Global Warming Tax Scam


ROYAL BLUE said:
Various scientific scenarios have been theorized on the effects of an asteroid or comet's collision with Earth. An applicable scenario theorizes a chemical change in the atmosphere due to "heat shock" during entry and/or impact of a large asteroid or comet, reacting Oxygen and Nitrogen in the atmosphere to produce Nitric Acid rain. The bitterness produced by the Wormwood Star upon a third of theEarth 's potable waters could be the Biblical prediction of "acid rain" from the "heat shock" of a large comet or asteroid's impact withEarth.

The Hooper Natural Science Museum in Ottawa, Canada cites the theorized "atmospheric chemical changes" from the impact of an asteroid or comet with the Earth. See the statement below:

When an asteroid enters earth's atmosphere there are two occurrences of extreme shock. The first occurs as the asteroid enters the atmosphere. The second, more important one, occurs when the ejecta plume (the ejected debris caused by an impact) enters the atmosphere (Zahnle, 1990). This shock causes the breakdown of the oxygen (O2) and the nitrogen (N2) molecules found in our atmosphere. Through a series of chemical reactions the dissociation of the nitrogen and oxygen forms NO which is then converted into NO2. These two molecules can produce acid rain (HNO3) (Prinn and Fegley, 1987). In 1987 Prinn and Fegley determined the atmospheric consequences of a "large" comet impact versus a "small" comet impact. They assumed the "large" impact comet had a mass of 1.25 x 1016 Kg traveling at a velocity of 65 Km/s. As for the "small" impact asteroid, they assumed it had a mass of 5 x 1014 Kg traveling at a velocity of 20 Km/s. It is important to note that these two objects are possible bolides that hit the earth 65 million years ago. http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/bible-truths-12700.html
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So you do believe pollutants in the atmosphere can affect the climate. That is all.
 



JaguarNation99 said:
So you do believe pollutants in the atmosphere can affect the climate. That is all.
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Yes, pollutants can effect the atmosphere, however it can never effect the climate. God told us we will always have our seasons, and I will always believe God over man........always. Have you ever asked yourself why over 30,000 scientist are suing Al Gore over "Global Warming"? Man does not possess the power to destroy this planet.
 
49 states dusted with snow; Hawaii's the holdout

Forget red and blue — color America white. There was snow on the ground in 49 states Friday. Hawaii was the holdout.

It was the United States of Snow, thanks to an unusual combination of weather patterns that dusted the U.S., including the skyscrapers of Dallas, the peach trees of Atlanta and the Florida Panhandle, where hurricanes are more common than snowflakes.

More than two-thirds of the nation's land mass had snow on the ground when the day dawned yesterday, and then it snowed ever so slightly in Florida to make it 49 states out of 50. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100213/ap_on_re_us/us_united_states_of_snow

Speak to them fools Lord God YHVH!

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ROYAL BLUE said:
Yes, pollutants can effect the atmosphere, however it can never effect the climate. God told us we will always have our seasons, and I will always believe God over man........always. Have you ever asked yourself why over 30,000 scientist are suing Al Gore over "Global Warming"? Man does not possess the power to destroy this planet.
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You're arguing against a straw man, the argument isn't or never was will man destroy the planet. But the concept that our actions have no consequence is illogical, and there's a lot of proof that pollutants in the atmosphere do affect climate, as your link illustrates. But if you believe seasons are natural (and they obviously are), why are you posting links of winter snowstorms as though that disproves that the Earth is warming?
 
JaguarNation99 said:
.......why are you posting links of winter snowstorms as though that disproves that the Earth is warming?
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...........because somebody is lying! Do you know who's telling the truth? I have a few articles below that have scientists stating the earth is cooling.

CLIMATE CHANGE: It's official: the world is cooling, not warming

Recent scientific evidence shows that the world's climate is cooling, not warming, as a result of reduced radiation from the sun, the engine which drives the earth's climate.

The slight warming of the earth's atmosphere from about 1970 to 2000 came at a time of increased solar radiation and higher levels of sunspot activity.

As solar observatories have been collecting sunspot data for several centuries, a correlation has been observed between sunspot activity and the temperature of the earth's surface. http://www.newsweekly.com.au/articles/2008aug30_cover.html

Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming

A San Francisco-based scientist says that current solar activity strongly indicates that the earth is on the verge of a new ice age.

"Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh," warns Phil Chapman writing in The Australian. Chapman is a geophysicist and astronautical engineer who was the first Australian to become a NASA astronaut. http://newsmax.com/Headline/global-warming-ice-age/2008/04/24/id/323514
 
Reading truly is fundamental. Both of your links both claim that a cooling period is coming, not that one has arrived. The Earth has clearly warmed over the last 20 to 30 years. I agree that our role in that is unsettled and unquestionably overblown, but any assertion that warming has not taken place just doesn't match with the facts. Even those researchers that say that human activity has no effect on climate (which is just as silly a position as those who claim we're the only cause) agree that warming has taken place.
 
