Is Spears still at GSU?


Gramfan because you've gone to every game (and I'm assuming that; seeing that's the tone you've taken) one can't look at your games on television (you are the Icon right? the BC isn't your only televised game), can't read the newsstar, can't listen to your games, and effectively follow them? I can only follow by being at the game?

Whatever man. I don't have to go to all of your games to know you can't run the ball, and your defense sucks, and that my friend is not observation, it's fact.

NICE
 



D-NICE said:
Whatever man. I don't have to go to all of your games to know you can't run the ball, and your defense sucks, and that my friend is not observation, it's fact.
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Ok reading online newspapers, following online forums and watching Grambling once a year gives you all the insight you need. Some of us aren't able to dissect a team with that little information. But hey, it's your world.
 
Dude, you are the one assuming that I only see you at the Bayou Classic, again there are other mediums that are in place if one can't be there live, such as television, and radio. As I stated in my previous post, the BC is not the only time you were/are on television. I never claimed to be the smartest of people, but I have enough intelligence to follow a game during a radio broadcast, and if a team is constantly running up, and down the field on you, I don't have to witness it with my eyes to know what's going on.

Last year there were 5 good teams in the SWAC, and excluding yourself (GSU), your defense didn't look good against the other 4. They were world beaters against the lower tier schools, but against the best the conference had to offer, they struggled mightly.

I SAW your game against AAMU last year, and trust me, your defense didn't look good. Thank God for A&M's quarterbacks not being able to hit open recievers. I SAW your game against Alcorn last year, and they went up, and down the field against you. I heard your game against Alabama State last year, and they went up, and down the field on you. I was at your game against SU last year, and we know how that turned out.

I was AT your game against BCC this year, drove 7 1/2 hours in the pouring rain to get there, and your defense showed heart, but let's be honest, BCC is one deminsional, and thank goodness, their 3rd string quarterback whom was making his first start got hurt, because he made your defense look elementary while he was playing.

Again pottna, I'm not smacking you at all, the BC is right around the corner, and Pat O'Briens is brewing up the Hurricane's as we speak so they'll be plenty of time for that, right SOG, Don Tiger, & GSUpe? If you're still going to New Orleans, stop by, and you'll get all the smack you need, but I'm talking football right now, that's why I'm on the sports board.

So again don't get so defensive bruh, I'm just giving you my observations, but if you think a defense they gave up 1000 yards of offense, and over 70 points in 2 games (SU, & Al St) last year was any good, then no bruh it's your world.

If you think your defense was any good giving up over 700 yards, and 50+ points to 2 other teams (Alc St, & A&M), what a wonderful world it is.

NICE
 
D-NICE said:
I don't have to witness it with my eyes to know what's going on.
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If you say so, patna.
D-NICE said:
Last year there were 5 good teams in the SWAC, and excluding yourself (GSU), your defense didn't look good against the other 4. They were world beaters against the lower tier schools, but against the best the conference had to offer, they struggled mightly.

I SAW your game against AAMU last year, and trust me, your defense didn't look good. Thank God for A&M's quarterbacks not being able to hit open recievers. I SAW your game against Alcorn last year, and they went up, and down the field against you. I heard your game against Alabama State last year, and they went up, and down the field on you. I was at your game against SU last year, and we know how that turned out.
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Dude, the best 5 teams didn?t do any better against Grambling than they did against Southern. You refer to Alcorn running up and down the field on us. I was there. They had success moving the ball. No doubt. They had 286 yards of offense that day and lost. But when they played SU not only did they have success, they walked all over SU?s defense to the tune of 506 yards and a win.

Alabama State had much success against Grambling last year. They were successful on long TD passes several times in that game. They, like SU took advantage of that man-on-an island defense that GSU played. Against SU, which is a game I went to, they didn?t get into the endzone until the game was decided.

As for AAMU, Grambling beat them 45-14 but they amassed a lot of yardage (367 yards) as did UAPB (399 yards) when Southern beat the isht out of them 53-7. And yea, I remember how the Bayou Classic turned out. Southern won but let?s not forget that the teams combined for over 1100 yards of offense that day (SU 596, GSU 540).

