Gov. Barbour calls for merger of Alcorn and Valley into Jackson State University


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jsupop33 said:
High School districts need to be merged.. We dont need 152....way too many superintendents and such on the payroll.
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I know.
But they don't even have the votes to do that.

As much as the surrounding BURBS claim to hate Jackson, can you imagine the school district's in Madison or Rankin County being swallowed up by the largest district in the state Hinds County( jackson).
There would be people stroking out in the middle of Madison County street's if that shat happened.:lol:
It would be the same throughout the state with the so-called better school districts gobbling up the lesser performing districts.
Then they would cry foul, and on, and on.
 
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this is to Royla blue, this is what your buddies think about you and your school JSU. The same people you are so in love with.

believe 16 is the lowest acceptable ACT score for JSU. The problem is that you wouldn't want someone with a ACT score of 16 to wash your car, let alone engage in something remotely demandind.
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I don't even know why I'm posting this, you don't care anyway. man you have no conscience
 



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ROYAL BLUE said:
IMO, Mason and Barbour cut a deal to make JSU the largest HBCU in the nation. Not only would this increase funding for JSU, but this will also add additional programs for students to select from. I would be lying if I stated I'm against such a move.

The only thing I'll miss is the rivalry.....
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Not so fast RB... this plan is an effort to streamline spending, not increase it. Nowhere in this plan is there talk of increases, especially for athletic budgets.
 
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jsupop33 said:
RB,
I saw this proposal coming along time ago. Once he got a black voice to agree (Democratic Rep from Vicksburg), it was moving forward..
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I was just about to ask if the Mississippi Legislature was backing this. What is the majority vote of the Legislature? Dems or Repubs? The Repubs will probably give him the needed votes and it looks like some of the Dems will side too.
 
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Brave said:
Man I want to slap the f**K outta you for that comment.:upset:

What is wrong with you idiot? I can't believe you are such a house ninga.

You gotta be the most stupid person on this board, man you make me sick.

its people like you that bring down the entire black community, you have no problem selling out your brother just to get ahead.

You are a SAD F***:argue2:
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:lol:

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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ToPdOg said:
Would you be for this move if you'd gone to Valley or Alcorn instead of JSU? Or would you be for it if Alcorn or Valley were bigger than JSU and JSU merged to them with the non-JSU name?
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No, to both of your questions. It's only natural for many to protect their own, but the bottom line will remain the same. Think about it, Obama took a small $85 million from HBCUs, but increased funding for hispanics and called it a budget cut. He then gave billions to bankers, unions, Acorn, and bought a car dealership in a poor economy. All this money go out the door, thousands are continuing to lose jobs, and the hope he sold to Americans aint worth a fart passing in the wind. How many negroes called Obama out on this? What's my point? Tell Obama to give some of that cheese to HBCUs if he cares about educating the poor. He//, he giving it to others, why not give it to his own kind.

Governor Barbour is just doing his job due to a lack of support from alumni. He is not the one to blame for the majority of Alcorn and Valley's alumni refusing to give to their school. Where is the money from alumni to help their beloved universities out of this financial hardship? Where are they? Again, call your president and tell him to save our schools if he cares for his own kind.

Does anyone have the % of alumni giving for JSU, Valley, and Alcorn?
 
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JSU/99 said:
This is just a proposal. Land grant issues aside, the Governor doesn't have the authority to make this happen without the legislature. And they aren't going to sign on to this plan. No way, no how. The fact that George Flaggs signed on to this make no difference.
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How many politicians actually care about saving Alcorn and Valley? Can you please provide me with a list of politicians who will vote No on this proposal?
 
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JSU/99 said:
A lot of prominant HBCU alums like John A Peoples supported Barbour. We need a seat at every table they said. Well I wonder if they had a seat at the table when this proposal was cooked up. At some point we're going to learn to leave these Republicans alone.
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Call obama and tell him to bailout the HBCUs. They aboutto spend $1.2 trillion on healthcare, so it shouldn't be a problem to give JSU, Alcorn, and Valley $1 billion a piece. Don't you think?
 
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silentrage said:
How about taking a look at those acts referenced by Fiyah? It is likely stated in those acts about what can and can't occur regarding a land grant institution.

Here's a starting point for your research: The Library of Congress

Happy Hunting! :lecture:
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What about the broke act? Does it apply too? You can't give something you don't have. Hurry, call Obama for help!
 
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ROYAL BLUE said:
No, to both of your questions. It's only natural for many to protect their own, but the bottom line will remain the same. Think about it, Obama took a small $85 million from HBCUs, but increased funding for hispanics and called it a budget cut. He then gave billions to bankers, unions, Acorn, and bought a car dealership in a poor economy. All this money go out the door, thousands are continuing to lose jobs, and the hope he sold to Americans aint worth a fart passing in the wind. How many negroes called Obama out on this? What's my point? Tell Obama to give some of that cheese to HBCUs if he cares about educating the poor. He//, he giving it to others, why not give it to his own kind.

