Bayou Classic News....


cat daddy

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I really didn't expect the game to be moved. It is official now for at least 4 more years.

http://www.theadvocate.com/stories/111502/spo_bayou001.shtml


Bayou Classic Staying

By SCOTT DYER
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Capitol news bureau

The Bayou Classic will stay in the Big Easy for at least four more years.

Complaints about high hotel prices in New Orleans on an otherwise slow Thanksgiving weekend had officials from the two colleges threatening to take their annual football showdown elsewhere when their 10-year deal with the Superdome expired last November.

But Southern University officials said offers from Houston, Orlando, and other cities helped to give Southern University and Grambling some leverage in negotiating a new four-year deal with the Superdome and special prices with New Orleans hotels.

Houston had offered to hold the hotel rates below $125 a night, and had promised to make many of the rooms available for less than $100 a night.

Last year, the average New Orleans hotel room cost more than $200 a night during the Bayou Classic, prompting concern from some Southern University board members that students were getting priced out of the market.

This year, many New Orleans hotels have agreed to set aside blocks of rooms for the Bayou Classic at special prices ranging from $100 to $150 a night, according to Donald Wade, president of Southern University's alumni federation.

"We went down and sat down with the hotels, and what we basically did was to get them down close to the prices that they charge for the Essence Festival," Wade said.

The Essence Music Festival, held annually in New Orleans, attracts thousands of fans each July by showcasing black music.

The alumni's negotiations were aided by a resolution passed earlier this year by the New Orleans City Council, urging the hotels to charge similar rates to those for the Essence Festival.

In all, nearly 10,000 hotel rooms are covered under the alumni federation's agreement, Wade said.

"We took several of the larger hotels like the Hyatt Regency, the Fairmont and the Intercontinental, and booked those rooms through our office," Wade said.

The Hyatt Regency New Orleans has set aside a limited block of rooms that cost $148 for a king, compared to $149 for the Essence festival.

And the Holiday Inn French Quarter has set aside a block of rooms for the Classic at $129 a night, which is lower than their Essence rate of $143 a night.

Other hotels are charging slightly higher than for the Essence Festival, but still substantially less than for last year's Bayou Classic.

Most of the hotels continue to require a two-night minimum for the Bayou Classic, Wade said.

Wade said fans can take advantage of the special rates at other hotels by asking for the "alumni rate."

"Unless you ask for the alumni rate, they're going to give you the regular price," Wade said.

In addition to the better hotel rates, the Bayou Classic also scored a better deal with the Superdome.

Southern University System Vice President Ralph Slaughter said Grambling and Southern were paying about $100,0000 a year to rent the Louisiana Superdome under the 10-year deal that expired last November.

"The new four-year contract with the Superdome states that the rent cannot exceed $50,000," Slaughter said, noting the Bayou Classic will receive an attendance credit that could drop the actual cost even more.

The leverage in the Superdome negotiations came from Houston, which offered the use of its new retractable-roof, 69,500-seat Reliant Stadium to the two schools for only $35,000 a year.

"It made everybody sit up and take notice," Slaughter said.

Houston also offered to cover many of the game-day expenses, such as security and ushers during a proposed two-year contract.

Last year, the Superdome charged the schools more than $150,000 for game-day expenses.

Those costs are still there this year, but Slaughter noted a special $100,000 appropriation from the Louisiana Legislature is helping ease the sting of those costs.

"We need to give credit to the governor, because it helped that his people got involved -- particularly (former chief of staff) Steve Perry and (assistant chief of staff) Rodney Braxton," Slaughter said.

Slaughter said the state had already been subsidizing other major bowl games and tournaments.

For instance, the state is allocating $1.1 million this year for the Sugar Bowl, $950,000 for the NCAA Men's Final Four in New Orleans and $375,000 for the Independence Bowl in Shreveport.

And the state is forking out $350,000 for the New Orleans Bowl, a fledgling bowl game that for the next four years will pit a school from the Sun Belt Conference against a representative of Conference USA.

This is the second year that the state has subsidized the New Orleans Bowl.

State officials are hoping that replacing the Mountain West Conference with the Sun Belt Conference will attract a larger following that last year's crowd of 18,898, which had an estimated economic impact of $15 million on the state.

By contrast, the Bayou Classic almost always sells out the 72,000-seat Superdome and attracts nearly 200,000 to New Orleans on what would otherwise be a slow Thanksgiving weekend. Last year, New Orleans city officials estimated the economic impact on their city at about $50 million.

