Dr. Alan Keyes Trespass Warning - Notre Dame


ROYAL BLUE said:
The death you're mentioning is dealing with the "High Office", however it does not have anything to do with common people. God doesn't play when it comes to His priest and judgment starts at the pulpit. God killed a priest for touching the ark of the covenant after all priest were instructed not to touch the ark. The priest was trying to prevent the ark from falling off the cart, however God saw it as no excuse because that never would have happened if the priests had carried the ark as God instructed.

Again, I support all of God's scripture. Some of the things in the scripture may be a bit strong, but I would never tell God I disagree with Him.
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Dude, whether it's one person or a thousand, death is still pronounced if that person fornicates. You asked and I gave you a scripture.

What about this descrimination of handicapped people? What about God not being a respecter of persons? Sounds contradictory to me.
And what does a man's testicles and a woman's "period" have to do with anything? To believe ALL scripture, you'd have to believe this too.:lol:
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
Where is your proof?
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The proof is in the post that you read. Do your own research and prove me wrong.

How can you be a Christian and not mention Jesus Christ, God or Christianity?

The Treaty of Tripoli, which was ratified unanimously, and states that the government is in no way based on the Christian religion.

Folks were allowed to practice their own religion as they pleased and rightly so and the "founding fathers" stressed separation of church and state as is mentioned in the 1st Amendment.
 



coldsweat said:
The old heaven passed away as stated by scripture.



Blue, if there is no more sea as the scripture suggests, how can Humans survive? :confused: Surely this must mean that Earth is destroyed right! Destruction not in the sense that the Planet will blow up, but let's just say that Earth becomes what present day Mars is...uninhabitable! :nod:


Global warming in heaven? :confused: Huh! You're taking this stuff to literal. Perhaps what God mean was the "heavenly bodies above..i.e. the Milky Way Galaxy, etc. Who knows...maybe God will take us to a new planet and a new galaxy. :noidea:
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We will be in our spiritual bodies.......

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump(7th): for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

As you can see, heaven will be on earth........

Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

God allowed John to see in his vision this new city, the New Jerusalem; coming down to earth dressed in all its beauty. Christ made this New Jerusalem just as He would adorn it for His first love, His bride, and that is for you and me, that make up His church.

IMO, the sea will return to the heavens just like it was before Satan's rebellion. The dew will water the whole earth 24/7 and there will be lush greens everywhere. If this confuses you, then please read the article below.......

The Ice Age, the Bible, and the Woolly Mammoth

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/mammoth.html
 
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JayRob said:
Dude, whether it's one person or a thousand, death is still pronounced if that person fornicates. You asked and I gave you a scripture.

What about this descrimination of handicapped people? What about God not being a respecter of persons? Sounds contradictory to me.
And what does a man's testicles and a woman's "period" have to do with anything? To believe ALL scripture, you'd have to believe this too.:lol:
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No, you tried to make it seem as if God told folks to kill "everybody" who fornicates......He didn't.:lol:


What part of "all" don't you understand? You of all should know that I gladly stand by God and His word. My life, my soul, my food, my shelter and all that I have comes from God. If God decided to take my life today, then let His will be done. Everything I have is God's to do with as He pleases because I was created for His pleasure.........not mine.
 
JayRob said:
The proof is in the post that you read. Do your own research and prove me wrong.

How can you be a Christian and not mention Jesus Christ, God or Christianity?

The Treaty of Tripoli, which was ratified unanimously, and states that the government is in no way based on the Christian religion.

Folks were allowed to practice their own religion as they pleased and rightly so and the "founding fathers" stressed separation of church and state as is mentioned in the 1st Amendment.
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JayRob, you made the statement they were not Christians, therefore I simply asked you to post your source of proof.
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
No, you tried to make it seem as if God told folks to kill "everybody" who fornicates......He didn't.:lol:


What part of "all" don't you understand? You of all should know that I gladly stand by God and His word. My life, my soul, my food, my shelter and all that I have comes from God. If God decided to take my life today, then let His will be done. Everything I have is God's to do with as He pleases because I was created for His pleasure.........not mine.
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RB, isn't fornication sin? For the wages of sin is death, or did I misquote?
 
JayRob said:
RB, isn't fornication sin? For the wages of sin is death, or did I misquote?
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You're correct, and salvation defeated death on the cross.


1 Corinthians 15:55 "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

1 Corinthians 15:57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
This is the most amusing action I have seen in a while. The Catholic Church is anti death penalty, but they NEVER protested against George Bush. :lmao:

I guess those protesting Catholics have chosen to chose your sin politics verses the teachings of the church.
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
You're correct, and salvation defeated death on the cross.