JaguarNation99 said:
Reading truly is fundamental. Both of your links both claim that a cooling period is coming, not that one has arrived. The Earth has clearly warmed over the last 20 to 30 years. I agree that our role in that is unsettled and unquestionably overblown, but any assertion that warming has not taken place just doesn't match with the facts. Even those researchers that say that human activity has no effect on climate (which is just as silly a position as those who claim we're the only cause) agree that warming has taken place.
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I don't know what you're reading, but those articles clearly state cooling has already begun. I tell you what, I will post another article that may help you......

Earth's 'Fever' Breaks! Global temperatures 'have plunged .74°F since Gore released An Inconvenient Truth'

The latest global averaged satellite temperature data for June 2009 reveals yet another drop in the Earth's temperature. This latest drop in global temperatures means despite his dire warnings, the Earth has cooled .74°F since former Vice President Al Gore released "An Inconvenient Truth" in 2006.

According to the latest global satellite data courtesy of the University of Alabama in Huntsville and made into an easy to read graph by algorelied.com: "For the record, this month's Al Gore / 'An Inconvenient Truth' Index indicates that global temperatures have plunged approximately .74°F (.39°C) since Gore's film was released," noted algorelied.com. (See satellite temperature chart here with key dates noted, courtesy of www.Algorelied.com - Also see: 8 Year Downtrend Continues in Global Temps)

Gore -- who is fond of saying the Earth has a "fever" -- has not yet addressed the simple fact that global temperatures have dropped since the release of his global warming film. (Gore has also not addressed this: Another Moonwalker Defies Gore: NASA Astronaut Dr. Buzz Aldrin rejects global warming fears: 'Climate has been changing for billions of years' - Moonwalkers Defy Gore's Claim That Climate Skeptics Are Akin To Those Who Believe Moon Landing was 'Staged') http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1799/...egF-since-Gore-released-An-Inconvenient-Truth
 
I read the ones you posted, neither one states that we have entered a period of cooling. As far as what you just posted, that would be called cherrypicking the data, the trend looks flat or like slight cooling if you choose to look at the data from 1998 (the warmest year on record) to 2008 (the coolest year of this decade), a favorite tactic of those that like to claim that temperatures haven't trended upward. The fact of the matter is that the 2000s were the warmest decade on record, and each of the last three decades have been warmer than the previous. The rate of warming slowed somewhat during the 2000s, but still trended upward. Like I said previously, the debate is over the cause of the warming, not whether warming has occurred.
 
JaguarNation99 said:
I read the ones you posted, neither one states that we have entered a period of cooling. As far as what you just posted, that would be called cherrypicking the data, the trend looks flat or like slight cooling if you choose to look at the data from 1998 (the warmest year on record) to 2008 (the coolest year of this decade), a favorite tactic of those that like to claim that temperatures haven't trended upward. The fact of the matter is that the 2000s were the warmest decade on record, and each of the last three decades have been warmer than the previous. The rate of warming slowed somewhat during the 2000s, but still trended upward. Like I said previously, the debate is over the cause of the warming, not whether warming has occurred.
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.....somebody is lying about "Global Warming". What I do know is that we have "Global Warming" every year, and it's called summer. There is no proof of a man made "Global Warming". What part of that don't people understand? I guess the weather channel and 30 thousand scientist suing Al Gore is not enough....:shame:

Weather Channel & 30,000 scientists sue Al Gore for fraud

http://www.videosift.com/video/Weather-Channel-30000-scientists-sue-Al-Gore-for-fraud
 
RB

Do you recall I posted information several months ago concerning global warming from an individual from NOAA and NASA who has studied this area.

He stated that over the past fifty years the earth has warmed 2 -3 degrees. The warming is one of the reasons the ice is melting in Alaska, Artic and other places.

It has been proven that the average temperature around the world has increased during the past years.

Is he wrong and you are right.
 
Lets clear up one fact from the hype. Global Warming is happening - the earth average temp is getting warmer. The debate is not on that as some would want you to believe, the debate is on the cause.
 
Dr H.. said:
RB

Do you recall I posted information several months ago concerning global warming from an individual from NOAA and NASA who has studied this area.

He stated that over the past fifty years the earth has warmed 2 -3 degrees. The warming is one of the reasons the ice is melting in Alaska, Artic and other places.

It has been proven that the average temperature around the world has increased during the past years.

Is he wrong and you are right.
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.....and it has also been proven the earth is cooling. You can't have it both ways, so somebody is lying.....

