SU Jag 79
Jaguar ALUM
What the hell are you talking about?
As a conference, NO ONE has been burning up the turnstiles in basketball. I'm being real about it, whether it hurts conference feelings or not.
Any comments or excuses on attendance?
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What the hell are you talking about?
As a conference, NO ONE has been burning up the turnstiles in basketball. I'm being real about it, whether it hurts conference feelings or not.
players
Banned
There's no NASCAR this weekend.
I thought the big deal for TMS was this upcoming w/e.Where are all these RVs coming from and going around here?
Could have sworn a race was comming on. :lecture:
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SU Jag 79
Jaguar ALUM
Maybe I misunderstood your thought, but that begs me to ask this question ....
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
How do you explain J-State having 59,000 in Memorial for the Southern game and only 12,000 the next week for Mississippi Valley or Prairie View?
This isn't anything new. WE go to where the group is or the party is. Do you think the BC would be as big as it is if it was held on Southern and Grambling campus?
Hell, that's not ONLY this conference. LSU gets 93,000 for Alabama and maybe 85 to 90 for Vanderbilt.
People go to these events for entertainment .... whether that is on the field of play, in the stands (band), in the auxillary events (BC or CIAA tourney).
bluedog
"Leader of Kings"
I thought the attendance beef was always about the SCG, hell it's easy to explain why basketball has had low attendance for so long....our entire conference has sucked at it for so long.
Maybe somebody can post all those threads about basketball attendance for me so that I can get up to speed.
Maybe somebody can post all those threads about basketball attendance for me so that I can get up to speed.
CoSign. Please show me the basketball threads discussing this. I too thought it was always about the SCG.
SUjagTILLiDIE
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With basketball and baseball, it's going to be the same case ANYWHERE we go .... if the SWAC doesn't make it an event and not just a collection of games in one central area, it won't matter if it's in DCG's backyard (umm, check that .... it might matter then b/c I would be there), Xhale's backyard (I'd be there too :kissor Get Ready's rent house.
In baseball the attendence is always better in BR.
CEE DOG
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It was also about Basketball. Where are all these folks at? Hold on, I got the threads for yall.....
http://www.tspnsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84504&highlight=Shreveport
http://www.tspnsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85979&highlight=Shreveport
Come out, come out, where ever you are...... Did any of yall who said you will be there made it yet? Maybe yall on the road headed there..........
http://www.tspnsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84504&highlight=Shreveport
http://www.tspnsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85979&highlight=Shreveport
Come out, come out, where ever you are...... Did any of yall who said you will be there made it yet? Maybe yall on the road headed there..........
Tigerpride
THE Logical ONE
For something to be "the place to be" you have to have interests from ALL age groups. That is something we lack. This is more of an alumni event. How do we change that? People go to Classics and the CIAA tournament becasue whether you are 18 or 25 or 35 or 55, there is something/someone for you to do. I just can't see our students/young adults road tripping to Shreveport BUT for it to happen, this tourney and its events need to be pumped up to the younger demographic. Not sure what schools are there but we need invites/flyers sent to schools about events/parties going on especially frat/soror parties. I know that when I was 23ish and even 27ish (im not far from that now but Im just sayin), a road trip was nothing but a word...but I would need to THINK I would be able to have a good time there. I think the element missing is that age group. IF college age people and young adults thought they could go to Shreveport and kick-it with their frats, sorors, and fine sisters and brothers from 9 other schools...they would come...and KEEP coming until they get old. We are the SWAC dammit...fugg the CIAA.
Hell, I'm STILL looking for good road trips. :lol:
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northern tiger
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I haven't given up on teams Mr. Rob, currently it isn't worth the trip. My comments are based on systemic issues rather than the team being sorry. I can deal with a "true" rebuilding period, but toiling because of trying to slap team together with out a long term plan and constantly losing to tnst is a different story.
DallasCowboyGirl
The Olympian
No all of them cancel after the first or second day! SUCK Arse fans! Our conference ain't going to ever be shyt without our support! FOOLS
northern tiger
Active Member
93k down to 85k is not that much of a drop off. I go to games to watch the competition on the field. Not the so called party aspect. It's never been that serious. I was so glad at the JSU/asu game in '94 (Steve McNair's last game which I came from Chicago to see) to see people actually watching the game and not walking around in their football game outfits, I thought I was at a "real college" football game. It was a beautiful thing. Half time is just half time. It serves it purpose and then the third quarter starts. The outcome of the game is my main concern.
mhurd97
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It's true that the attendance numbers could be better and many who care would like for them to be better. However, we need to compare apples to apples- none of our schools have enrollments higher than 10K, so we are small schools. Since we are a conference made up of small schools, therefore, smaller alumni compared to a LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Houston,etc. so our attendance numbers reflect that. If we did a percentage comparison of our attended games based on the aforementioned against these other schools I bet our percentage would be on par with them or better.
