Clinton best pick for Democratic Party

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You keep bringing up war. Do you realize how America economics work? If so you would understand why wars will always be a part of it.

I know enough about the economy to know that a slight shift in priorities won't hurt it. No one is asking to never go to war. Defense will always be a top priority and a major portion of the U.S. economy.

But home sales, home appliances/furniture sales, car sales and other higher priced consumer goods would be much more stable over the next 10 years with lighter student loan burdens.

A lot of people aged 25 to 35 are putting off buying homes and starting families in record numbers because of student loan debt.
 
I know enough about the economy to know that a slight shift in priorities won't hurt it. No one is asking to never go to war. Defense will always be a top priority and a major portion of the U.S. economy.

But home sales, home appliances/furniture sales, car sales and other higher priced consumer goods would be much more stable over the next 10 years with lighter student loan burdens.

A lot of people aged 25 to 35 are putting off buying homes and starting families in record numbers because of student loan debt.

Everybody who goes to college does not leave with student loan debt. Going to college is a choice. Getting a student loan is a choice. It is still possible to get a college education without student loan debt…..not easy but possible. A free college education should be EARNED and not given.
 



Everybody who goes to college does not leave with student loan debt. Going to college is a choice. Getting a student loan is a choice. It is still possible to get a college education without student loan debt…..not easy but possible. A free college education should be EARNED and not given.

Sure, it's possible. I'm sure anyone could work part time (or full time) and put themselves through college.

Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should.
 
Sure, it's possible. I'm sure anyone could work part time (or full time) and put themselves through college.

Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should.


What’s wrong with ole fashion keeping your grades up in high school to earn a free ride so you won’t have to work or get into debt? Also, if you make college free you really will have mofos staying in school 10, 15, and 20 for a free bed, 3 meals a day, cable TV and internet.
 
I look at the Bernie Sanders claims or promises about the big banks as like me saying I’m going to go beat Lebron James in a game of basketball. It’s not going to happens. The big banks have controlled many presidents in the past, so what makes Sanders any different?
The banking system in America runs the country and economy. Simple as that. Sanders knows this but he wants to be president so he will pander.
 
What’s wrong with ole fashion keeping your grades up in high school to earn a free ride so you won’t have to work or get into debt? Also, if you make college free you really will have mofos staying in school 10, 15, and 20 for a free bed, 3 meals a day, cable TV and internet.

Because not every 14-18 year old is capable or in a situation to make a 3.8+ GPA. Some high school students work part time to supplement family income and thus spend less time on academics than middle/upper-middle class students. This does not make them any less college material. There are plenty of 2.5 HS students who mature with age and perform better in college.

And there can be restrictions put on the free tuition. No more than 4 or 5 years, must pay room & board, etc. Also, universities don't have to admit all who apply. Every university also has academic standards to weed out those who don't do their work in the classroom.

Federally subsidized college tuition would help out public HBCUs (and other public universities) because not only would it provide enrollment safeguards, it also allows administrators to use alumni giving toward things other than academic scholarships.

The "good ole fashioned" days are long gone. This isnt the America of the 1970s and 80s. But since everyone isn't capable of seeing past their own bubble, there's no need for me to keep explaining this.
 
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I look at the Bernie Sanders claims or promises about the big banks as like me saying I’m going to go beat Lebron James in a game of basketball. It’s not going to happens. The big banks have controlled many presidents in the past, so what makes Sanders any different?


As I recalled they said the same thing about electing a black president. But it happen because people had the courage not to buy into the bullshit.
 
As I recalled they said the same thing about electing a black president. But it happen because people had the courage not to buy into the bullshit.

Not necessarily, Obama's main backer was Wall Street as Hilary Clinton. This is why some are calling a Hilary Clinton presidency Obama's third term. Obama passed through some banking reforms, but banking and Wall Street have become a blurred line. That's the problem. Therefore, it's kind of hard to tell if Obama did anything that actually hurt the banks since they have had record profits for the last five years. Furthermore, Obama 's white grandmother was president of the powerful Bank of Hawaii. If Sanders can give real banking reforms, he would be the first since Andrew Jackson.
 
Not necessarily, Obama's main backer was Wall Street as Hilary Clinton. This is why some are calling a Hilary Clinton presidency Obama's third term. Obama passed through some banking reforms, but banking and Wall Street have become a blurred line. That's the problem. Therefore, it's kind of hard to tell if Obama did anything that actually hurt the banks since they have had record profits for the last five years. Furthermore, Obama 's white grandmother was president of the powerful Bank of Hawaii. If Sanders can give real banking reforms, he would be the first since Andrew Jackson.


And what does any of that have to with the fact that nobody ever thought they would see a black president in their life time?
 
Because not every 14-18 year old is capable or in a situation to make a 3.8+ GPA. Some high school students work part time to supplement family income and thus spend less time on academics than middle/upper-middle class students. This does not make them any less college material. There are plenty of 2.5 HS students who mature with age and perform better in college.

