Does it really matter where you receive your degree from?


Of course a degree in Computer Science from MIT will open doors that a C.S. degree from Alabama A&M will not. Simply because MIT is widely considered to be the top computer and engineering school in the country. However when looking at state supported institutions. If you take two students with the same GPA and same overall qualifications one from University of Alabama and one from AAMU, I don't think that a C.S. degree from Alabama holds any more weight than a degree from Alabama A&M. However, when answering this question I think you have to take into account that some of your "upper tier" schools (i.e. Ivy League schools, MIT, USC and etc) are generally considered better than others, but when comparing most state supported schools I don't think that one degree is any better than the other. If the person doing the hiring is a grad of a particular PWC and the application is a grad of that same PWC then you may see some favoritism, otherwise I don't think it really matters one way or the other. As a matter of fact from a overall knowledge and preparation stand point I am willing to bet that a student from A&M may have more knowledge and will be more prepared to enter the work force than a student from Alabama or any other PWC in the state. At least that has been my experience in the work place.
 
Your skin tone is what really matters. Some have that color that some people are looking for. Sad but true. 1907 same as 2007.
 



CEE DOG said:
Your skin tone is what really matters. Some have that color that some people are looking for. Sad but true. 1907 same as 2007.
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Sad to say, but skin tones (overall physical appearance, too) does play a part sometimes in getting/not getting a job.
 
ALPHA3 said:
Sure. Sat in on an interview last week, and this lady was asked to do a writing sample. She had the nerve to ask for a pen and went on to say she didn't have one was because it was raining. We asked her if she knew anything about our agency and she said I only know what the job announcement stated. We asked why she didn't just go to our website and get specific information. She said no one told her she could do that. Asked her who is the current Governor of Louisiana and she said President Bush.
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Dayum! lol
 
ALPHA3 said:
Sure. Sat in on an interview last week, and this lady was asked to do a writing sample. She had the nerve to ask for a pen and went on to say she didn't have one was because it was raining. We asked her if she knew anything about our agency and she said I only know what the job announcement stated. We asked why she didn't just go to our website and get specific information. She said no one told her she could do that. Asked her who is the current Governor of Louisiana and she said President Bush.
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Woo, Jesus! :lmao: :bawling: :lmao: :whine: :lmao: I bet she'll get the job! :lmao: :smh: :lmao: Just kidding. :dead:
 
A recent research study, by a professor at VA Tech and a recent graduate of VT, was recently published on this issue.

A portion of the article appears below with a link to the full article (that link may only work for a few days). If you want to see the rest of the article send me a PM and I can get you access to it.

http://chronicle.com/temp/email2.php?id=cqW4hQBjxvgNKSdKmtV9r5rnfPghdPfg

Attending a Black College Seems to Lead to Higher Earnings for Black Men, Study Finds

[SIZE=-1]By PETER SCHMIDT[/SIZE]


Black men who attended historically black colleges and universities in the late 1970s and early 1980s enjoyed higher lifetime earnings than those who attended other four-year colleges and universities, according to a study released on Thursday by two Virginia Tech researchers.

The researchers -- Bradford F. Mills Jr., a professor of agriculture and applied economics at Virginia Tech, and Elton Mykerezi, a recent graduate of that department -- found that the black men in their study did not reap any benefit from attending a black college immediately upon graduating.

But over their lifetimes, their wages increased 1.4 percent to 1.6 percent faster per year than did the pay of black men who had attended other colleges, according to a paper describing the study, "The Wage Earnings Impact of Historically Black Colleges and Universities," which has been accepted for publication in the Southern Economic Journal.

Mr. Mills and Mr. Mykerezi did not find similar results for black women in the same age group as the men studied. Over the long run, women who attended historically black colleges and universities earned about the same amount as those who attended other four-year institutions. The researchers said their study did not explain why that is so.
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This is why I don't understand why blacks to to PWCs. HBCUs have produced the most Ph.D's, doctors, lawyers, and scientists in the black community. PWC's just want our numbers and they sometime ruin lives. We encourage. They discourage.
 
Tigerpride said:
This is why I don't understand why blacks to to PWCs. HBCUs have produced the most Ph.D's, doctors, lawyers, and scientists in the black community. PWC's just want our numbers and they sometime ruin lives. We encourage. They discourage.
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Maybe it's because it's their choice.
Maybe it's because it was a financial decision.
Maybe it's because you/your parents were not responsible for paying their tuition.
 
