Normal1875
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it was a comment made awhile back that JSU doesnt have rely on JUCO's! what happened to that swagger?....did Coach Bell change yall attitude on that matter
EX JSU WR Ross to Transfer
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Tigerpride
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TRU3000 said:it was a comment made awhile back that JSU doesnt have rely on JUCO's! what happened to that swagger?....did Coach Bell change yall attitude on that matter
TRU, Bell did not change that ...Hughes did. We are at an all time low right now, how else do you think we let a lowly school like yours beat us. Don't worry, we will be back to starting Jr's and Sr's only real soon. NFL prospects will have to wait in line to touch the field.
Thanks for your question.
(and when did you become my frat??
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Normal1875
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Oh Noble TP ...I became <b>YOur</b> frat this past
nevermind...ask your frat SUGE he has all that vital information!....anything else you wanna know bout me get at me in a PM Phi!
your in Philadelphia? ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
BTW, thanks for answering the question! :smug2:
i still dont think Coach BeLL is the right man for the JSU job!....but heyyy I from A&M! i wish yall much luck this season....on tha real bruh!
nevermind...ask your frat SUGE he has all that vital information!....anything else you wanna know bout me get at me in a PM Phi!your in Philadelphia?
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!BTW, thanks for answering the question! :smug2:
i still dont think Coach BeLL is the right man for the JSU job!....but heyyy I from A&M! i wish yall much luck this season....on tha real bruh!
MACHIAVELLI
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How long is that line?Tigerpride said:
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
MACHIAVELLI said:
We are rebuilding the line. Rembember the last time that line was long?? It was Pre Hughes and scores were looking like this against a certain opponent. 52-0, 23-0, 68-35, 31-6. In just one year, Bell had Gram on the ropes with Hughes recruited talent...This year, we taking over the SWAC. Have our home side ready in Ruston!!
mighty hornet
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Thats just one of MANY chickens that have come home to roost in the past few years for JSU.TRU3000 said:
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
MH,
Why haven't any of you Bell haters mentioned this about Coe???
from the Montgomery Advertiser:
The goal for Coe and his assistants this spring is to start the changeover from former coach L.C. Cole's offensive system to Coe's system.
Coe took over as head coach when Cole was suspended the day before fall practice started last year. Coe made the decision to learn Cole's system and not force the players to start from scratch so close to the beginning of the season.
Now that there's time, Coe wants the players to learn his way of doing things.
Why haven't any of you Bell haters mentioned this about Coe???
from the Montgomery Advertiser:
The goal for Coe and his assistants this spring is to start the changeover from former coach L.C. Cole's offensive system to Coe's system.
Coe took over as head coach when Cole was suspended the day before fall practice started last year. Coe made the decision to learn Cole's system and not force the players to start from scratch so close to the beginning of the season.
Now that there's time, Coe wants the players to learn his way of doing things.
mighty hornet
The HMIC!!
My God TP,
I can't believe how you selectively posted parts of that article to give such a wrong impression, like Coe going to switching to some 2 yards and a cloud of dust offense, like Bell. That article clearly states that MOST of ASU's offense will be the same, with just a change in terminology.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
nice try, but it failed. MISERABLY!!!
I can't believe how you selectively posted parts of that article to give such a wrong impression, like Coe going to switching to some 2 yards and a cloud of dust offense, like Bell. That article clearly states that MOST of ASU's offense will be the same, with just a change in terminology.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
nice try, but it failed. MISERABLY!!!
MightyDog
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83, no matter how you and the entire JSU and NSM Mafia take up for your coach, you selected a person who had no experience in BCF. He is trying to implement rules and regulations that will not work. We went throught this with Coop and other coaches therefore if Mike or any member from the Dawgpound post something just move your head up and down, because we have more expertise in this area that any SWAC Member.
HBCUs
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mighty hornet said:
MH,
Nobody at JSU denies Ross' talent. But talent isn't the issue here.
The reason Ross drew the ire of so many JSU fans was the attitude he displayed for over a year. Instead of being a man and giving his all regardless of the offensive set he chose to take plays off and waste his talent when he really could've helped things. I can't begin to count how many drive-killing drops he had this year. And for the record, I blame Bell more for putting up with that kind of garbage for as long as he did than any set he ran or questionable play call.
Hell, I'd go so far to say this kid has more raw talent at this stage than Sylvester Morris had at a similar stage. The BIG difference, however, is Morris worked his azz off to continually get better to the point where his ability could no longer be questioned. Ross didn't, and I again say that if he maintains this pre-madonna attitude he won't be a success anywhere, 'cause no coach worth his salt is gonna put up with such foolishness. I don't care if he's 6'9" with 4.1 speed.
jstate83
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MightyDog said:
Whatever ....................... you win. Don't have time for bamma's that don't know how too or want to read.
Man........... You type like Linus plays piano on a Charlie Brown cartoon.
Always looking down, fingers going, never looking at or understanding what's happin' or being said around him.
I'm sure the dogpound, houndpound or whatever Little Rascal's HeeMan Kennal Club you belong to luv ya for it. :wavey:
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
mighty hornet said:
That's only because Coe believes in the same type of offense, what if he didn't. The point is that I kept telling everyone that Coe would have installed his OWN system if he had time. Any coach would have done that. Now, he has time and he is implementing HIS system.
MACHIAVELLI
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Tigerpride said:
YOU SEE THE MESSEGE?
