I found this to be quite interesting


tsutiger

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Originally posted by Onnidan Webmaster on onnidan.com


This time its a PWC looking for a I-AA opponent to help finance its "diversity scholarship fund".
(Notice the marching band reference)

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THE UNIVERSITY OF AKRON is seeking an 1-AA HBCU football opponent for Saturday, September 25, 2004. The game will be played in Akron's RUBBER BOWL (35,000) and will be a fundraiser for the University of Akron Diversity Scholarship Fund. A financial guarantee will be paid with additional funds available for a school who will bring it's marching band.

For more information please contact Mike Thomas, Director of Athletics, , at 330.972.7080.

After Grambling broke records playing San Jose State these PWC are starting to take note. Its time for an 1A hbcu conference.
 
We have been aware of this for years. As you know football is expensive and ADs must find new revenue for their major sports.

Many HBCUs have been approached about playing these type of games. In addition, I am sure many HBCUs have been asked to join PWC conferences.
 



Re: Re: I found this to be quite interesting

Originally posted by PNeck019
Please don't start this.

I thought the FAMU debacle would cool this off for quite a while.

Let's not give up, but learn from the mistakes of the past. Without vision we will never move up.
 
Re: Re: Re: I found this to be quite interesting

Originally posted by Attack Dog
Let's not give up, but learn from the mistakes of the past. Without vision we will never move up.

It may indeed happen, but the school(s) must have their ducks in a row first.

It's not as easy as just snapping your fingers and saying, "I want to be I-A."

Let's also not forget that the 2nd best team in BCF was soundly beaten by a terrible 3-8 squad in last year's event.

In order for a whole conference to do it, you're talking major, major $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for stadium additions, Title IX, etc. Hell, the best program in BCF doesn't have money (or won't spend it) for a field house/locker room/weight room complex, which is sorely needed, and the head coach has harped for a decade about how his facilities hurt his recruiting.

I think a lot of us are blinded by the attendances of our Classics. While these handfuls of games are by far the largest crowds in I-AA, one must consider all the other games, whose attendances leave a lot to be desired. Sure, everybody's homecoming is well-attended, but what about a mid-season game against a lower-tier opponent?

I think that's a mindset a lot of people have. They see the best things and don't consider the effect of the worst.

I've got a perfect example from kicking (imagine that...lol).

The first thing Joe Fan always asks about a kicker is "What's his longest?" Well, WTF does that have to do with anything if you don't try any long ones? Would you rather have a guy who is 10/10 with a long of 35 yards or a guy who is 1/10 with a long of 50?

Our Classics are attended well, but 5,000 in a 55,000 seat stadium for a Grambling/Jackson State game is unacceptable.

Also, because 8 or so schools won't have the $$$$$ to make this move, the few home games those that would move would have would be against your Akrons and North Texases etc. If only 5,000 Jacksonians show up for Grambling, how many are gonna come for Akron....not picking on Jackson, just using one of the most rumored I-A candidates as an example. I can hear the responses, "Well, JSU was 2-10, that's why nobody came to the games." Just what the hell do you think FAMU's record is gonna be this year? 2-9 looks pretty right to me.....

I continue to reference the lame arse ULs when somebody talks about moving up. Sure they're making a little more money, but it ain't that much when you consider how much more they have to spend to field the requisite amounts of women's scholarship programs, not to mention the steady stream of arse-whippings...many of which come at the hands of I-AAs.

I'd be opposed to SU moving up. Way to many ducks left to be lined up to even consider it.

"You didn't go to SU." No, I didn't, but I support them fully, and btw, I'd be against my alma mater moving up as well.
 
Re: Re: I found this to be quite interesting

Originally posted by PNeck019
Please don't start this.

I thought the FAMU debacle would cool this off for quite a while.

Thank you. I thought that same thing.
 
THE UNIVERSITY OF AKRON is seeking an 1-AA HBCU football opponent for Saturday, September 25, 2004. The game will be played in Akron's RUBBER BOWL (35,000) and will be a fundraiser for the University of Akron Diversity Scholarship Fund. A financial guarantee will be paid with additional funds available for a school who will bring it's marching band.

For more information please contact Mike Thomas, Director of Athletics, , at 330.972.7080.

Well, I guess none of the SWAC schools will get a chance to participate in this 'financially-enticing' event.....thanks to our 'play ery'body in da SWAC' scheduling 'mess' this year.........
:shame:
 
Originally posted by MightyDog
Not at all, a PWC conference will take any SWAC or MEAC School in a heartbeat.

Oh really? So tell us why famu was left out on an island, the only conference invite we heard was a bunch of rumor mills and wishful thinking.

Please don't use this recent turn of events as an excuse there has been more than enough time for someone to invite them, as a matter of fact there has been invitations given to severals schools without any interest being shown by that school.

If you and any famu alum's/fans don't get that God help you.
 
Originally posted by MightyDog
Not at all, a PWC conference will take any SWAC or MEAC School in a heartbeat.

Oh, Ok. *shrug shoulders* I find that hard to believe, but if you say so.
 
Originally posted by Mr. SWAC
So because you didn't hear about it means that FAMU wasn't approached??

So if they were approached but wasn't made public and all esle was made public, what does that tell you?

Oh i get it, it's a secret huh? Kinda like them WMD.

Bruh seriously don't you read? Have you not seen the article where board members were blasting J.R. Lee for lying?

That they had no tv contract, no confirmation on most games that were suppose to be schedule and no hint of a conference affiliation.

Dude just where have you been hiding the last couple of months?
 
Originally posted by Mr. SWAC
So because you didn't hear about it means that FAMU wasn't approached??

Why make a proposal public if it's only just for review or discussion? Was the proposal to Bama coach Dennis Franchione made public? Not until he took the job. If he wouldn't have taken it you never would have heard of it. I'm sure Doug Williams is on many schools lists' (and probably gets approached) for head football coach. Just because you didn't hear it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. So you are saying that with the current alignment situation in D-1A FAMU was NEVER approached by another conference about possible membership into said D1A conference? Even with their attendance when some of these schools are struggling to meet attendance reaquirements........:confused: Come on dude use your head.
 



Originally posted by bluedog
Oh really? So tell us why famu was left out on an island, the only conference invite we heard was a bunch of rumor mills and wishful thinking.

Please don't use this recent turn of events as an excuse there has been more than enough time for someone to invite them, as a matter of fact there has been invitations given to severals schools without any interest being shown by that school.

If you and any famu alum's/fans don't get that God help you.

Are you saying that SU has never been approached or, JSU, or GSU and others?
 
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