"The $100,000 appropriation is a nice start, but we have a lot bigger economic impact than some of those other events and we're hoping for a little more equity," Slaughter said.

Tickets for the annual football game between Southern University and Grambling go on sale to the general public Tuesday.

The tickets for the general public range in cost from $25 to $36, and will be available Tuesday at Ticketmaster outlets, the Superdome and Southern University Ticket Office. For more information, call 359-9328.
 



I WISH IT MOVED TO HOUSTON.CHEAPER HOTELS RATES AND BETTER FACILITY THAT DOES NOT LEAK DURING GAMES. HOUSTON WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT. ASTROWORLD AND MANY OTHER SITES INSTEAD OF HOTEL OVERPRICING . I THINK IN FOUR YEARS THEY WILL GO TO HOUSTON AND SO WILL THE SCG.PROPS TO SLAUGHTER AND OTHERS FOR GOOD NEGOTIATING TACTICS ESPECALLY USING THE RELIANT FOR LEVERAGE. 100,000 FOR THAT LEAKING ASS DOME.
 
Originally posted by STC_60
I WISH IT MOVED TO HOUSTON.

You can't take a Louisiana tradition and move OUT of the State of Louisiana. Name one intrastate rivalry game that would move the game to another state?
 
HOW MANY WERE PRICE GOUGING LIKE THE CLASSIC WAS. ROOMS FOR THE SUPER BOWL DID NOT COST AS MUCH AS BAYOU CLASSIC DOES.YOU MIGHT AS WELL GET READY IN 4 YRS CAUSE IT WON'T LAST. N.O. CANNOT COMPETE WITH HOUSTON . THE ONLY REASON THE GAME STAYED IS BECAUSE THE DEAL WAS LATE BEING FINISHED.
 
I for one don't spend my money in New Orleans during Bayou Classic weekend. My eyes were opened years ago to the price gouging that goes on down there. I am a proponent of moving the game to S'port for a couple of years and to BR for two years and then go back to New Orleans to see what they bring to the table.
 
Originally posted by MACHIAVELLI
I WOULD RATHER PLAY HOME & HOME BEFORE MOVING THE GAME TO HOUSTON. HOUSTON HAS NOTHING TO OFFER.

your right it does not. we only have a $400 million dollar stadium with state-of-the-art features along with tons of free space that does not smell like urine. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by cat daddy


Name one intrastate rivalry game that would move the game to another state?

its not interstate but S C State and NC A&T moved the Carolina Classic to Atlanta this year.
 
true...

I too am tired of the hotel prices but the Classic just wouldn't be the same anywhere else. What needs to be done is negotiation with the local chamber of commerce. Although they've dropped the prices a little it's still way to expensive.
Any suggestions on what else could be done to lessen the economic burden on our pockets?
 
Originally posted by Blu Panther


your right it does not. we only have a $400 million dollar stadium with state-of-the-art features along with tons of free space that does not smell like urine. :rolleyes:

THE FACT THAT IT IS IN HOUSTON SAYS IT ALL. WE DON'T HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME IN A DOME. SHREVEPORT WILL DO JUST FINE. EVEN THOUGH I AM SURE THE GAME WOULD DO BETTER THAN PV AND TXSU GAMES COMBINED FOR 3 YEARS...I DON'T WANT 450K OF LOUISIANA MONEY IMPACTING TEXAS...THAT MONEY NEEDS TO STAY IN LOUISIANA.
 
Originally posted by MACHIAVELLI


I DON'T WANT 450K OF LOUISIANA MONEY IMPACTING TEXAS...THAT MONEY NEEDS TO STAY IN LOUISIANA.

This is what I've been saying. It makes no sense to take such an economic shot in the arm to another state.
 
Continue to negotiate with New Orleans, but NEVER move the game out of Louisiana. I would like to see it become a Baton Rouge/Shreveport game anyway. The game does not have to be an "inside" game.

The Bayou Classic is not about the students...it has become a place for administrators and their 'buddies' to spend the taxpayers dollars on their "holiday weekend getaway". Moving it to Shreveport and BR will not curtail that, but it will give the students a cheaper alternative.

However, I agree with Cat Daddy. I wish those folk who are in driving distance would drive down for the game and events. Even if it meant getting a room in Houma or Mississippi. I wouldn't even frequent the French Quarters (at least not to spend cash...those mofos are ungrateful and act like they are doing us a favor).
 



Originally posted by MACHIAVELLI
I WOULD RATHER PLAY HOME & HOME BEFORE MOVING THE GAME TO HOUSTON. HOUSTON HAS NOTHING TO OFFER.