Now, don?t go and take this out of context. I am not trying to say one was better than the other. Based on statistics and scores, if our defense sucked, every SWAC team's defense sucked, including Southern's.
D-NICE said:
I was AT your game against BCC this year, drove 7 1/2 hours in the pouring rain to get there, and your defense showed heart, but let's be honest, BCC is one deminsional, and thank goodness, their 3rd string quarterback whom was making his first start got hurt, because he made your defense look elementary while he was playing.
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And your point is? Re-read post #3.
D-NICE said:
Again pottna, I'm not smacking you at all. . . I'm on the sports board.So again don't get so defensive bruh.
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Man, I never said you were smacking and I know you?re on the sports board. And again, I?m not getting defensive. LOL. I?m just trying to correct you.
D-NICE said:
I'm just giving you my observations, but if you think a defense they gave up 1000 yards of offense, and over 70 points in 2 games (SU, & Al St) last year was any good, then no bruh it's your world.
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I never used the word good to describe Grambling?s defense except for the 2001 unit. But just for comparison, what?s the difference in Grambling giving up over 1000 yards and over 70 pts to SU and ASU and Southern giving up 1000 yards and over 70 pts to GSU and Alcorn?
D-NICE said:
If you think your defense was any good giving up over 700 yards, and 50+ points to 2 other teams (Alc St, & A&M), what a wonderful world it is.
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And your defense giving up over 900 yards and 43 pts to Alcorn and UAPB? Once again, if those stats puts Grambling's defense in the suck category then bring SU and everybody else along.
 
GF, the point was I went to a GSU game that wasn't the BC. Just pointed it out since the impression you give is that I only see Gram at the BC.

As far as SU's defense goes, last year they had their moments, and this year's D definitely leaves a lot to be desired. However they replaced 8 of 9 starters, and honestly I don't think you'll find an SU person to say they expected a lot from the D this year. However, to their defense they make plays when they have to, such as the games against both ASU's, A&M, & Valley, as they did last year to seal the BC. :D

The score of the A&M game wasn't indicative of the what the game looked like, I saw it on live television, and it wasn't anything that your D did per se, but the countless missed opportunities that were really self inflicted on their part. Nonetheless a win.

My point to this thread was not to slam Gram at all, but to show some things from my point of view that I saw as trouble spots before the season started. GSUPe, and myself have had countless arguments about these very things that I'm discussing with you now, and they're starting to now starting to show themselves. Actually some of the things I saw last year, and we argued tooth, and nail about it, and they showed by the time y'all played ASU.

My main man was at the spring game (GSU's), and called me the minute the game ended, and told me if you didn't get your D together it would be a long season. Looks like he was right.

Oh, the difference between your 70 + the 1000, and SU's. A SWAC Championship. :D

I'll holla.

Beans, I still don't know how in the hell you ended up with my picture. :winkgrin:

NICE
 
D-NICE said:
GSUPe, and myself have had countless arguments about these very things that I'm discussing with you now, and they're starting to now starting to show themselves. Actually some of the things I saw last year, and we argued tooth, and nail about it, and they showed by the time y'all played ASU.

NICE
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Wodie, believe me I was about a nanosecond from chiming into this thread my damn self. LOL. SU's defense is porous as any defense in the SWAC; and Ricks inconsistency will be pronounced with everything on the line for SU in the BC.

The only consolation to this injury-plagued season for the G-MEN is that the traditionless Jags are still on the schedule.

Remember this post as of October 26, 2004 at 1:12 pm cst:

SU will be watching the SCG from the comfort of their den (just like 2000-02). Since the G-MEN are not going to Gramblingham we damn sure are not going let you mofos go.


So let it be written, so let it be done!
 
GSUperTiger said:
Remember this post as of October 26, 2004 at 1:12 pm cst:

SU will be watching the SCG from the comfort of their den (just like 2000-02). Since the G-MEN are not going to Gramblingham we damn sure are not going let you mofos go.


So let it be written, so let it be done!
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The BC is going to be soooo sweet.
 
Why is it that you people insist on riding Gramblings COATTAIL........... Besides where did you graduate from????? I don't see anything that shows that you have any type of affiliation with a HBCU......For all we know you could have been either kicked out of school or did not have enough sense to get a degree.....Besides it does not take offense or defensive as far as statistics go......BECAUSE ANYONE CAN BE BEAT ON ANY GIVEN DAY AND I ASK AGAIN WHERE DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL AT???????
 