SIR_GRAM said:
I was told that it is frowned upon by Employers when you attend both Undergrad and Grad school for your degrees.

I was told that a degree from a PWC is always better than a degree from a HBCU?

Does it matter, is it a big difference?

What are your opinions?
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It actually does matter...thats how your salary is given...at least for new grads. I have heard way to many times of PWC grads starting off higher than HBCU grads. Ask any honest recruiter and they will tell you the same.
 
da_caramel_diva said:
It actually does matter...thats how your salary is given...at least for new grads. I have heard way to many times of PWC grads starting off higher than HBCU grads. Ask any honest recruiter and they will tell you the same.
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This is true....hell it's going on here at this damn place i call an employer
 



da_caramel_diva said:
It actually does matter...thats how your salary is given...at least for new grads. I have heard way to many times of PWC grads starting off higher than HBCU grads. Ask any honest recruiter and they will tell you the same.
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It matters if you are white or black, male or female regardless of school also. What you need to know as a new grad is the average entry-level salaries in your field and negotiate.
 
Again, you have to look at what career is in question. A teacher who graduated from the Texas Christian University won't make a dime more than a teacher who graduated from PVU.

An engineer from Texas A&M may make a little more than an engineer from PVU. However, over the course of time, it is likely the PVU grad could make more as an engineer than the A&M grad.

Now, a stock broker on Wall Street from Georgetown is more than likely going to make more than his counter part from UAPB.

Sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't and it depends on a few factors.

I have high school classmates who went to SMU and took out student loans of $25K per year for 4 years to get a degree from SMU and their starting pay was $40K. Was it worth it?
 
Tigerpride said:
You missed the point...typical.
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You can list 10,000 more reasons why a person should attend a HBCU or PWC all you want. Just rememeber people have the right to choose which type they want to attend. I could care less if person attends a HBCU or a PWC, earning the degree/degrees it what matters. Your initial statement can apply to both.
 
I think it is based on your qualifications that fit the job and not the school in most cases.
When I was applying for a position at a newspaper I asked the recruiter does it matter what school you go to and he said no. In my field, recruiters don't care what school you go to as long as you can produce good copy or broadcasts.

But I know it is not the case in every field. I don't think it's the school more than what you were learned and internships you had that is appealing to employers. Some schools don't have the same technology as others that will prepared students for post-grad jobs. That might be the difference.
 
kendrick said:
I think it is based on your qualifications that fit the job and not the school in most cases.
When I was applying for a position at a newspaper I asked the recruiter does it matter what school you go to and he said no. In my field, recruiters don't care what school you go to as long as you can produce good copy or broadcasts.
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:nod:
 
ALPHA3 said:
You can list 10,000 more reasons why a person should attend a HBCU or PWC all you want. Just rememeber people have the right to choose which type they want to attend. I could care less if person attends a HBCU or a PWC, earning the degree/degrees it what matters. Your initial statement can apply to both.
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Not the point. It is their choice. Never did I say it wasn't. However, most of these decisions are uneducated decisions. Yes, the degree is the important thing but I have seen time and time again, situations where kids did not belong at PWCs but went there solely becasue they are white. But you are right. If the kid chooses to go there and spend the money, that is up to them and their parents. Some PWC's even let blacks go there dayum near free but money, whose choice it was, etc...was not my concern.
 
Da_Sperm said:
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I have high school classmates who went to SMU and took out student loans of $25K per year for 4 years to get a degree from SMU and their starting pay was $40K. Was it worth it?
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They didn't know any better. 9/10, it wasn't worth it. I see the same thing with people who went to Morehouse and Clark-Atlanta. Most Morehouse people just love being Morehouse Men so to them it is worth it...but I have met a lot of people who simply regret going to Clark. A lot of people let rankings make their decision without knowing the context of such.
 
Tigerpride said:
They didn't know any better. 9/10, it wasn't worth it. I see the same thing with people who went to Morehouse and Clark-Atlanta. Most Morehouse people just love being Morehouse Men so to them it is worth it...but I have met a lot of people who simply regret going to Clark. A lot of people let rankings make their decision without knowing the context of such.
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My brother is a Morehouse grad! He's actually doing well in his career.
 
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