Donald K. Willi
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Is it sinful to have lustful thoughts about someone you want to get with? You've never actually been with them but you would like to?
Lustful Thoughts.....
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CriTAUcal
Do Good; Good Follows
Good question!
But Webster's dictionary says that lust is a sexual desire and an intense longing or craving.
I don't know how a person can really want a person without lusting (at least a little) to some degree.
I guess just being attracted to a person is about as "sinless" as it can get. However when you just meet a person or see a stranger that you find attractive, it isn't their wit or intelligence that you see firsthand.
But we're all human, so I really don't know how you can separate wanting a person without there being some form of lust. I guess that's where a Godly discipline and prayer comes into play! Shrugs shoulders
Fortitude stated: Can we get a definition of "lust?" I agree it is a sin but, how are you to "want" someone without lusting after them?
Lust - Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. An overwhelming desire or craving. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm. To have an intense or obsessive desire. esp. one that is sexual.
The definition give you loopholes to distinguish sexual craving from other cravings.
Lust - Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. An overwhelming desire or craving. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm. To have an intense or obsessive desire. esp. one that is sexual.
The definition give you loopholes to distinguish sexual craving from other cravings.
Fortitude
Sybarite
Thanks JSU. So, based on this definition the conjuntion of "and" implies that BOTH intense and unrestrained cravings must be present. Well, that helps me because sometimes I will see someone & get a tingly sensation but, it is restrained because I don't know them or if I do.....for whatever reason I don't act on it. Overwhelming to me means that you think about sex w/the other person all day...everyday. You want them more than sleep, food or water - seriously. It borders on obsessive behavior.
That's just my take on lust based on the definition provided.
That's just my take on lust based on the definition provided.
Fortitude stated: Thanks JSU. So, based on this definition the conjuntion of "and" implies that BOTH intense and unrestrained cravings must be present. Well, that helps me because sometimes I will see someone & get a tingly sensation but, it is restrained because I don't know them or if I do.....for whatever reason I don't act on it. Overwhelming to me means that you think about sex w/the other person all day...everyday. You want them more than sleep, food or water - seriously. It borders on obsessive behavior.
That's just my take on lust based on the definition provided.
That is the point that the definition is stating.
That's just my take on lust based on the definition provided.
That is the point that the definition is stating.
LadyLuck13
Chocolate Rain
where's docmump or Springs...?
I just knew that one of them was gonna answer with Biblical text by now. They always do.
(don't go gettin' offended either, cause its the truth)
I just knew that one of them was gonna answer with Biblical text by now. They always do.
(don't go gettin' offended either, cause its the truth)
docmump
The Arch Nemesis
Re: where's docmump or Springs...?
Is Lust a sin. Already answered. Yes. Simple.
What's in your heart is what you think and What you think is what you do and What you do is what you are. - Rev. F.D. Sampson, Sr.
No need to quote scripture. The reason why I post scriptures is usually somebody ask for it. I.E. Like the Tithe, you wanted scriptures, I gave you scriptures.
Is Lust a sin. Already answered. Yes. Simple.
What's in your heart is what you think and What you think is what you do and What you do is what you are. - Rev. F.D. Sampson, Sr.
Re: where's docmump or Springs...?
Whew boy !!! I intentionally waited to see the responses. Now, the question was regarding sin and lust and it's in the prayer forum. Duh ! When you have spiritual questions what do you consult for your answers ???? For those that are Christians, the Bible is our instruction so that is where the answer comes from. Of course rightly dividing it. If I had a question about law then I'm going to a law source and not what I think, feel or what somebody told me about it. If anyone thinks that a dictionary and their analysis is the best source for guidance regarding this question then that's your choice.
I still love y'all
Whew boy !!! I intentionally waited to see the responses. Now, the question was regarding sin and lust and it's in the prayer forum. Duh ! When you have spiritual questions what do you consult for your answers ???? For those that are Christians, the Bible is our instruction so that is where the answer comes from. Of course rightly dividing it. If I had a question about law then I'm going to a law source and not what I think, feel or what somebody told me about it. If anyone thinks that a dictionary and their analysis is the best source for guidance regarding this question then that's your choice.