I really thought Spears would fair better. Those mamouth injuries are relevant though. I just hate to see these guys fail.

SOG & GSUper:

I hate to be the one to break that bad new to you, but it is a strong possibility that S.U. may put 60 points on you all. The worse thing about it is this game will be on National T.V. It looks like the entire team will be healthy and ready to roll for the final stretch. Southern U. football team has so much offensive speed until this game can get ugly quick. When these guys are focused they can do quite a bit of damage. You all will not be able to stop us offensively running or passing. It pains me to say it, but you all will get a dose of how bad you really are when you go to Montgomery. This Jag team is light years away from the team that opened the season. Trust.........It will get ugly fast. The only thing your team could possibly win against YOUR defending SWAC & BCF Champions is the coin toss.........Peace
 
JROCK said:
I really thought Spears would fair better. Those mamouth injuries are relevant though. I just hate to see these guys fail.

SOG & GSUper:

I hate to be the one to break that bad new to you, but it is a strong possibility that S.U. may put 60 points on you all. The worse thing about it is this game will be on National T.V. It looks like the entire team will be healthy and ready to roll for the final stretch. Southern U. football team has so much offensive speed until this game can get ugly quick. When these guys are focused they can do quite a bit of damage. You all will not be able to stop us offensively running or passing. It pains me to say it, but you all will get a dose of how bad you really are when you go to Montgomery. This Jag team is light years away from the team that opened the season. Trust.........It will get ugly fast. The only thing your team could possibly win against YOUR defending SWAC & BCF Champions is the coin toss.........Peace
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JROCK,

I feel ya...I disagree, but I feel ya. SU is very explosive. Can't take that away from them.

However, if you are referring to Montgomery as in us playing Bama State, that game is in Grambling (HC), next weekend.
 
Nice (no pun intended) try at putting a spin on what we were discussing but below is what you came at me with after my first post in this thread.
D-NICE said:
Gramfan I hate to tell you, but your defense has sucked since 01, and the only reason why your rushing numbers looked so good last year, because your pass defense sucked so bad, and it showed everytime you played somebody who could throw.
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I'm gonna finish up by correcting you on this. In 2003 SWAC games, GSU gave up an average of 2.44 ypc in 9 games. Southern gave up 3.6 ypc in 9 SWAC games. Details?

MVSU gained 89 yards on 30 carries against GSU
MVSU gained 75 yards on 33 carries against SU

PVAM gained 23 yards on 27 carries against GSU
PVAM gained 23 yards on 24 carries against SU

ASU gained 31 yards on 20 carries against GSU
ASU gained 180 yards on 23 carries against SU (regular season)

UAPB gained 28 yards on 17 carries against GSU
UAPB gained 234 yards on 35 carries against SU

AAMU gained 111 yards on 32 carries against GSU
AAMU gained 48 yards on 30 carries against SU

Corn gained 59 yards on 29 carries against GSU
Corn gained 127 yards on 39 carries on SU

TSU gained 127 yards on 36 carries against GSU
TSU gained 220 yards on 39 carries against SU

JSU gained 88 yards on 40 carries against GSU
JSU gained 35 yards on 37 carries against SU

SU gained 44 yards on 24 carries against GSU
GSU gained 131 yards on 25 carries against SU

Totals?

GSU opponents 245 carries for 600 yards
SU opponents 283 carries for 1038 yards

Convinced? Not that I would expect you to admit it.

My point, though, is that Grambling had a very good run defense in 2003. And it wasnt because of their problems defending the pass.
 
SAME OLD G said:
JROCK,

I feel ya...I disagree, but I feel ya. SU is very explosive. Can't take that away from them.

However, if you are referring to Montgomery as in us playing Bama State, that game is in Grambling (HC), next weekend.
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My bad on the location. A heads up on Bama State is they are very potent running and passing. To beat them you will have to be able to pass. They have a wide receiver that is about 6'6 young but never the less potential NFL material. The running game is solid and possibly the best in the league. Gram will have to play their best game of the year to stay in this game.
 



