewed, I don't know where to begin.
--Over the past five years, the SEC has the edge over the Big Ten.
--When the SEC plays other schools out of conference, it's usually Kentucky or Vanderbilt playing against ranked schools.
--During bowl games over the last five years, similarly ranked teams have played and the SEC has the edge in winning those games.
Even in "down" years, the SEC still wins more bowl games.
--Against Big East schools in bowl games, it's usually the SEC's fourth or fifth best team against the Big East's number one seed, so that's not comparing like with like.

As far as pre-season rankings are concerned, it's all about recruiting rankings. If a school has several four or five star players signing up, they'll get credit by being ranked higher than schools not getting those players. That's logical. Has nothing to do with any conspiracy.
If the other conferences get off their butts and pay their coaches to recruit better, they'd have schools ranked higher too.
 
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That's too bad Jayrob. It is a lot of reasons to be more biased towards the Big Ten if you are an alum from one of their schools. I would go into it. But I will not waste my keystrokes.

Being honest is too bad?:noidea:
 
So how did McElroy make the NFL if he was below average college QB. Or even average. I know Dahill called him average. But dude played within the system that Saban had him in. Obviously he had enough upside that he made a NFL squad. Even got to play over Heisman trophy winning Tebow. LOL.

Just stay out of this one Jayrob. Everyone knows you ain't going to get to show too much as a QB in Saban's system. Wasn't like he was asked to win games. So folks consider him average at Bama because they don't showcase the QB. Even though McCarron has good stats, people don't consider him an all that QB because his numbers don't look like Johnny Football or some of these other QBs playing in more of a QB friendly offense. I know you got to understand that. Saban is just that way with his offenses.

JR come on man. Alabama won inspite of McElroy. As a matter of fact, he almost lost the game a couple of times. And being chosen over Tebow ain't saying much at all. The Jets just have a stupid GM, that's why he was fired. Need I say more?
 
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