Man the Eagles will cut a player in a heart beat

[JaguarNation99]

stagga,

Those are the 2006 Pro Bowl rosters, for the 2005 season. If you go here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16287024/) and look at the 2007 roster, you will see Trotter is nowhere to be found. You said it was a cap cut when he makes less than 3 million a year. The Eagles have tons of free cap space even without cutting him. What team would cut a pro bowl caliber player making that little when they have millions upon millions in free cap space? The fact is the Eagles saw in camp that his knees are shot, his lateral movement is pretty much gone, he's damn near playing bone on bone, it's a reason they're advising him to retire.

 

[staggalee83]

stagga,

Those are the 2006 Pro Bowl rosters, for the 2005 season. If you go here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16287024/) and look at the 2007 roster, you will see Trotter is nowhere to be found. You said it was a cap cut when he makes less than 3 million a year. The Eagles have tons of free cap space even without cutting him. What team would cut a pro bowl caliber player making that little when they have millions upon millions in free cap space? The fact is the Eagles saw in camp that his knees are shot, his lateral movement is pretty much gone, he's damn near playing bone on bone, it's a reason they're advising him to retire.

No.................Salary cap was nowhere in my mind.

My whole point was people go off calling players greedy, selfish, self-centered, not a team player, etc., when they hold out for money.

I never mentioned a cap, but cap or not, everybody alway's give these owners a free pass when they flat out cut a player THAT'S PERFORMING HIS DUTIES, without reguard for a signed contract.

Why is it the LAW don't matter for these owners, but a player will be sued and fined if he holds out against his contract?

I don't care if the player is making $1 million or $15 million.
Not his fault the OWNER over spent his budget.

 

[major095]

No, that was the pro bowl for the 2005 season he played in, and those are pretty much glorified popularity contests, he didn't make anybody's all pro team. I'll gladly point you to most recent pro bowl rosters. The Saints repeatedly abused him in the playoffs.

I hope they're not judging this man based on trying to chase down reggie bush.... lol

but at least they didn't let him know by locking him out of the practice facility.

 

[dacontinent]

Okay.... BUT, why on one hand do you want the player to "fulfill his contract before asking for more money" but you are not also asking the owner to honor that same contract? The door needs to swing both ways....

I totally agree with you on that. I don't think there should EVER be any contract renegotiation until the string has been played out (ala Alex Rodriguez and the NYY). The problem with the NFL is that the "contract" is actually a series of 1-year contracts, allowing the ownership to cut the player at any time. The balance is the negotiation of money upfront. The upfront money can either be given as a lump sum or spread out annually over the length of the contract. Regardless to how it is apportioned, the ownership is liable for it as long as the player is not suspended by the league office. When a player is cut, it is only the annual salary that the ownership is getting out of paying...and the player is a free agent to market his skills to any team that wants him. He can get a second signing bonus and front money AND an annual contract.

Jeremiah Trotter was here in Tampa yesterday to try out with the Bucs. He is a great player. I don't know that he fits into the Bucs' scheme as an MLB because he would have to drop into deep middle coverage in the Tampa 2 defense and that is not his forte. Seems like he would be a better fit with the Chicago Bears or (God forbid) the Saints.

 

[dacontinent]

Man that is total BS. Why would they bring him back? Why would he come back? If a team says some BS like that to a player they will ask to be release ASAP. Why come back to a place where you have no chance to make the roster. The Eagles always do crap like this. They wait until the worst possible time for a player. Why wait two weeks before the season starts. Trotter was totally shocked he got released. You try to make it seem like it was expected.

For starters:

1. He collected his roster bonus since the Eagles had not cut him.
2. He still had a contract with the Eagles when no one else offered him one.
3. It gave him a chance to show that he was still healthy enough to make the Eagles roster.
4. It gave him a few televised series on film to show whether or not he had really "lost a step".
5. If he quits, he has return the pro-rated portion of his last signing bonus to the Eagles (ala Michael Vick and the Falcons) and the Eagles would have still owned his rights to the end of the term of the last contract.

What he should have been shocked about was being freed to negotiate with other teams at the end of last year - a liberty that has to be granted on a by-case basis by the league office. The problem was that nobody was really going to give him a sniff until the Eagles cut him. Trotter will land somewhere and be just fine with more revenue in his pockets than he would have received staying with the Eagles.

 

[JaguarNation99]

No.................Salary cap was nowhere in my mind.

My whole point was people go off calling players greedy, selfish, self-centered, not a team player, etc., when they hold out for money.

I never mentioned a cap, but cap or not, everybody alway's give these owners a free pass when they flat out cut a player THAT'S PERFORMING HIS DUTIES, without reguard for a signed contract.

Why is it the LAW don't matter for these owners, but a player will be sued and fined if he holds out against his contract?

I don't care if the player is making $1 million or $15 million.
Not his fault the OWNER over spent his budget.

And I didn't disagree with you on that. In fact I said I agree that a player should get all he can get because none of it is guaranteed. I was just saying that in this instance, it wasn't a matter of an owner overspending, since they are well under the cap, and it wasn't an instance of a player getting cut because he was getting to the backloaded portion of his deal, since his was pretty reasonable. If that was the case, they would have cut him in March or June when it made more financial sense. It's just a matter of a player who no longer could physically perform.