GSUPe, & SOG, make sure y'all call me after the game this year, I would hate to have to hunt both of you down again, also let me know where the pity party will be held at this year, and I'll make sure I send over some drinks. Matter of fact, I'll send over that IOU from Mike Bigg if he ever pays me. lol

Supe, when have I ever said SU had a devastating defense in any of our conversations, and be honest. If I recall, before the season started, I said something to the effect of having concerns about the defense, and Ricks' learning curve. So you will get no arguments from me concerning SU's defense.

Dayum wodie, I just realized you don't call about football anymore, why is that? lol

Gram Fan, if this thread was about Pete being fired, I'd give you the same reasons about SU's defense this year, but since the thread isn't about that, have at it pottna.....lol...... One thing that interests me though, is you left out total stats, why is that?

gramtildeath ??????????????????????????????????????? Dayum you got me, I got kicked out of school, didn't get a degree, I'm homeless, and to top it off I'm balding.

NICE
 
D-NICE said:
One thing that interests me though, is you left out total stats, why is that?
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No particular reason other than my thinking that statistics from games against common opponents would be a better barometer to compare. Now, if you want me to I can post total stats as well. When including OOC games Grambling's defense gave up 89 yards per game versus Southern's 110 yards per game even though Grambling's schedule included the likes of 1-A San Jose State and 1-AA power McNeese State while Southern's schedule included Texas College and Allen.
 
GF, common opponents are cool, but I was referring to passing stats as well. I noticed you just included the rushing totals.

NICE
 
I only included rushing stats because I was trying to make a point about GSU's rush defense.

But since you asked about passing stats. . .

MVSU had 71 yards passing against GSU
MVSU had 64 yards passing against SU

PVAM had 226 yards passing against GSU
PVAM had 230 yards passing against SU

ASU had 361 yards against GSU
ASU had 141 yards passing against SU (regular season)

UAPB had 255 yards passing against GSU
UAPB had 165 yards passing against SU

AAMU had 256 yards passing against GSU
AAMU had 105 yards passing against SU

Corn had 227 yards passing against GSU
Corn had 379 yards passing against SU

TSU had 139 yards passing against GSU
TSU had 143 yards passing against SU

JSU had 224 yards passing against GSU
JSU had 192 yards passing against SU

SU had 552 yards passing against GSU
GSU had 409 yards passing against SU

SU gave up 224 passing yards a game (9th in the SWAC)
GSU gave up 246 passing yards a game (10th in the SWAC)

And before you ask about total yards . . . .

GSU gave up 319 ypg (72 rush, 246 pass) - 5th in the SWAC
SU gave up 362 ypg (137 rush, 224) - 8th in the SWAC
 
GramFan said:
Nice (no pun intended) try at putting a spin on what we were discussing but below is what you came at me with after my first post in this thread.

I'm gonna finish up by correcting you on this. In 2003 SWAC games, GSU gave up an average of 2.44 ypc in 9 games. Southern gave up 3.6 ypc in 9 SWAC games. Details?

MVSU gained 89 yards on 30 carries against GSU
MVSU gained 75 yards on 33 carries against SU

PVAM gained 23 yards on 27 carries against GSU
PVAM gained 23 yards on 24 carries against SU

ASU gained 31 yards on 20 carries against GSU
ASU gained 180 yards on 23 carries against SU (regular season)

UAPB gained 28 yards on 17 carries against GSU
UAPB gained 234 yards on 35 carries against SU

AAMU gained 111 yards on 32 carries against GSU
AAMU gained 48 yards on 30 carries against SU

Corn gained 59 yards on 29 carries against GSU
Corn gained 127 yards on 39 carries on SU

TSU gained 127 yards on 36 carries against GSU
TSU gained 220 yards on 39 carries against SU

JSU gained 88 yards on 40 carries against GSU
JSU gained 35 yards on 37 carries against SU

SU gained 44 yards on 24 carries against GSU
GSU gained 131 yards on 25 carries against SU

Totals?

GSU opponents 245 carries for 600 yards
SU opponents 283 carries for 1038 yards

Convinced? Not that I would expect you to admit it.

My point, though, is that Grambling had a very good run defense in 2003. And it wasnt because of their problems defending the pass.
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WHO WON THE GAME? NOW WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT STATS IN SOME CASES?
 
bluedog said:
WHO WON THE GAME? NOW WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT STATS IN SOME CASES?
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Man, go away. As my little niece would say "all in the kool-aid and don't know the flava."
 
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