And there can be restrictions put on the free tuition. No more than 4 or 5 years, must pay room & board, etc. Also, universities don't have to admit all who apply. Every university also has academic standards to weed out those who don't do their work in the classroom.

Federally subsidized college tuition would help out public HBCUs (and other public universities) because not only would it provide enrollment safeguards, it also allows administrators to use alumni giving toward things other than academic scholarships.

The "good ole fashioned" days are long gone. This isnt the America of the 1970s and 80s. But since everyone isn't capable of seeing past their own bubble, there's no need for me to keep explaining this.


If you have a good ghetto story, you can go to school for free anyway. Free college would be unsustainable. Research the TOPS program in Louisiana. You'll see how it started out being for underprivileged minorities but ended up being used more by middle-class whites. You make college free it would be the end of HBCUs as we know them.
 
If you have a good ghetto story, you can go to school for free anyway. Free college would be unsustainable. Research the TOPS program in Louisiana. You'll see how it started out being for underprivileged minorities but ended up being used more by middle-class whites. You make college free it would be the end of HBCUs as we know them.

TOPS isn't funded by the federal government. TOPS is funded by Louisiana, and Louisiana is BROKE.
 



Some of yall are conservative as southern whites when it comes to your own people LOL/SMH.

And black folks wonder why we haven't gained any economic ground.

The next generation of blacks has been sold up the river by their elders through greed and ignorance. Its sad to watch folks do this to their own people.
 
It should be over for Hillary: Party elites and MSNBC can’t prop her up after Bernie’s Michigan miracle

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/09/it_...t_prop_her_up_after_bernies_michigan_miracle/

Voters sense she’s just moving pawns on a chess board in part because she can never explain her change of heart and often doesn’t even try. She switched horses on global trade in a blog post, on the Keystone pipeline at a grammar school event. In a recent debate she left fracking to the GOP governors who covered themselves in glory on Obamacare, as if it were a states’ rights issue. With her Super PAC (and hers and Bill’s breathtaking haul of $153 million in mostly corporate speaking fees), she is the living avatar of pay to play politics. She shouldn’t be the Democratic nominee for president because she doesn’t even know it’s wrong.
 
TOPS isn't funded by the federal government. TOPS is funded by Louisiana, and Louisiana is BROKE.

Yes I know TOPS is state funded but I was referring to the concept or the fiscal policy. Federal funds are not unlimited. They run out just like state funds in some cases quicker. One of things that the TOPS program didn’t take into account from the start (before Bobby Jindal) is the rise in the cost of college. Instead of making college free, a greater service would be to find a way to control the cost of college so a person can pay for it easily or at least the free money that is already out there can pay for all of the cost of going to school.
 
Some of yall are conservative as southern whites when it comes to your own people LOL/SMH.

And black folks wonder why we haven't gained any economic ground.

The next generation of blacks has been sold up the river by their elders through greed and ignorance. Its sad to watch folks do this to their own people.

We have not gained any economic ground is because our propensity to depend on others as opposed to doing it ourselves. We buy what we want but beg for what we need.
 
What’s wrong with ole fashion keeping your grades up in high school to earn a free ride so you won’t have to work or get into debt? Also, if you make college free you really will have mofos staying in school 10, 15, and 20 for a free bed, 3 meals a day, cable TV and internet.

Don't worry, free tuition isn't going to happen, just another one of Sanders "pie in the sky" ideas! A free tuition bill will not get out of committee in a Republican led Congress!
 
Free tuition won
Don't worry, free tuition isn't going to happen, just another one of Sanders "pie in the sky" ideas! A free tuition bill will not get out of committee in a Republican led Congress!
Free tuition won't happen but not because of congress, at least not for the reason you said. It won't happen because our current model for college would make it disastrous. The only one to make college free would be price controls which would be a no-go.
 
Yes I know TOPS is state funded but I was referring to the concept or the fiscal policy. Federal funds are not unlimited. They run out just like state funds in some cases quicker. One of things that the TOPS program didn’t take into account from the start (before Bobby Jindal) is the rise in the cost of college. Instead of making college free, a greater service would be to find a way to control the cost of college so a person can pay for it easily or at least the free money that is already out there can pay for all of the cost of going to school.
That one is pretty simple. Take away Title IV for schools that raise tuition greater than cpi.
 
It's simple if folks want free college join the Armed forces. The Coast guard, Air force, Navy, Marines, Army and National guard is signing folks up every day.

Some of yall are conservative as southern whites when it comes to your own people LOL/SMH.

And black folks wonder why we haven't gained any economic ground.

The next generation of blacks has been sold up the river by their elders through greed and ignorance. Its sad to watch folks do this to their own people.
 
TOPS isn't funded by the federal government. TOPS is funded by Louisiana, and Louisiana is BROKE.
Bernie's free college bill requires the states to provide matching funds at 50% of the federal funding. So basically if Tuition is $10K, the feds provide ~$6700 and the state provides ~$3300 of that amount per student to the college to cover the tuition cost.
 
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