Tigerpride
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MACHIAVELLI said:
Uuuh, yeah and what is YOUR point?? What you highlighted is MY point?? Man, the band board is -------------------------->
HBCUs
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MikeBigg said:
The sad thing is Ross wasn't the only one to do this.... just one of the most important ones because of his obvious talent.
And as far as Kent was concerned, he was indeed a class act. Contrary to popular belief, Kent believed in the system and believed that the brand of football we were trying to play was in the best interest of the program. In fact, it was Kent who took it upon himself to personally speak to Mason on Bell's behalf at season's end. (Yes, the same Kent who people assumed was soooo miserable under Bell.) Why? Because he knew the team was loaded with Torrey Ross', and he knew that Bell was never given much a of fair shake last season. Fans and players alike went into the season with all kinds of negativity, and it inevitably ruined us. (Umm Mike, why didn't your source tell you to mention that fact back in December???)
Truth be known, Kent gained more from a developmental standpoint from playing in run-based sets this past season than he did in the previous two, despite less impressive numbers. This was the first year he actually improved his mechanics and game management since his freshman year. Don't ask me; ask the scouts.
Kent understood all of this. Somehow all the armchair QBs didn't.
MACHIAVELLI
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:lmao: The rain gave jackson a false sense of security. :lmao:Tigerpride said:
PV-PRIDE
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HBCUs said:The sad thing is Ross wasn't the only one to do this.... just one of the most important ones because of his obvious talent.
And as far as Kent was concerned, he was indeed a class act. Contrary to popular belief, Kent believed in the system and believed that the brand of football we were trying to play was in the best interest of the program. In fact, it was Kent who took it upon himself to personally speak to Mason on Bell's behalf at season's end. (Yes, the same Kent who people assumed was soooo miserable under Bell.) Why? Because he knew the team was loaded with Torrey Ross', and he knew that Bell was never given much a of fair shake last season. Fans and players alike went into the season with all kinds of negativity, and it inevitably ruined us. (Umm Mike, why didn't your source tell you to mention that fact back in December???)
Truth be known, Kent gained more from a developmental standpoint from playing in run-based sets this past season than he did in the previous two, despite less impressive numbers. This was the first year he actually improved his mechanics and game management since his freshman year. Don't ask me; ask the scouts.
Kent understood all of this. Somehow all the armchair QBs didn't.
Help me out here...............I'm trying to think of an HBCU quarterback making it in the league coming from a run-based set offense.........From what I have read in the past, scouts think an HBCU quarterback has to put up twice as many passing yards as his Division I counterpart to even get noticed.
mighty hornet
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Any coach worth his salt (thanks HBCUs) would evaluate the talent that is already in place and go with a system that is most conducive to that talent. That is just plain common sense. Forcing his own way is stupid and the 2-10 results speak for itself. Not to mention, you have talented players giving half arse efforts because they realize it is stupid too.Tigerpride said:
It's just kinda sad that none of you will call Bell on that. Yall make every excuse in the book (Hughes fault, the players fault), but for whatever reason, Bell just gets a free pass. And the sad part about it is that Bell hasn't proven that he knows what he's doing, as if he has some kind of history of success.
and what Coe is doing versus what Bell is doing is miles apart. Coe is changing the terminology, not junking the whole damn offense, just because he insists on installing "his" system.
but I digress
Hope Mr. Ross lands on his feet
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
mighty hornet said:
...again, the only REAL difference here is that both LC and Coe have the same philosophy..Bell does not....who says that if Coe was a run first coach that he would not have done the same thing that Bell did? Wasn't Coe a WR coach??
Tigerpride
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MACHIAVELLI said:
Mach, I was not there but I was unaware that it only rained on the shoulders and feet of Grambling players!! Did the rain give JSU an unfair advantage or something? Band man, fill me in!!!
Blacknbengal
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PV-PRIDE said:
Well, you can count Kent, cause he will be there.
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mighty hornet said:
Not true. Many of us have criticized Bell for mistakes he made this past season.... we simply don't see the need to air displeasure in an open forum. Plenty of yall do that for us.
mighty hornet said:
But the funny thing is folks on this board wanna critique (and smack) on two fronts: They ridicule Bell for not tailoring his system (which I think is a valid argument) and they ridicule our talent level on both our offensive and defensive lines (again valid), but they refuse to make the connection between the two and realize that our offensive front was too weak to adquately sustain any offense by the time this season rolled around-- even Asberrys. Yall know damn well those boys were piss poor at pass protection, even back when there was measurable talent in the trenches. We had 300 lb linemen that couldn't bench over 240 lbs. 240 lbs!!!!! Therefore, I can't totally fault Bell for shifting philosophy. He had to choose between running backs getting the hell knocked out of them or Kent dying in the pocket, so he chose the former. Honestly, Bell's offensive micromanagement is only thing I had a real problem with.
In retrospect I wish Hughes could've hung around one more year so that the bottom would've fallen out under his watch, rather than he get to ride off in the sunset while the next man took heat. The very best Hughes would've done last year was 6-6. We lost 4 close games last season that might've yielded a similar finish. But then again, another year of Hughes would've crippled us to the point of no return, so I guess justice can wait.
Bruh, you almost sound as though you think such immature behavior exhibited by grown men was justified. This can't be MH talking. You usually have no problem distinguishing between obvious right and wrong.
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