J C
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Way to go Hornets!
HBCU Basketball: December 7 - December 13
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Way to go Hornets!
The answer to your question is simply no. If we could examine the '93 season, JSU, SU, and Bama State defeated other non-conference foes. J-State defeated more reputable teams. Currently, we have 3 teams in the conference who are winless. And even SU has 3 wins that are not viewed as victories in the NCAA. So, as the conference is winning more OOC games (instead of the familiar 30+ losses), we still are not a 13 seed. I do feel, if SU (or J-State, or 1 of the Bamas) have a strong record the rest of this year and 15-16 conference wins, a SWAC team may get a #15 seed.
Just imagine, if SU had a #15 seed one of those years instead of playing top seeded Kentucky or St. Johns.
I remember when the 2006 team gave Duke a rough time.
JAG89
THE NEW AMERICA'S TEAM
At least you answered the question instead of giving me this long synopsis on how the 1993 team received a 13th seed and trying to correct a QUESTION I asked that doesn't need correcting. Since you said it, which REPUTABLE teams did JSU defeat that year? Maybe that would help others see the point you are trying to convey.
JAG89
THE NEW AMERICA'S TEAM
As the #16 seed, SU has always played those #1 and #2 seeded teams tough in the 80's. SU made 5 NCAA tournament appears in the 80's and we had always thought we had gotten screwed when it came to tournament seeding. Like I previously stated, during the Avery years, SU had one of the longest HOME winning streaks in the country. IMO, SU would have easily beaten some of those #15, #14, #13, or less seeded teams back in the 80's. In 1986, MVSU lost to #1 seeded Duke by a score of 85-78 and Duke went on to the Final 4 that year by beating other teams in tournament by 19 and 21 points. Also, I do believe SU got seeded three times as a #15 in the 80's, which we thought was too low of a seed due to our record and the NCAA paired us up to play probably the toughest #2 seeds (Temple - 87, Kentucky - 88, and North Carolina - 89). The 1993 team coached by Ben Jobe proved our theory that if SU played one of those lesser seeded teams in the first round, we had a chance of beating them. The 1993 team just didn't beat Georgia Tech, they basically out played them and beat them convincingly. I still remembered carpooling with two characters in Los Angeles who had dual degrees in general studies and engineering from Morehouse and Georgia Tech. All I can tell you, those two jokers were hotter than fish grease when they realized Georgia Tech's basketball wasn't on SU's level that year.
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That season, JSU defeated Tulane, ULL, and Fordham. Tulane and ULL had pretty good teams then (remembering some of the Grambling Lab kids going to those schools). Also, even though they lost, JSU hung with Memphis (State), Illinois, and Kansas.
I couldn't find a complete schedule for SU, but the sched. I saw had SU defeating SLU(twice) and Central Florida (twice) that season. And SU was the #3 seed in the SWAC tourney. The conference was pretty tough back then.
JAG89
THE NEW AMERICA'S TEAM
IMO, in the 80's and early to mid 90's the conference was pretty good as a whole. Even though they never been to the dance, Grambling had a few teams in the 80's that made some noise in the conference. I still remembered my homeboy Napolean 'Nap' Johnson, Jr. playing center for them. The conference didn't experience a drop off in basketball until the late 90's. It appears that the conference is back on track to being competitive again like it was back in the 80's and early to mid 90's.