Largest cities in U.S. according to 2004 pop. census


The reason why census studies are so important is the fact that it shows you where people are going and the importance of gaining or loosing federal dollars. For instance, Sumter County, Al. has lost 11% of its population based on the 2000 census. Census figures showed that if this county continues loosing 11% of its population, that by the year 2040 there will be no one living in that county period.
 



HORNETSWARM said:
The reason why census studies are so important is the fact that it shows you where people are going and the importance of gaining or loosing federal dollars. For instance, Sumter County, Al. has lost 11% of its population based on the 2000 census. Census figures showed that if this county continues loosing 11% of its population, that by the year 2040 there will be no one living in that county period.

Yep. yeah,,, nobody in that county period except for the good ole boys who will quietly go down to the courthouse on tax sale day, buy up sections of land for a song and a dance and turn it into farmland or quail/deer hunting plantations. not that I having anything against them for doing that mind you,, just classic how we (blacks) flee/fled the south/rural south and in many instances gave up all this land (or it got took or sold for peanuts,, now the good ole boys own hole sections of land in counties that are over 50% black-like Macon county-while they live mostly in Lee or Montgomery or Elmore county.) our forefathers used to own just to go pay rent in chicago and live in tenanments. Of coarse that's an exaggeration that no longer holds,, but speaking in general terms for the early and mid 20th century. :smh:
 
cat daddy said:
This list is interesting, but a better list would be one that gives you the MSA numbers. So many cities are now "landlocked" so they can not grow. Atlanta, New Orleans and Miami are good examples of this. They are locked in by the burbs or natural barries.

http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t10509.html

You're righ Cat most federal funding is based on urbanizied area ranking, city population is pretty meaningless most people/businesses want to know how many people you have in your MSA.
 
Bartram said:
Yep. yeah,,, nobody in that county period except for the good ole boys who will quietly go down to the courthouse on tax sale day, buy up sections of land for a song and a dance and turn it into farmland or quail/deer hunting plantations. not that I having anything against them for doing that mind you,, just classic how we (blacks) flee/fled the south/rural south and in many instances gave up all this land (or it got took or sold for peanuts,, now the good ole boys own hole sections of land in counties that are over 50% black-like Macon county-while they live mostly in Lee or Montgomery or Elmore county.) our forefathers used to own just to go pay rent in chicago and live in tenanments. Of coarse that's an exaggeration that no longer holds,, but speaking in general terms for the early and mid 20th century. :smh:


I agree to the fullest........
 
HORNETSWARM said:
I agree to the fullest........

yeah, don't get me started. Macon County, home of Tuskegee University, is a prime example. Good ole boys own about a 2-3K acre(?) sod farm off Wire Road (county road between Tuskegee and Auburn. a sod farm? now these rebel flag waving, Auburn-Alabama dusty baseball cap wearing, pickup truck driving simpletons are millionaires sodding the RTJ Trail and just about every commercial and residential development in the state?! this in Macon county where GW Carver is the "Einstein" of agriculture and plant science in the rural south??!!! and you mean to tell me we, negroes, own nothing-or relatively little in the way of vast stretches of land-in Macon County????? amazing.).

Good ole boys own virtually all of Shorter although when you drive through there all you see is poor and destitute negroes (and now peckawoods & mexicans) dranking beer and going to Milton McGregor's (another good ole boy) dog track. Good ole boys own a sod and plant/greenhouse farm east of Shorter off U.S. 80. How did they acquire all this land in a county that is/was 80%+ black???????? (in fact, i believe one of the lead good ole boy segregationist era politicians that wanted to geremander Macon county out of existance by disbanding it and apportioning its remains to Montgomery, Lee, Tallapoosa and Bullock county in the 60s was from Shorter.) Good ole boys own virtually all of the prime forest and farmland and some of the best quail/rabbit/deer hunting plantations in Alabama are in Macon county,,, owned of coarse by good ole boys who just hung around, whittling a twig, until frustraighted black land owners left, were ran off or were lynched or were caught up in situations where they lost their land that was put up as colateral,, and who's offspring were at the right place at the right time to get all this land for nothing,, while the black sons and daughters of the former black land owners had to leave the state for jobs and a livelihood.
 
HORNETSWARM said:
Montgomery has also added 9,000 acres to the city which comes within 2 miles of the Macon/Bullock county lines. The 2010 census is going to look crazy in Bama. 9,000 extra acres keeps Montgomery from becoming "land-locked". And more people were added to those 9,000 acres. :nod2:

When the 2010 census comes out, I'm willing to bet that Bullock and Macon counties will be added to the metro area of Montgomery. With those two counties lying within (2) miles of Montgomery's city limits, then the Montgomery metro area will consist of Montgomery, Autauga, Elmore, Macon and Bullock counties. This should put Montgomery's metro population between 400,000-500,000 inhabitants.
 
CATMENDUE2 said:
Its true Jrock, actually Memphis has been the largest city in the South for more than twenty years. :swink:

You all must be 10 minutes away from getting a NFL Team, NHL Team, MLB Team, hosting a few SUper Bowls and hosting the world after bidding on the Olympics. BTW, we are so scared that the SEC will move their championship game to the Show Boat City. :lol:
 
cat daddy said:
Umm, when was Houston taken out of the south?


Houston has never been part of the South, its a Southwestern city. New Orleans is the only major City West of the Mississippi, that is consider a Southern city, and that is because it's located on the Mississippi.
 
