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SUtrp96, I respect your comments and opinions. I just had to comment on what you said about PB. Maybe Grambling had a better showing than PB when both faced Southern. That doesnt make them the better band though. But you have your opinions. But you need to get a tape of the PB-GSU game, and then you will see who got busted wide open lol. The GSU people on here will tell you. Jackson had a better showing than you guys, when playing PB, but that doesnt make Jackson the better band over Southern.......
SUtrp96
HBCU SCREAMING CHAMP 99'
I feel what you are saying.....I guess I would have to see their showing against other band to make that claim..
But I'll say this, UAPB may have did better than GSU at that game business.... I guess it will take other people that saw all bands to make their desicion....
In my opinion from what I saw UAPB, GSU, and AAMU is running NECK and NECK overall package wise......
GSU has an advantage over AAMU drilling wise
UAPB and GSU drilling is about what and what
UAPB sound while drilling is a better than GSU's
STANDS:
AAMU is the most powerful of the bunch
UAPB and GSU is close, with the edge to GSU from the showing I saw of both
UAPB and AAMU has better arrangements overall than GSU, not by much...
I like AAMU sound in the stands more than UAPB becasue of their power , but I like GSU's sound better than UAPB, because GSU sound is a bit more fuller than UAPB's..
Than you know what to, I may have to put GSU and UAPB pretty much neck and neck after I do review a full tape of them...Because I didn't hear GSU in a 5th, so I don't know how long they can last....
This was just a dayum good year for all bands...
Fa sho bruh, Grambling shocked a lot of people when they came to PB though. They got that mentality to kill, just like PB does. But we got different styles, Grambling probably is more agressive. AAMU band is one of my favorites, if they get their drills and field shows together, they can wreck for real. With what you just said I can see why you had AAMU, PB, and GSU neck and neck. I think when PB steps up in the5thQ's next year, it will be trouble. This is what the Swac needs though, competition. Its getting thick each year. PV is gonna always hold it down in my book. TxSo as well, because if you put all of these bands head to head, it would be hard to make a clear winner. If you asked me, it wasnt no weak bands this year honestly. Valley even brought something to the table, sometimes they crumbled though. Once Alcorn and Valley get that killer instinct they had back in the days, the Swac will be complete.
I havent heard BamaST this year, but I will be at the SCG to listen and observe. I cant wait, because this will be another good one.....
World Famed
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Alright you talk about the song "And I am Telling You" well ask yourself who got house the band are the Lady who Sung the hell out of it. I mean I respect SU and I got Love for everyone I know but I could tell that you all were in trouble when you played Neck followed by Hay. To me that was like something to get your spirits back. But when people from N. O. and Baton Rouge that bleed Blue and Gold told us that we won the BOTB well I am saying what is up.
PsychoJag
We Run The SWAC
Not really because if we wanted to we could have played Crazy In love back at ya'll and let the dolls do the booty hop and that would have housed out.
We knew that Neck and Hay would house out. Please believe that yes ya'll were better this year than ya'll were last year but we still got the "W" ya'll got booed we got booed but overall we got the most house. And Sat ya'll received the fat "L". Don't run a mile from the inch we are giving u. Ya'll got booed waaayyyy more than we did.BTW The band and the singer housed out because we played the he11 outta it and she sung the he11 outta it. On the other hand when ya'll played practice what u preach and big head hundreds the band and the singer received no house.
Jagtone97
SU Band - Crab Fall 97
Man, you can't say that. That's just like bringing in a Major Artist like Juvenile or Lil Flip.