Again, somebody is lying because there are "MORE" scientist calling "Global Warming" a fraud than a fact. Are you telling me the scientists below are lying and the dude you posted from NASA is telling the truth? I have a scientist from NASA in one of the articles below against "Global Warming", so what's your point?

What part of the following don't you understand? Weather Channel & 30,000 scientists sue Al Gore for fraud

Video showing weather channel founder talking about suing Al Gore for fraud.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Weather-Channel-30000-scientists-sue-Al-Gore-for-fraud

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Earth's 'Fever' Breaks! Global temperatures 'have plunged .74°F since Gore released An Inconvenient Truth'

The latest global averaged satellite temperature data for June 2009 reveals yet another drop in the Earth's temperature. This latest drop in global temperatures means despite his dire warnings, the Earth has cooled .74°F since former Vice President Al Gore released "An Inconvenient Truth" in 2006. http://www.climatedepot.com/a/1799/...egF-since-Gore-released-An-Inconvenient-Truth

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Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming

A San Francisco-based scientist says that current solar activity strongly indicates that the earth is on the verge of a new ice age.

"Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh," warns Phil Chapman writing in The Australian. Chapman is a geophysicist and astronautical engineer who was the first Australian to become a NASA astronaut.

http://newsmax.com/Headline/global-warming-ice-age/2008/04/24/id/323514

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CLIMATE CHANGE: It's official: the world is cooling, not warming

Recent scientific evidence shows that the world's climate is cooling, not warming, as a result of reduced radiation from the sun, the engine which drives the earth's climate. http://www.newsweekly.com.au/articles/2008aug30_cover.html
 
Olde Hornet said:
Lets clear up one fact from the hype. Global Warming is happening - the earth average temp is getting warmer. The debate is not on that as some would want you to believe, the debate is on the cause.
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How is it happening when you can't even get the majority of scientists to agree? The majority of scientists have data showing the earth has cooled the past decade. Who do you believe?
 



ROYAL BLUE said:
How is it happening when you can't even get the majority of scientists to agree? The majority of scientists have data showing the earth has cooled the past decade. Who do you believe?
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Clearly you have no idea what the word 'majority' means, since it's widely accepted that warming has taken place. Three links do not a majority make. I realize critical thinking and original thought aren't your strong suits, otherwise you wouldn't keep referring back to the ridiculous claim that Al Gore is being sued by 30,000 scientists. They have no grounds to sue him, and I bet you can't find one shred of evidence that shows a lawsuit was actually filed. It shouldn't be that hard, since John Coleman has been yelling for 2 years about this lawsuit, and civil suits are public records. Just so you know, a YouTube video is not evidence. And for the record, I know you seem to be impressed by that 30,000 number, but that number would represent a tiny fraction of the total number of scientists and researchers that agree that warming has taken place.
 
JaguarNation99 said:
Clearly you have no idea what the word 'majority' means, since it's widely accepted that warming has taken place. Three links do not a majority make. I realize critical thinking and original thought aren't your strong suits, otherwise you wouldn't keep referring back to the ridiculous claim that Al Gore is being sued by 30,000 scientists. They have no grounds to sue him, and I bet you can't find one shred of evidence that shows a lawsuit was actually filed. It shouldn't be that hard, since John Coleman has been yelling for 2 years about this lawsuit, and civil suits are public records. Just so you know, a YouTube video is not evidence. And for the record, I know you seem to be impressed by that 30,000 number, but that number would represent a tiny fraction of the total number of scientists and researchers that agree that warming has taken place.
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You can say what you want, but the truth will always stand, and Al Gore is not a professional scientist. Scientists have presented data showing the earth has cooled over the past decade, and that information is indisputable. If you want Al Gore to deceive you into believing this BS lie about the earth warming, then have at it..........
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
You can say what you want, but the truth will always stand, and Al Gore is not a professional scientist. Scientists have presented data showing the earth has cooled over the past decade, and that information is indisputable. If you want Al Gore to deceive you into believing this BS lie about the earth warming, then have at it..........
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I never said Gore was right, your straw man strategies and diversions won't work on me. I said you can't prove he's being sued, and obviously you can't since you didn't address it. Speaking of professional scientists, neither is John Coleman (he's not even a trained meteorologist, has no published research on anything, and certainly knows nothing about climatology), but you have no issue using him as proof. As far as the Earth cooling the last decade, I already addressed that myth, but you don't believe in reading things that disprove your position. Sure you can find a fringe researcher here and there to tell you the Earth has cooled, but the preponderance of scientific evidence (scholarly peer-reviewed research) agrees that the Earth has warmed. The Earth has undergone numerous periods of warming and cooling in its history, a concept so simple even you should be able to grasp it. As I already explained, the debate is not over whether warming has occurred (that is widely accepted), it is over whether human activity has contributed to it.
 