I still love y'all
Fortitude
Sybarite
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What then, would be called the "prompting" to kill Uriah apart from Bathsheba. He "wanted" the man dead and plotted on how to kill him. That's why I said he lusted(using the definition given) or had a strong desire for Uriah to be removed from the picture.
nevaehinvesting
Active Member
Lust is a mental state of mind that starts with a single sinful thought that makes you strongly desire what God has already said you can't have, or can't do. (usually sexual)
It can do just as much spiritual damage as it would have done if you had actually carried out those 'lustful' thoughts.
Thats why we have adulterers walking around who don't know they're adulterers. Though they never physically cheated on their spouse, they don't control their lusting.
I disagree that people have to lust 'just because we're human'. When people buy into that, STD's, abortions, etc will increase.
Read James 1:15 When that lustful thouht enters your mind, rebuke it in Jesus Name and think about anything else, like real estate....speaking of which, visit my website below!
It can do just as much spiritual damage as it would have done if you had actually carried out those 'lustful' thoughts.
Thats why we have adulterers walking around who don't know they're adulterers. Though they never physically cheated on their spouse, they don't control their lusting.
I disagree that people have to lust 'just because we're human'. When people buy into that, STD's, abortions, etc will increase.
Read James 1:15 When that lustful thouht enters your mind, rebuke it in Jesus Name and think about anything else, like real estate....speaking of which, visit my website below!
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Fortitude,
You asked 'how are you to want someone w/out lusting after them ?' A Webster's definition is not answering your question on "how" it is just answering your question on what it is. I stated that a dictionary is not going to provide you with GUIDANCE. Your only guidance is from God as a Christian. Many bibles have a concordance in the back which will show the occurances in scripture of a particular word. We should look up that word in scripture and read to understand who is God talking to, what is God talking about and how does it relate to me and my situation. The Old Testament will show you examples of how lust impacted our forerunners. The New Testament provides the grace because of lust for this dispensation. Lust is not always sexual. There is lust for power, people, things.
When Butch Wms asked his question to start this thread any Christian responding should always provide the answer based on scripture and not from own intellect. Because we're supposed to have Christ-like thinking. We've gotten into enough trouble with our own answers and answers from somebody else. I don't want to see him mess up so yes I would have said to him "Butch, the scripture says this about what you're asking. Now that you know it's on you to do what you want." But truth be told he won't be just hurting himself, that act will impact me as well. Since I see it in the prayer forum I feel he's looking for spiritual guidance.
James 1:14-16
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then wehn lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Do not err, my beloved brethren.
Love all y'all
Fortitude,
You asked 'how are you to want someone w/out lusting after them ?' A Webster's definition is not answering your question on "how" it is just answering your question on what it is. I stated that a dictionary is not going to provide you with GUIDANCE. Your only guidance is from God as a Christian. Many bibles have a concordance in the back which will show the occurances in scripture of a particular word. We should look up that word in scripture and read to understand who is God talking to, what is God talking about and how does it relate to me and my situation. The Old Testament will show you examples of how lust impacted our forerunners. The New Testament provides the grace because of lust for this dispensation. Lust is not always sexual. There is lust for power, people, things.
When Butch Wms asked his question to start this thread any Christian responding should always provide the answer based on scripture and not from own intellect. Because we're supposed to have Christ-like thinking. We've gotten into enough trouble with our own answers and answers from somebody else. I don't want to see him mess up so yes I would have said to him "Butch, the scripture says this about what you're asking. Now that you know it's on you to do what you want." But truth be told he won't be just hurting himself, that act will impact me as well. Since I see it in the prayer forum I feel he's looking for spiritual guidance.
James 1:14-16
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then wehn lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Do not err, my beloved brethren.
Love all y'all
dacontinent
Preacher
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This is a misnomer. Lust involve ANY desire...food, money, power, art, music, TV, SWACPAGE, etc., INCLUDING SEX.
This is a misnomer. Lust involve ANY desire...food, money, power, art, music, TV, SWACPAGE, etc., INCLUDING SEX.
Legend35
Active Member
Yes,....but if I may address another angle. Thinking about it is the beginning of lust but,... it's what you do with that thought that can cause you to sin.
You know After Jesus was babtised by John,...He went in the wilderness on a fast. Satan came to him and tempted him with the pride of life and the lust of the flesh.He could have given everything to jesus that he tempted him with but,.....Jesus spoke the word against Satan until Satan left him alone. The same principles are true for us today.
nevaehinvesting
Active Member
God says it's a sin to lust, period. Spiritual damage is done whether you carry out the physical act or not.
Remember, that's God's daughter that you're thinking about so be careful.