Now GSU, who really got the house for the band, the music the band played or bringing out the artist? Ummmm, I'ma have to go with the artist on this one. Cause those were some Poo-poo arrangements being played behind the artist. :idea:
Now, SU on the other hand, music was rolling (like always), and the artist brought the house down.
frenchie_2000_71483
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GSU vs Su Blow out
Yes, in deed it was a battle but Grambling took house on every round. Gram got booed as usaully when they marched in and on the intro, but when the battle started it was over for Southern they ran out of songs they played there sorry version of "neck" followed by "hay". These songs in a battle "I think not" Grambling was busting them so bad they decied to play around with Southern and play NECK then RAIN ON ME. BUT this year Southern had no answer for songs such as Let's Get It On, I Will Never Leave, The Old School Tribute, Danger, The Outkast Medley and The Beyonce Medley. Even though Southern left while Grambling was playing which showed unsportmans like conduct and was plain out rude to the band and the crowd. Grambling stayed to entertian the crowd as usually with more songs and the Grambling Breakdown.
In my opinion Grambling Took the whole battle there was no competion from Southern. Grambling took House end of story if you think different you must be DEAF and BLIND
Yes, in deed it was a battle but Grambling took house on every round. Gram got booed as usaully when they marched in and on the intro, but when the battle started it was over for Southern they ran out of songs they played there sorry version of "neck" followed by "hay". These songs in a battle "I think not" Grambling was busting them so bad they decied to play around with Southern and play NECK then RAIN ON ME. BUT this year Southern had no answer for songs such as Let's Get It On, I Will Never Leave, The Old School Tribute, Danger, The Outkast Medley and The Beyonce Medley. Even though Southern left while Grambling was playing which showed unsportmans like conduct and was plain out rude to the band and the crowd. Grambling stayed to entertian the crowd as usually with more songs and the Grambling Breakdown.
In my opinion Grambling Took the whole battle there was no competion from Southern. Grambling took House end of story if you think different you must be DEAF and BLIND
Rollin Thunda
We Will Rise Again
Great job GSU.
Mike
Ace Dawg! RQQ!!!!
I sure wish the isht load of SU folks that I was around at the BOTB, my wife (SU Grad) and folks afterwards that I talked to from SU would come on this board and tell yall what they saw! I only saw two people after the BOTB that said that SU won the battle. ZN and JR! Honestly, I would have thought they would've been more open minded about it, but for the first time I saw them not being truthful to themselves.
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I'm not saying SU wasn't good. I'm saying that GSU was just better this year.
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I'm not saying SU wasn't good. I'm saying that GSU was just better this year.
MACKG
a.k.a. NASTYNUPE
I was surrounded by SU fans at the BOTB. But at the end of the night, they were all shaking my hand admitting the "L" You can't win em all. GSU came loaded this year. SU was like a wounded cat. They started playing the same songs they've played for years...Hey...Can You Feel It. They brought out some chick to sing...was she a band member? I guess they ran out of music and jetted. I'm not taking anything from them...they still sound like the same ole SU. But this year...GSU was simply better. Enough Said!!!
ms.sonic96
JSU ON YOUR MIND!
I can honestly agree.
O'Bladerunner
And Down!
Not to discredit your (or, anyone elses) opinion....but, Im starting to think everyone outside of SU can't find a da*n seat, other than around a big group of SU folk "that said SU took an "L".
You spoke to ZN and JR (or, any other Juke member)....they see thru "only trying to get crowd"...which is what Grum goes for.
How can you be a better band....only trying to get crowd?
Now, if crowd appeal is the only thing you look for....then, you just might think Grum won the BOTB's (See: Grum'97...Calling Tyrone). And, that sure as he!! is fine by me.
Until Grum SOUNDS GOOD (which is what a band is supposed to do, right?) consistantly, while getting crowd (less the two scoops of gimmicks)...then, "Yes".....you'll be hard pressed to find a Juke member that will "admit" (
) to an "L".So, I'll ask.....
Did Grum win the BOTB's due to.....
- Arrangement
- Sounding Better than the "U"
- Crowd appeal
remember, that the crowd is the ultimate goal. what is a battle of the bands if there is no crowd so stop ruling out the fans.....2nd if the masses(and the masses that i am speaking of, are bandsmen) took all the musicality, showmenship, sound, presence, and execution into consideration, then why is it not right for bandsmen to judge bandsmen and if the majority of the people responding to this thread are bandsmen and the overall concensus says that gram took the "w" at the botb and su took the "w" for halftime let's agree to agree that that is how we as spectators saw the outcome......don't try to out rule our opinions with with your subliminal badgering just to sway our opinions.......take the "L" for the botb and live with it......Originally posted by O'Bladerunner
Not to discredit your (or, anyone elses) opinion....but, Im starting to think everyone outside of SU can't find a da*n seat, other than around a big group of SU folk "that said SU took an "L".