JaguarNation99 said:
I never said Gore was right, your straw man strategies and diversions won't work on me. I said you can't prove he's being sued, and obviously you can't since you didn't address it. Speaking of professional scientists, neither is John Coleman (he's not even a trained meteorologist, has no published research on anything, and certainly knows nothing about climatology), but you have no issue using him as proof. As far as the Earth cooling the last decade, I already addressed that myth, but you don't believe in reading things that disprove your position. Sure you can find a fringe researcher here and there to tell you the Earth has cooled, but the preponderance of scientific evidence (scholarly peer-reviewed research) agrees that the Earth has warmed. The Earth has undergone numerous periods of warming and cooling in its history, a concept so simple even you should be able to grasp it. As I already explained, the debate is not over whether warming has occurred (that is widely accepted), it is over whether human activity has contributed to it.
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Exactly!! :tup:
 
Global Warming is the new "Religion" of the left. 20 -25years ago, the headlines were screaming; New Ice Age Coming! No one who believes this junk will agree to debate those scientists who debunk this crap!! I used think Al Gore was an idiot. now I see he is a genius. He got an Oscar and the Nobel Prize for a slide show.
 
D Tiger said:
Global Warming is the new "Religion" of the left. 20 -25years ago, the headlines were screaming; New Ice Age Coming! No one who believes this junk will agree to debate those scientists who debunk this crap!! I used think Al Gore was an idiot. now I see he is a genius. He got an Oscar and the Nobel Prize for a slide show.
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This is an interesting and often repeated claim, which was the result of the popular media getting the story wrong. The scientific literature from that period and earlier is overwhelming in support of global warming. Here is a link to a research article that examines the research and the origins of the myth that there was a global cooling consensus: The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus.
 
JaguarNation99 said:
This is an interesting and often repeated claim, which was the result of the popular media getting the story wrong. The scientific literature from that period and earlier is overwhelming in support of global warming. Here is a link to a research article that examines the research and the origins of the myth that there was a global cooling consensus: The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus.
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Very interesting article. Kind of like this one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html
 
D Tiger said:
Very interesting article. Kind of like this one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html
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Not really, one was a well-research peer reviewed article (which you clearly didn't read that quickly), the other a sensationalized newspaper article, which still supports the accepted notion that warming has taken place. Nice diversion though. As I had said before, it's pretty well established that warming has taken place, the issue of debate is the cause, or more accurately, causes. The truth is most likely somewhere between the two extremes of man is the only cause and man's actions have no effect/no warming has taken place.
 
JaguarNation99 said:
Not really, one was a well-research peer reviewed article (which you clearly didn't read that quickly), the other a sensationalized newspaper article, which still supports the accepted notion that warming has taken place. Nice diversion though. As I had said before, it's pretty well established that warming has taken place, the issue of debate is the cause, or more accurately, causes. The truth is most likely somewhere between the two extremes of man is the only cause and man's actions have no effect/no warming has taken place.
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No, I did not read all 13 pages as I scanned them. But, Ganyemede and Io, (moons of Jupiter) are also warming. I guarantee there is not one Suburban or one Ford Expidition onn either moon. If there is global warming, this suggest it must be solar and not man produced. If we do want the leftists want us to do about global warming and that is to transfer our wealth to the rest of the world. China and India ain't gonna do nothing but pollute at whatever rate they want.
 
JaguarNation99 said:
I never said Gore was right, your straw man strategies and diversions won't work on me. I said you can't prove he's being sued, and obviously you can't since you didn't address it. Speaking of professional scientists, neither is John Coleman (he's not even a trained meteorologist, has no published research on anything, and certainly knows nothing about climatology), but you have no issue using him as proof. As far as the Earth cooling the last decade, I already addressed that myth, but you don't believe in reading things that disprove your position. Sure you can find a fringe researcher here and there to tell you the Earth has cooled, but the preponderance of scientific evidence (scholarly peer-reviewed research) agrees that the Earth has warmed. The Earth has undergone numerous periods of warming and cooling in its history, a concept so simple even you should be able to grasp it. As I already explained, the debate is not over whether warming has occurred (that is widely accepted), it is over whether human activity has contributed to it.
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The argument is not about what the earth has been through. The argument is about people lying and saying the earth is warming, when scientists have presented facts showing the earth is cooling. Again, you may choose to believe the earth is warming, however I will choose to believe the earth is cooling based on facts.

I have yet to research the lawsuits to see if they were filed, however I did find the following..........

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods.

It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning, wouldn't you agree?

For those that haven't been following this case, a British truck driver filed a lawsuit to prevent the airing of Gore's alarmist detritus in England's public schools.

According to the website of the political party the plaintiff, Stewart Dimmock, belongs to (ecstatic emphasis added throughout, h/t Marc Morano):

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...ven-inaccuracies-al-gore-s-inconvenient-truth
 
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