Governor Barbour is just doing his job due to a lack of support from alumni. He is not the one to blame for the majority of Alcorn and Valley's alumni refusing to give to their school. Where is the money from alumni to help their beloved universities out of this financial hardship? Where are they? Again, call your president and tell him to save our schools if he cares for his own kind.

Does anyone have the % of alumni giving for JSU, Valley, and Alcorn?
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In other words, as along as YOUR school is ok, then screw the others right? Typical republican mentality.
 
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ROYAL BLUE said:
Which means JSU's athletic budget would increase by $5-8 million........IMO. This would also give JSU the funds it needs to move up to FBS, and possibly join the Sun Belt.
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You can best believe that any savings from this proposed merger will not go to an athletic budet.
 
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ROYAL BLUE said:
......and I'm sure it will stay that way, just under a different name.
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They have to be real careful messing with "Land Grant" institutions that were put in place by the Federal Government. (Ask University of Tennessee when they were trying to mess with Tennessee State) In a previous Case when Univ. Tennessee had a campus in Nashville and wanted to take in(merge) Tennessee State as well and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the "older" school took precendence and awarded U.T.'s Nashville campus to Tennessee State. So the whole plan backfired.

My dad was telling me that some of the people at Delta State mentioned this when they were first mentioned in the initial proposal, so they made a big push to get Gov. Barbour to take them out of the plan altogether...

So he is pretty much putting all the HBCU's against each other and really don't care who wins out.....(Alcorn is technically the oldest)

MUW is just a pawn in this whole plan.....They won't merge them with Miss. State. They will just be used as an argument that we are not just messing with the HBCU's.
 



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Fiyah said:
I don't think you can merge a land grant institution because of how it was created thru the Morrill Acts, the Hatch Act and the Smith-Lever Act. In Mississippi there are 2 Land Grant Schools being Alcorn and Mississippi State.
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You have a point Fiyah. John F Kennedy High School sits on federal land next to the USDA office in New Orleans that the Feds gave to the Orleans Parish School Board for the purpose of public education. In the agreement the feds mandated that a school had to be built on the site and for no other uses. Hurricane Katrina puts about 15ft of water in the school and damages everything. In an attempt to unload the site, the school board tried to sell the land to a private school that was damaged in the 9th ward. The Feds stepped in with those legal documents stopping the sale and told them if they go through with it they would take the land back and give it back to the USDA office.
 
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ToPdOg said:
In other words, as along as YOUR school is ok, then screw the others right? Typical republican mentality.
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Dude, I aint got the kinda green Obama giving to bankers, Acorn, AIG, and others. When did I cut $85 million from HBCUs? He's the one screwing HBCUs........not republicans.

Obama going round the world bowing to folks who hate our guts, traveling on a kissing azz tour around the world, and you want to get mad at Barbour. Why can't he bow to and kiss the azz of HBCUs?
 
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Just ignore this clown and move on, it's just that simple. It's basic strategy, divide and conquer. Of course many JSU folks aren't going to be so opposed, because there is no conceivable downside to them. It's stupid, because it would be a logistical nightmare. What are u gonna do with all of the sports teams, bands, and etc.??? What if a good recruit wants to major in something on the Valley Campus? Does he go to class at Valley and drive back down to Jackson for practice??? If we really want to be honest, the rest of the SEC looks down on Ole Miss and Miss. St, just like they look down on us. Neither of them have won anything substantial, so why not combine their forces and do bigger things themselves.
 
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Devil's Gun Trigger Man said:
Ole Miss and Miss. St: so why not combine their forces and do bigger things themselves.
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WOW: You just said a MOUTHFUL right there... lol

Merger is just stupid to me. I just don't see any savings. All I see is waste. MS has eight public universities and they just have to deal with it.

But also to answer your question about what would happen to the programs at different schools, it would not be far fetched for JSU to also have to go through some changes... like change our colors to Green and Gold... :smh:, mascot, etc...
 
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ALPHA3 said:
You have a point Fiyah. John F Kennedy High School sits on federal land next to the USDA office in New Orleans that the Feds gave to the Orleans Parish School Board for the purpose of public education. In the agreement the feds mandated that a school had to be built on the site and for no other uses. Hurricane Katrina puts about 15ft of water in the school and damages everything. In an attempt to unload the site, the school board tried to sell the land to a private school that was damaged in the 9th ward. The Feds stepped in with those legal documents stopping the sale and told them if they go through with it they would take the land back and give it back to the USDA office.
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Yep, Holy Cross been trying to get their hands on that land...

That's why I still believe JFK will be opening one of these days...
 
JSU, ASU, MVSU Merged?

I just read on another college talk board that Mississippi's Republican Governor Haley Barbour has recommended to a Mississippi Higher Education Board that Mississppi University for Women be merged with the larger Mississippi State University and that Alcorn and Mississippi Valley be merged with the larger Jackson State. The post went on to say that the Alcorn and Valley campuses would not be closed but would become Jackson State's satelite campuses. This would allow for dollars being saved through the elimination of administrative costs and through the elimination of duplicate programs. If this is old news, I am just now hearing it.

If this is true, every HBCU graduate in America should get involved because of the implication for HBCUs everywhere.
 
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