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HORNETSWARM said:The reason why census studies are so important is the fact that it shows you where people are going and the importance of gaining or loosing federal dollars. For instance, Sumter County, Al. has lost 11% of its population based on the 2000 census. Census figures showed that if this county continues loosing 11% of its population, that by the year 2040 there will be no one living in that county period.
cat daddy said:This list is interesting, but a better list would be one that gives you the MSA numbers. So many cities are now "landlocked" so they can not grow. Atlanta, New Orleans and Miami are good examples of this. They are locked in by the burbs or natural barries.
http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t10509.html
Bartram said:Yep. yeah,,, nobody in that county period except for the good ole boys who will quietly go down to the courthouse on tax sale day, buy up sections of land for a song and a dance and turn it into farmland or quail/deer hunting plantations. not that I having anything against them for doing that mind you,, just classic how we (blacks) flee/fled the south/rural south and in many instances gave up all this land (or it got took or sold for peanuts,, now the good ole boys own hole sections of land in counties that are over 50% black-like Macon county-while they live mostly in Lee or Montgomery or Elmore county.) our forefathers used to own just to go pay rent in chicago and live in tenanments. Of coarse that's an exaggeration that no longer holds,, but speaking in general terms for the early and mid 20th century. :smh:
HORNETSWARM said:I agree to the fullest........
northern tiger said:There are more people in Memphis and Nashville than Atlanta. I didn't know Atlanta was that small. By the way, suburbs don't count.
JROCK said::lmao:
HORNETSWARM said:Montgomery has also added 9,000 acres to the city which comes within 2 miles of the Macon/Bullock county lines. The 2010 census is going to look crazy in Bama. 9,000 extra acres keeps Montgomery from becoming "land-locked". And more people were added to those 9,000 acres. :nod2:
CATMENDUE2 said:Its true Jrock, actually Memphis has been the largest city in the South for more than twenty years. :swink:
CATMENDUE2 said:Its true Jrock, actually Memphis has been the largest city in the South for more than twenty years. :swink:
cat daddy said:Umm, when was Houston taken out of the south?
JROCK said:You all must be 10 minutes away from getting a NFL Team, NHL Team, MLB Team, hosting a few SUper Bowls and hosting the world after bidding on the Olympics. BTW, we are so scared that the SEC will move their championship game to the Show Boat City. :lol:
CATMENDUE2 said:Houston has never been part of the South, its a Southwestern city. New Orleans is the only major City West of the Mississippi, that is consider a Southern city, and that is because it's located on the Mississippi.
cat daddy said:San Antonio is SW, but Houston and the rest of southeast Texas is still the South. Same goes for Dallas and East Texas.
CATMENDUE2 said:If its not connected to or east of the Mississippi river its not part of the SunBelt.
If you want to call them South central cities be my guess. :smug2:
JROCK said:Using your logic, parts of Louisiana is not in the South? :lol: (Just say No! :lol: )
CATMENDUE2 said:Jrock is any part of Texas connected to the Mississippi river. :jump:
JROCK said:Is any part of Calcasieu, Lafayette, Acadia Parishes ect. connected to the Mississippi? So Lake Charles, Beaumont and Port Arthur (The Golden Triangle) are not part of the South? Or is it that only Lake Charles is part of the South and Beaumont and Port Arthur is "southwest." :lol: Since Baton Rouge is connected to the Missisippi then Lake Charles must be South but their golden triangle members are in another region. :lol: (I guess the line has to start somewhere) :lol:
CATMENDUE2 said:If its not connected to or east of the Mississippi river its not part of the SunBelt.
If you want to call them South central cities be my guest. :smug2:
Definition and Background
The Sunbelt, as defined in this analysis, refers to the states or parts of states that lie south of the 37th degree latitude. The area runs from North Carolina and Florida in the east, to Southern California in the west (Gottdiener 1994). In this report, the Sunbelt roughly forms the southern third of the Continental United States (see map). In total, the area includes 13 states and parts of two more. Ten counties in Southern California and Clark County Nevada (which includes Las Vegas) are sufficiently far south to be included in this definition of the Sunbelt.
The idea that the Sunbelt comprised a distinct region emerged during the post war years (Mohl 1990). In 1969, Kevin Phillips coined the term "Sunbelt" to refer a group of southern and western states that contained a new constituency for the Republican Party. Kirkpatrick Sale (1976) followed with a book that identified a "Southern Rim" of states that were gaining more political power with each postwar census.
The term Sunbelt also refers to places outside the original Northeastern and Midwestern urban core that grew rapidly from the mid-20th century onward. Urban historian Carl Abbott (1981) defines the Sunbelt as a "pair of regions oriented toward the southeastern and southwestern corners of the United States that have shared similarities of economic development and demographic changes since the 1940s" (page 33).
The Sunbelt's metropolitan development required modern engineering-from water projects in the Southwest and Florida to air conditioning throughout the region (Fishman 2000). The interstate highway system, which created a grid of equal access throughout the nation, not only linked it to the region's cities to rest of the nation; it also facilitated growth in the rural Sunbelt.
cat daddy said:Cat here are your Sunbelt States.
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Here's a definition of the Sunbelt.
CATMENDUE2 said:I am aware of this, where does SW and SE divide. The question is where does Southern Cities start and end, The Mississippi river has been the deciding point, since way back in the days of the Louisiana Purchase. St Louis ain't no southern city.