You spoke to ZN and JR (or, any other Juke member)....they see thru "only trying to get crowd"...which is what Grum goes for.
How can you be a better band....only trying to get crowd?
Now, if crowd appeal is the only thing you look for....then, you just might think Grum won the BOTB's (See: Grum'97...Calling Tyrone). And, that sure as he!! is fine by me.
Until Grum SOUNDS GOOD (which is what a band is supposed to do, right?) consistantly, while getting crowd (less the two scoops of gimmicks)...then, "Yes".....you'll be hard pressed to find a Juke member that will "admit" (
So, I'll ask.....
Did Grum win the BOTB's due to.....
- Arrangement
- Sounding Better than the "U"
- Crowd appeal
JagFan#1
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:lmao: @ Grambling's arrangements! I sat in the lodge in the Superdome straight in front of both bands at the BOTB'S and I could really tell that Southern's sound was more crisp and clean.
This battle was won by Mr. J and the other arrangers for Southern hands down before they even left off the yard.
Did anyone pay attention to that 1st song played by the Jukebox??:eek2:
This battle was won by Mr. J and the other arrangers for Southern hands down before they even left off the yard.
Did anyone pay attention to that 1st song played by the Jukebox??:eek2:
SWAC31
Flagship of the Delta
u kno i wouldnt be me if i aint say isht jared
but um i pretty much agree with some of the things you said but um...drill wise....uapb runs circles around gsu.[especially this year]..gsu drills ok when they do drill
arrangement wise[currently]..behind knighten,jackson at SU and Magruder at JSU.. Hud[ better known as philharmonic]is in the runnings behind those cats...and his arrangements far exceed that of gsu and aamu...aint no close to it
and to say them kats sound fuller?how? but you did hear them in a dome so you can only go off what you hear.....so im not knockin u on that
but in the top 3 this year..i hafto disagree..but i did tell yall gsu has improved...cause u still have bands like pv and pb that really do consists of the overall package besides su and jsu...as far as sound...drill...drive and arrangements.[just listen to the clips posted frm this season]..i admit su and jsu bout a tie in 1st this year...but pv and pb bout a notch under them...overall the thing they have mostly over these 2 bands is hella power...but gsu is in the top 5 no doubt...but u made a good post...im just elaborating..and it was a dayum good year for the SWAC band wise:eek2: muchs props to grambling
O'Bladerunner
And Down!
Subliminal badgering?.....:lol: Now Skip, come on, man.
Im not badgering anyone. If fact, I stated that I can give to two ishts about someone's opinion....cuz, it's theirs.
But, all this "SU admitting "L's" is where the ship full of bandsmen hits the big musical iceberg.
You want SU to admit to something.....then, key in on the things that really count when it comes to band. Sound....execution....being heard....musicality....arrangements....etc (yes...it's that serious). Don't ask anyone from SU to lower their standards...just because someone found a way to "get crowd" without succeeding in all those categories, when the "U" is under the microscope for those categories every time they grab those horns. I just don't see it happening.
Did the bandsmen really? Or, did they base the decision on who got more house? It's either or in the world of music for true musicians. When you're an ol'head judging bands....you're either going as a spectator looking to be entertained....or, you're looking for what's right and what's wrong, while considering the crowd.
Remember: Bands and Band directors are looking for a tight ship FIRST....then, what they can do for a crowd.
See, there's a difference when dealing with SU. When SU brags about "gettng house"...you know that it automatically includes the musicality, showmenship, sound, execution, etc. Not...."I know our arrangements/intonation/power/execution needs work....but, atleast we got house".