1 Corinthians 15:55 "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"

1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

1 Corinthians 15:57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Dude, I'm talking about a physical law that was commanded in the Old Testament before Christ's death. You're talking about a "spiritual" law and salvation on the spiritual level, after Christ's death. I"m talking about the here and now.

If those OT scriptures are still in effect today (as you claim), then those laws and statutes commanded by God to kill disobedient children, to kill adulterers, to kill sabbath breakers, to kill liars, to kill thieves, etc, should STILL be in effect and practiced by those who claim to follow every word of God, including yourself.

It's quite obvious that you don't practice what you preach and thankfully we don't have anyone in the office of the Presidency who believes in that.
 
JayRob said:
Dude, I'm talking about a physical law that was commanded in the Old Testament before Christ's death. You're talking about a "spiritual" law and salvation on the spiritual level, after Christ's death. I"m talking about the here and now.

If those OT scriptures are still in effect today (as you claim), then those laws and statutes commanded by God to kill disobedient children, to kill adulterers, to kill sabbath breakers, to kill liars, to kill thieves, etc, should STILL be in effect and practiced by those who claim to follow every word of God, including yourself.

It's quite obvious that you don't practice what you preach and thankfully we don't have anyone in the office of the Presidency who believes in that.
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JayRob, I clearly stated that all of the OT laws are valid in God's eye. Do you know the difference between ordinance, statutes, and laws? The laws have never changed and this is a fact. Christians still follow the 10 commandments which are laws from the OT, however Christians chose not to follow all of God's law because they felt some of God's laws were too harsh. This change was made by men and not God. This is why Christ made it clear that His coming and new covenant in no way will void God's law. Again, the 10 commandments are God's laws, and most American Christians have the 10 commandments hanging on a wall in their home. If the law in the OT was done away with, then why are Christians following the 10 commandments?

Salvation has nothing to do with the law, and the thief on the cross proved this to be true.

Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
 
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ROYAL BLUE said:
JayRob, I clearly stated that all of the OT laws are valid in God's eye. Do you know the difference between ordinance, statutes, and laws? The laws have never changed and this is a fact. Christians still follow the 10 commandments which are laws from the OT, however Christians chose not to follow all of God's law because they felt some of God's laws were too harsh. This change was made by men and not God. This is why Christ made it clear that His coming and new covenant in no way will void God's law. Again, the 10 commandments are God's laws, and most American Christians have the 10 commandments hanging on a wall in their home. If the law in the OT was done away with, then why are Christians following the 10 commandments?

Salvation has nothing to do with the law, and the thief on the cross proved this to be true.

Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
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Blah, blah, blah. Not ONE jot or tittle. If you offend in one, you offend in all.

And the law has much to do with salvation. I'll prove it in two verses....

For the wages of SIN is death (Rom. 6:23) and "sin is the transgression of the LAW. (1John 3:4).
Without the law, Paul says he would not have known sin, so the law has much to do with salvation. Try not following it, and see if you'll be "saved".:lol:
 
JayRob said:
Blah, blah, blah. Not ONE jot or tittle. If you offend in one, you offend in all.

And the law has much to do with salvation. I'll prove it in two verses....

For the wages of SIN is death (Rom. 6:23) and "sin is the transgression of the LAW. (1John 3:4).
Without the law, Paul says he would not have known sin, so the law has much to do with salvation. Try not following it, and see if you'll be "saved".:lol:
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Are you saying the law does the saving? I was taught that the law keeps you out of trouble, however it has no power to save.

Where is the reference to salvation in that verse?
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
Are you saying the law does the saving? I was taught that the law keeps you out of trouble, however it has no power to save.

Where is the reference to salvation in that verse?
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You said the law has nothing to do with salvation, but I say that's not true at all. I even gave you verses to ponder over, simple verses that if rightly applied, clearly show that salvation has a lot to do with what some called, "being saved".
 
JayRob said:
You said the law has nothing to do with salvation, but I say that's not true at all. I even gave you verses to ponder over, simple verses that if rightly applied, clearly show that salvation has a lot to do with what some called, "being saved".
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JayRob, I clearly stated the law can't save a human being and that's a fact. The law teaches you right from wrong, keeps you out of trouble, and rightfully punishes, however it has nothing to do with salvation. Again, the thief on the cross proves this to be true; the law sentenced him to death and Christ gave him eternal life.
 



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