EX JSU WR Ross to Transfer


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MightyDog,

Please don't act like Torey Ross is the first transfer in the history of college sports. The kid was not happy with Hughes' and Asberry's firing, and he wasn't happy with Bell. He made all kinds of comments in the paper. Y'all remember the "Cadillac to a hoopty" comment. That was Ross. He didn't wanna be at JSU and played like it. We don't need that.

I wish him well, again.
 
And mighty hornet,

Please forgive us for not telling y'all everything we discuss in our private forum. But don't act like we never told y'all that there were certain players on the team not giving effort.
 



MightyDog said:
Yep and he is still on the team. Now you tell me how a coach let a 6-4 WR get away? A coach must be able to outsmart a 19 year old student athlete.

MD, Bell did all he could to try to de-c**n Ross but when Hughes and Asberry are in your head, they are in your head. Ross was doing more to hurt the team than help. More players like Chris Jones is what we need. I hope that any player that does not want to play for Bell goes ahead and leaves. We could use the scholarships to get some Bell recruited ATHLETES in Jackson.
 
MightyDog said:
Yep and he is still on the team.
And that is why you all will never win a Championship. Just because you all are happy just to have him STILL on the team. You all dont care if he can produce or not, just having him on the team is good enough for you. Now Tim Manning is 5'10 - 5'11 and plays like he's 6'5, but Ross is 6'4 and plays like he's 4'6. We're not happy with what Ross brought to the field. There is other 6'4 WRs that are happy he's gone, cause that means they will hit the field earlier now.
 
Rob and company ......... :swink: ,

Why do ya'll even bother explaining that LEADERS AT JSU DON'T BEG AND PLEAD WITH 19 YEAR OLDS. He has wanted out since last year. And on the real, I really don't think all those "dropped passes" were really "dropped passes" ............. if you know what I mean. He gone now. :headphone

Beggin is for smalltime programs that are scurrred they won't get anyone else. :smug2:
 
It's not like Bell was gonna use his receiver that much anyway. I doubt Ross would have made much of an impact this season regardless.

This is a smashmouth team now...well as much smashmouth as you can get without a decent O-line.
 
bornthrilla said:
It's not like Bell was gonna use his receiver that much anyway. I doubt Ross would have made much of an impact this season regardless.

This is a smashmouth team now...well as much smashmouth as you can get without a decent O-line.

Thrilla, we need fast and speedy receivers who can run good routes now. This is not a run and shoot where average players can look like superstars. Ross is average and he knows it. He has to work for every yard now. BTW, don't be surprised if Central installs a run and shoot featuring Ross. You all will lose to Central if that happens. A&T can't handle Asberry's run and shoot.
 
Tigerpride said:
BTW, don't be surprised if Central installs a run and shoot featuring Ross. You all will lose to Central if that happens. A&T can't handle Asberry's run and shoot.
Didnt Central already beat them without a run -n- shoot offense?
 
We still have Rob on the team and he is an outstanding young man. But sometimes a coach need to change to get the best out of an athlete. We have always believed that if we recruit your son or daughter or class "B" Dependents, it is our job to live up to what we promised. JSU has never had issues with ball players therefore I understand your situation. 83 is half right because the truth is, you cannot explain something you don't anything about.
 
The comments toward me in this thread are exactly the reason that I didn't say anything in the first place.

Since it's obvious that some of you are gonna poor-mouth the kid. I'll just go ahead and tell you that your season won't be much more than what it was last season. Your problems are still THE COACH, poor linemen on both sides of the ball and sorry special teams.

Wonder if Bell will rehash his You can keep that Black College football comment that C-Leb said he made after you guys start the firing process. He better be watching his sideline after another terrible start in 2004. He may catch Mason with his and Culbersons replacements standing there waiting for the season to be over.

:smh:
 
Mike said:
The comments toward me in this thread are exactly the reason that I didn't say anything in the first place.

Since it's obvious that some of you are gonna poor-mouth the kid. I'll just go ahead and tell you that your season won't be much more than what it was last season. Your problems are still THE COACH, poor linemen on both sides of the ball and sorry special teams.

Wonder if Bell will rehash his You can keep that Black College football comment that C-Leb said he made after you guys start the firing process. He better be watching his sideline after another terrible start in 2004. He may catch Mason with his and Culbersons replacements standing there waiting for the season to be over.

:smh:

Mike, I am sure that you have been in the Blue Bengal Den and you know that the things we are saying now are no different that we were saying about him this time last year. Also, the coach is not the problem. Hughes was. You will see things get better.

LOL@ the "firing process".
 
Mike said:
The comments toward me in this thread are exactly the reason that I didn't say anything in the first place.

Since it's obvious that some of you are gonna poor-mouth the kid. I'll just go ahead and tell you that your season won't be much more than what it was last season. Your problems are still THE COACH, poor linemen on both sides of the ball and sorry special teams.

Wonder if Bell will rehash his You can keep that Black College football comment that C-Leb said he made after you guys start the firing process. He better be watching his sideline after another terrible start in 2004. He may catch Mason with his and Culbersons replacements standing there waiting for the season to be over.

:smh:

Thank you for your sincere concern for JSU. :headphone
 
TP,

You don't have to go in your forum to see that Bell isn't a Head Coach. I can just look at his record and what he does everywhere he's been and tell you that you are facing the same problems as before. If you aresaying these things in your forum. It ain't my fault that you keep running out in public to defend someone that you know is not going to get the ball rolling in the right direction for you.