Can you honestly say the same for all of those categories for Grum? (rhetorical)
All Im sayin.....is if you, as a bandsmen, give the "W" only considering crowd ....then, you need to drop your drumsticks and mouthpieces in the pitiful bucket, by the door, on your way out.
Sure....you're there to entertain the crowd. But, do you compromise everything that's right about bands for crowd?
Im not discrediting crowd AT ALL. But, Im also not willing to let bandsmen judge soley on the bases of crowd...and, turn around and say "SU can't admit an "L", when you're not holding the opposition to the same light as you do SU.
Why? Because, bandsmen should know better.
frenchie_2000_71483
New Member
Actually the crowd has a big part of the performance. A lot of the people who go to these BOTB are musicians themselves so they do know what they are talking about. SU is so arrogant; of course they are not going to admit a thing. In my opinion, it's not really about who won or lost because we already know that. It's about being sore losers. Don't worry, you may or MAY NOT redeem yourselves next year!!!
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: drop your sticks and mouthpieces in the pitiful bucket, ha ha ha h a that is some funny isht, but true bandsmen judge by what we preach, at least i know i do, not just crowd house i was not even considering the layman fans i was just talking about the bandsmen/spectator/fan. you are right when you said we must look at sound, intonation,power, execution and overall drive and i'm sure most of us do.....su is still the sound cats of the south but this time hey.......much love to the jaguars
ZNSPR8502
Meet, act & depart...
Mike,
As we discussed, I said GSU didn't win. I didn't say SU WAXED GSU. I'm never happy if it ain't a WAXING. But, if you asked me who won, I've got to be honest and not use my high standards for my own be a handicap to them. SU was better. They probably felt the songs they selected was the best option to WAXING THEM. However, I think the songs I've heard them blow after the games through out the year would have got more people on their feet. There were a few other songs that I think would have gotten more fans on their feet than the ones they played. But, it is like a DJ at a club, you go in with a plan, but you have to be ready to switch according to the vibe of the crowd. SU did that. They eventually went to what they KNEW Would Impress and it did.
GSU played a lot of recognizable songs that weren't so recognizable by the crowd until well into the song. So, they didn't get much of a reaction either.
You stated that they did in the area you were sitting. We confirmed we both were in the upper level, but apparantly not close to each other. The people in our area (a lot of GSU) cheered a little, especially on the GSU stables, but they weren't on their feet most of the night either.
All this to say, it wasn't as obvious as some of you are trying to make it. It is an opinion decision. GSU didn't sound good, but apparantly they played more current songs that were hard to figure out.
So, it was too darn close for me, but the JUKEBOX was definitely the better band - Keeping in mind that I strive to please the crowd more and impress the muscians more all in the same performance. It's the SU Jukebox in me.
Peace!!!
LadyLuck13
Chocolate Rain
To SUtrp96
First of all Mr."I'm still claiming the SCREAMIN CHAMP award from 5 years ago"(Aren't you ALUMNI? Let it go....)
It's so funny how if you look at the posts, most of the people are saying that SU got the arse destoyed this year, and like I said, you are getting so excited trying to defend SU when it's clear what the critics are sayin... OBVIOUSLY, the true critics do NOT include BAND ALUMNI, nor BAND Members, you IGIT... Those opinions would always be biased.
If you clearly read, the only opinion (which I'm still entitled to give) I stated was that some SU folks have a hard time admitting that the other team or band did well....Somebody from another school tell me I'm lyin
First of all Mr."I'm still claiming the SCREAMIN CHAMP award from 5 years ago"(Aren't you ALUMNI? Let it go....)
It's so funny how if you look at the posts, most of the people are saying that SU got the arse destoyed this year, and like I said, you are getting so excited trying to defend SU when it's clear what the critics are sayin... OBVIOUSLY, the true critics do NOT include BAND ALUMNI, nor BAND Members, you IGIT...
Those opinions would always be biased. If you clearly read, the only opinion (which I'm still entitled to give) I stated was that some SU folks have a hard time admitting that the other team or band did well....Somebody from another school tell me I'm lyin
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