Houston's offer was still better than what ya'll got from New Orleans. They are giving the New Orleans Bowl & the Independance Bowl $350K each, while the Bayou Classic brings more fans than those 2 bowls combined and they only get $100K .:rolleyes:

They are comparing the Essence Jazz Festival with the Bayou Classic for hotel rates and they are only giving you this if you commit to 2 nights minimum on Thanksgiving weekend......this doesn't make sense.


Originally posted by MACHIAVELLI


I DON'T WANT 450K OF LOUISIANA MONEY IMPACTING TEXAS...THAT MONEY NEEDS TO STAY IN LOUISIANA

So you would rather spend 4 times the amount of money for the same thing just to keep it in Louisiana? :rolleyes:

Sometimes you have to stand your ground and show them you have economic power. Move it for 2 years and they will come to the bargaining table w/ a real meal rather than the appetizer you got. And that appetizer still cost you more than the full course Houston was offering.
 
Originally posted by Fiyah



So you would rather spend 4 times the amount of money for the same thing just to keep it in Louisiana? :rolleyes:

Sometimes you have to stand your ground and show them you have economic power. Move it for 2 years and they will come to the bargaining table w/ a real meal rather than the appetizer you got. And that appetizer still cost you more than the full course Houston was offering.

FORGET HOUSTON.....THAT IS WHY I SAID MOVE THE GAME TO SHREVEPORT. I'M SURE WE COULD GET THE STADIUM FOR FREE. STADIUM HOLDS ABOUT 60K+. THE 2 YEAR STINT AWAY FROM NEW ORLEANS WOULD BE AN AFTER THOUGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY THE GAME OUTSIDE FOR A FEW YEARS ANYWAY. PEOPLE GET SO CAUGHT UP IN PLAYING DOMES. I WOULDN'T HAVE SIGNED A 4 YEAR DEAL WITH NEW ORLEANS. MOVE THE GAME TO SHREVEPORT.
 
The Bayou Classic is not about the students...it has become a place for administrators and their 'buddies' to spend the taxpayers dollars on their "holiday weekend getaway".

So true, so true.....

However, I would leave the game in new orleans and continue to negotiate. If the fans want to make an economic impact, those who can, should drive down just for the game and drive back home afterwards. Those who can't should stay home and watch it on television. In one year, I guarantee you that the city of new orleans will feel the impact.

Moving a game like this to Houston would kill it. Sure Houston is offering the low rental costs and cheaper hotel rates, but in New Orleans, the Quarters is the designated area for people to hang out? What area would you designate in Houston? In New Orleans, you can walk in damn near any place of business and walk out with your drink and into the streets. Where in houston can you do that? In New Orleans, you can purchase alcohol throughout the night, into the next morning. Hey Houston.... You would definitely have a problem. The Bayou Classic is NOT just a football game anymore. It's much much bigger than that.
 
Originally posted by MikeBigg
Continue to negotiate with New Orleans, but NEVER move the game out of Louisiana. I would like to see it become a Baton Rouge/Shreveport game anyway. The game does not have to be an "inside" game.

The Bayou Classic is not about the students...it has become a place for administrators and their 'buddies' to spend the taxpayers dollars on their "holiday weekend getaway". Moving it to Shreveport and BR will not curtail that, but it will give the students a cheaper alternative.

However, I agree with Cat Daddy. I wish those folk who are in driving distance would drive down for the game and events. Even if it meant getting a room in Houma or Mississippi. I wouldn't even frequent the French Quarters (at least not to spend cash...those mofos are ungrateful and act like they are doing us a favor).


MB,

This game will not be moved to Baton Rouge cuz it's the home of SUperior. U mofos already complain about traveling to N.O. saying it's closer for us and too far for y'all. Now, y'all will be fine with Shreveport, cuz it's close.

:rolleyes:
 
DTown,

We would not have a problem with the game being a home and home between S'Port and BR. It would put the old school rivalry back into the game because the students could be more involved.
 
There are many Gramblinites living in the Greater Baton Rouge Area and South Louisiana. Actually probably more than in North La. So we would have no problem playing the game in Baton Rouge. Hell, we recruit Baton Rouge like a mofo...it would be to our advantage to play it here.

You acting like we wouldn't kick your azz on the slippery side of an ice mountain. We'd whip yall underwater with ankle weights.
Yall got as much chance of winning as Michael Jackson has of growing a natural.
 