I guess you forgot to put misinformed in your post. Try to stay consistent, ok?

83,

I'm concerned for the mere fact that if jsu isn't the jsu of old, our conference RPI will continue to be low. A strong SWAC is what I want to see. I really don't care what you say, but I just thought I'd lift your veil for just a moment.

:smh:
 
Thrilla, we need fast and speedy receivers who can run good routes now.

No, you need big, strong receivers who can block down field. That is all Bell and Perry will be requiring from them. The most important positions on your team now (since you have no O-line) will be the fullback and tailback. If you get down by more than two scores you are in trouble.
 
TP,

I disagree that Ross is an "average" receiver. Dude has talent. He simply had no motivation to play for Bell. That's his problem. Young and impressionable. He wanted to transfer to a JUCO, after being at JSU for 2 years for goodness sake.
 



Mike said:
83,

I'm concerned for the mere fact that if jsu isn't the jsu of old, our conference RPI will continue to be low. A strong SWAC is what I want to see. I really don't care what you say, but I just thought I'd lift your veil for just a moment.

:smh:

I see what you are saying, but my veil been up. I said the middle of last season that ain't no need of byotchin' about Bell now. We stuck until his contract is up.

But at least he is recruiting the right players for the type of team he say he want's to bring JSU. I don't have NO PROBLEM with a running team. Won a bunch of championships in the '80's WITH teams that RAN FIRST, PASSED SECOND. :nod2:

If Bell can acheive this ......... can't tell ya. Last year's personel and offense change didn't leave people with anything to judge on. This year will tell. :swink:
 
83, We have the most experience in hiring Coaches and Presidents. Therefore, when Mike make a statement you should be more appreciative of his advice.
 
If you guys are satisfied with Bell then that's your perogative. But surely some of yall have got to be concerned that this isn't a repeat of what happened at Chavez High. Yall do remember that some posters mentioned a player "revolt" against Bell at Chavez.
 
MikeBigg,

I would expect a college Junior to be a lot more mature about a coaching change than a high school kid. Besides, you don't throw away any chance you may have at going to the next level by playing half ass football just because you're mad that your coach got replaced. Torey didn't bother trying to give Bell a chance. Same goes for the other players. They aren't just trying to hurt Bell. They're trying to hurt J-State. And that, my friend, we can't have.
 
Robber said:
MikeBigg,

I would expect a college Junior to be a lot more mature about a coaching change than a high school kid. Besides, you don't throw away any chance you may have at going to the next level by playing half ass football just because you're mad that your coach got replaced. Torey didn't bother trying to give Bell a chance. Same goes for the other players. They aren't just trying to hurt Bell. They're trying to hurt J-State. And that, my friend, we can't have.

Very good points Robber. You are more aware of the inner workings and know more than the rest of the non-Mafia posters. I'm just playing Devil's advocate...did Bell attempt to reconcile things before they got out of hand or did he just implement his policies and philosophies without considering that the players were recruited based upon a different scheme? I agree with your comments that the kid was wrong to play half-ass football. That wasn't fair to his teammates, the fans, and the legacy of Jackson State University football. All of which speaks adds to my respect for Robert Kent. The class manner in which he handled this is indicative of the calibre player and person that Kent will be on the next level
 
MightyDog said:
Now you tell me how a coach let a 6-4 WR get away? A coach must be able to outsmart a 19 year old student athlete.
:tup:
Apparently, according to some of the comments here, there were a whole lot of players that Bell failed to outsmart and failed to motivate. A good coach can do those things. But I guess when he's hellbent on forcing his system on players that obviously didn't fit, then this type stuff should be expected.

btw,
thanks rob for at least having the good sense to post that Ross is talented. I mean, the brotha had over 50 catches as a freshman, but now that he's left JSU, some of the people here will have you believe that he wasn't worth a crap.
 
MikeBigg said:
Very good points Robber. You are more aware of the inner workings and know more than the rest of the non-Mafia posters. I'm just playing Devil's advocate...did Bell attempt to reconcile things before they got out of hand or did he just implement his policies and philosophies without considering that the players were recruited based upon a different scheme? I agree with your comments that the kid was wrong to play half-ass football. That wasn't fair to his teammates, the fans, and the legacy of Jackson State University football. All of which speaks adds to my respect for Robert Kent. The class manner in which he handled this is indicative of the calibre player and person that Kent will be on the next level
:tup:
I knew there was a reason why I liked you "Island" guys. You talk with sense.
 
Blacknbengal said:
:tup:
I knew there was a reason why I liked you "Island" guys. You talk with sense.

just put a drank in our hands and sit across the domino table. we talk ignant and give knowledge at the same time.
 
MightyDog said:
83, We have the most experience in hiring Coaches and Presidents. Therefore, when Mike make a statement you should be more appreciative of his advice.


Dude .......... when you learn how to read and understand a person's answer, let me know. And the only experience you have is comming up short. :headphone
 
mighty hornet said:
:tup:
Apparently, according to some of the comments here, there were a whole lot of players that Bell failed to outsmart and failed to motivate. A good coach can do those things. But I guess when he's hellbent on forcing his system on players that obviously didn't fit, then this type stuff should be expected.

btw,
thanks rob for at least having the good sense to post that Ross is talented. I mean, the brotha had over 50 catches as a freshman, but now that he's left JSU, some of the people here will have you believe that he wasn't worth a crap.


MH, there is a big difference in catching a ball in a run and shoot offense and a pro-set. When you are the third receiver playing a team that has only two good DB's, you can catch some passes in 4 WR set.
 
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