JROCK said:
You all must be 10 minutes away from getting a NFL Team, NHL Team, MLB Team, hosting a few SUper Bowls and hosting the world after bidding on the Olympics. BTW, we are so scared that the SEC will move their championship game to the Show Boat City. :lol:


I don't live in Memphis, I live in Tampa Bay the fastest growing city in the South. Yes Jrock my city will host the Superbowl in 2008, we have the worse baseball team in the majors and our Hockey team is the defending its World championship. :lmao:
 
CATMENDUE2 said:
Houston has never been part of the South, its a Southwestern city. New Orleans is the only major City West of the Mississippi, that is consider a Southern city, and that is because it's located on the Mississippi.

San Antonio is SW, but Houston and the rest of southeast Texas is still the South. Same goes for Dallas and East Texas.
 
cat daddy said:
San Antonio is SW, but Houston and the rest of southeast Texas is still the South. Same goes for Dallas and East Texas.


If its not connected to or east of the Mississippi river its not part of the SunBelt.



If you want to call them South central cities be my guest. :smug2:
 



CATMENDUE2 said:
If its not connected to or east of the Mississippi river its not part of the SunBelt.



If you want to call them South central cities be my guess. :smug2:

Using your logic, parts of Louisiana is not in the South? :lol: (Just say No! :lol: )
 
BTW, the Sunbelt is consider anything south of Cincy and east of, and connected to the Mississippi River. It is where the Mason Dixon line starts. :shh:
 
CATMENDUE2 said:
Jrock is any part of Texas connected to the Mississippi river. :jump:

Is any part of Calcasieu, Lafayette, Acadia Parishes ect. connected to the Mississippi? So Lake Charles, Beaumont and Port Arthur (The Golden Triangle) are not part of the South? Or is it that only Lake Charles is part of the South and Beaumont and Port Arthur is "southwest." :lol: Since Baton Rouge is connected to the Missisippi then Lake Charles must be South but their golden triangle members are in another region. :lol: (I guess the line has to start somewhere) :lol:
 
JROCK said:
Is any part of Calcasieu, Lafayette, Acadia Parishes ect. connected to the Mississippi? So Lake Charles, Beaumont and Port Arthur (The Golden Triangle) are not part of the South? Or is it that only Lake Charles is part of the South and Beaumont and Port Arthur is "southwest." :lol: Since Baton Rouge is connected to the Missisippi then Lake Charles must be South but their golden triangle members are in another region. :lol: (I guess the line has to start somewhere) :lol:



Lake Charles is part of Louisiana, and Louisiana is connected to the Mississippi River. You actually figured it out, but you didn't realize it. :lmao: :retard:


BTW, Little Rock is a Southern city, can you tell me why? :D
 
CATMENDUE2 said:
If its not connected to or east of the Mississippi river its not part of the SunBelt.



If you want to call them South central cities be my guest. :smug2:

Cat here are your Sunbelt States.

SunbeltMap.JPG



Here's a definition of the Sunbelt.

Definition and Background

The Sunbelt, as defined in this analysis, refers to the states or parts of states that lie south of the 37th degree latitude. The area runs from North Carolina and Florida in the east, to Southern California in the west (Gottdiener 1994). In this report, the Sunbelt roughly forms the southern third of the Continental United States (see map). In total, the area includes 13 states and parts of two more. Ten counties in Southern California and Clark County Nevada (which includes Las Vegas) are sufficiently far south to be included in this definition of the Sunbelt.

The idea that the Sunbelt comprised a distinct region emerged during the post war years (Mohl 1990). In 1969, Kevin Phillips coined the term "Sunbelt" to refer a group of southern and western states that contained a new constituency for the Republican Party. Kirkpatrick Sale (1976) followed with a book that identified a "Southern Rim" of states that were gaining more political power with each postwar census.

The term Sunbelt also refers to places outside the original Northeastern and Midwestern urban core that grew rapidly from the mid-20th century onward. Urban historian Carl Abbott (1981) defines the Sunbelt as a "pair of regions oriented toward the southeastern and southwestern corners of the United States that have shared similarities of economic development and demographic changes since the 1940s" (page 33).

The Sunbelt's metropolitan development required modern engineering-from water projects in the Southwest and Florida to air conditioning throughout the region (Fishman 2000). The interstate highway system, which created a grid of equal access throughout the nation, not only linked it to the region's cities to rest of the nation; it also facilitated growth in the rural Sunbelt.
 
cat daddy said:
Cat here are your Sunbelt States.

SunbeltMap.JPG



Here's a definition of the Sunbelt.


I am aware of this, where does SW and SE divide. The question is where does Southern Cities start and end, The Mississippi river has been the deciding point, since way back in the days of the Louisiana Purchase. St Louis ain't no southern city.
 
CATMENDUE2 said:
I am aware of this, where does SW and SE divide. The question is where does Southern Cities start and end, The Mississippi river has been the deciding point, since way back in the days of the Louisiana Purchase. St Louis ain't no southern city.

:smh: Who would think St Louis is a southern city.

To seperate SE and SW I pretty much draw a line close to the center of Texas. West and South Texas are pretty much different in land features and culture than NE and SE Texas. Most that haven't been get a picture the west when they think of Texas but east Texas is not like that. The Port Arthur area is swamp. The rest of the golden triangle is forest. It really does not fit the idea of a SW city.
 
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