Originally posted by MikeBigg
Yall got as much chance of winning as Michael Jackson has of growing a natural.

Growing a natural? How about growing a new nose? Sorry, I know this isn't the MJ thread but dayummmmmmm.

Pinocchio send help!!!!!
 
I didnt hear anyone complaining about the Circle City Classic room rates, they had rooms in downtown Indy that started at $165 and went up past $200 per nite. Folks didnt complain about that so whats the deal with complaining about New Orleans. For the Superbowl in New Orleans, a friend of mine with the Rams got me a room in the Riverfront Hilton. He told me to sit down as he told me the cost, the room rate was $335 per night for a minimum of 3 or 4 nights (I can't remember which), then he asked me if I still wanted it....hell no.

The Hyatt, Inter-Continental, Le Meridian, Fairmont, etc are all in the $145 range of rooms costs, and they are all 5 star hotels. For Mardi Gras you get similar prices of the rooms, if not much more.

Houston, in my opinion, would be a poor spot for the Bayou Classic, although it might go there for a year with the pending $350 Million Superdome renovation. I just like the close proximity of game, hotel, night club (including the French Quarter), restaurant(s), Casino, etc and the cool thing is that your car can stay parked, in one spot, the entire weekend. Houston is soooooo big that you'll never find that first party, and can then have the ability go to the next one, then on the next one, and so on. I went to a function the night of the Southern v Prairie View game that took me about an hour to get to from my hotel in the Medical Center Complex by Reliant Stadium.

Houston is a great city, as a matter of fact I'm heading over there today, but the essence of the Classic might be lost if its in Houston. The Saints will be playing in 91,000 seat Tiger Stadium for a season (like the Chicago Bears playing this season in the Univ. of Illinois Stadium), so we will have to find a spot for the Classic. So we might get a chance to see how things work in Houston.
 
Baton Rouge/Shreveport wouldn't be a bad idea. But remember this, could either of those cities support the huge crowds? Hotels? Restaurants? Traffic? Cops? Entertainment? Other than Casinos...what exactly does Shreveport have to offer? It was tight on traffic during the GSU/UAPB game. Just imagine a Bayou Classic in Shreveport.

But it would save me a lot of money!!!
 
Originally posted by Jagster
I didnt hear anyone complaining about the Circle City Classic room rates, they had rooms in downtown Indy that started at $165 and went up past $200 per nite. Folks didnt complain about that so whats the deal with complaining about New Orleans. For the Superbowl in New Orleans, a friend of mine with the Rams got me a room in the Riverfront Hilton. He told me to sit down as he told me the cost, the room rate was $335 per night for a minimum of 3 or 4 nights (I can't remember which), then he asked me if I still wanted it....hell no.

The Hyatt, Inter-Continental, Le Meridian, Fairmont, etc are all in the $145 range of rooms costs, and they are all 5 star hotels. For Mardi Gras you get similar prices of the rooms, if not much more.

Houston, in my opinion, would be a poor spot for the Bayou Classic, although it might go there for a year with the pending $350 Million Superdome renovation. I just like the close proximity of game, hotel, night club (including the French Quarter), restaurant(s), Casino, etc and the cool thing is that your car can stay parked, in one spot, the entire weekend. Houston is soooooo big that you'll never find that first party, and can then have the ability go to the next one, then on the next one, and so on. I went to a function the night of the Southern v Prairie View game that took me about an hour to get to from my hotel in the Medical Center Complex by Reliant Stadium.

Houston is a great city, as a matter of fact I'm heading over there today, but the essence of the Classic might be lost if its in Houston. The Saints will be playing in 91,000 seat Tiger Stadium for a season (like the Chicago Bears playing this season in the Univ. of Illinois Stadium), so we will have to find a spot for the Classic. So we might get a chance to see how things work in Houston.

Good Post Jagster. I forgot about the facelift the SuperDome is going to get. So the Saints will play in BR at Tiger Stadium. Don't be shocked if the BC follows suit and try to play in Baton Rouge or it will be in Shreveport. I don't know if Houston will take us for just one year, but who knows. LSU going to make some long paper with the Saints games coming to town. Now the fans can have somewhere to tailgate. Surely some LSU official is going to approach SU and GSU about the BC as well. They would be foolish not too. BTW, what the hell is Tulane going to do about their home games next? Surely they can't use Tiger Stadium. I guess they will have to play where the NO High Schools play their games. I am sure that will suffice. It isn't like Tulane has alot of fans anyway. Look for alot of road games for them next year.
 
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