I have been following the tournament this year on the outlets available or checking scores as many of you have but would not have taken off work on Wednesday to see another school in the SWAC play. However, my TSU Tigers played on yesterday (women and men) so I worked half a day made the trip and got here right after half-time of our women's game. I took off today as well because both of our teams are still in it, but if they were not here or advanced then I would probably not have made the trip.
Personally, I like the fact that it is at a loaction that I could to a road trip versus having to make flight reservations and not knowing what would happen, so by driving it gives me more options. I think it is also good for us (TSU) and I'm being bias because we were able to bring our band, cheerleaders, dancers, mascot, and students (on fun bus), not to mention our alumni that came and some faculty from the athletic department. I think we had good representation on a Thursday. I expect that we'll have more of our folks here today and tomorrow once we advance to the championship game.
I am able to get some work done from the hotel today, grab a bite to eat, rest and get ready to head to the arena for the 5:30p tipoff.
I'm ecstatic!!!!!!
I have been following the tournament this year on the outlets available or checking scores as many of you have but would not have taken off work on Wednesday to see another school in the SWAC play. However, my TSU Tigers played on yesterday (women and men) so I worked half a day made the trip and got here right after half-time of our women's game. I took off today as well because both of our teams are still in it, but if they were not here or advanced then I would probably not have made the trip.
Personally, I like the fact that it is at a loaction that I could to a road trip versus having to make flight reservations and not knowing what would happen, so by driving it gives me more options. I think it is also good for us (TSU) and I'm being bias because we were able to bring our band, cheerleaders, dancers, mascot, and students (on fun bus), not to mention our alumni that came and some faculty from the athletic department. I think we had good representation on a Thursday. I expect that we'll have more of our folks here today and tomorrow once we advance to the championship game.
I am able to get some work done from the hotel today, grab a bite to eat, rest and get ready to head to the arena for the 5:30p tipoff.
I'm ecstatic!!!!!!
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players
Banned
Well.
I'm clear because I didn't even know Shreveport had an arena.
had to ask if the photo I googled up was the place and that was it.:lol:
Only other thing I saw on those threads was a certain BAMMA finally confessing that he HATES JSU outright. :lol:
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For something to be "the place to be" you have to have interests from ALL age groups. That is something we lack. This is more of an alumni event. How do we change that? People go to Classics and the CIAA tournament becasue whether you are 18 or 25 or 35 or 55, there is something/someone for you to do. I just can't see our students/young adults road tripping to Shreveport BUT for it to happen, this tourney and its events need to be pumped up to the younger demographic. Not sure what schools are there but we need invites/flyers sent to schools about events/parties going on especially frat/soror parties. I know that when I was 23ish and even 27ish (im not far from that now but Im just sayin), a road trip was nothing but a word...but I would need to THINK I would be able to have a good time there. I think the element missing is that age group. IF college age people and young adults thought they could go to Shreveport and kick-it with their frats, sorors, and fine sisters and brothers from 9 other schools...they would come...and KEEP coming until they get old. We are the SWAC dammit...fugg the CIAA.
Hell, I'm STILL looking for good road trips. :lol:
All of this comes down to simple premises. Are you willing to spend your entertainment dollar by going to the SWAC Tournament when there are other options available?
I don't know what the regular season attendance numbers are, but you can't expect those who don't attend regular season games in their own backyard to travel to X city to watch a tournament where there is a good chance your team will be one and done. I think we also have to factor in the quality of the product on the floor when looking into if fans will attend.
I just believe that no matter what ploys to draw interest are in place, people are just not passionate about college basketball in the SWAC the same as college football.
southsuburbs
What I Live By...
I disagree. I think if the games were held in New orleans, with the attraction of the French Quarters...JSU fans (as well as other schools) would travel AND actually attend the games just to talk shyt!!
I'm not trying to get into the debate on moving games/tourneys to New Orleans...all I'm saying is if there's an attraction in the town, folks will come.
That's what irritates me about B'ham and the SCG. Flights are expensive as hell to get there, and there's nothing to do in b'ham outside of the game and other fesitivites planned (that are borring too,ie band battle, concert). Plus the liquor is too daymn high in B'ham. :lol:
J-State2DaPoint
"Eye Of The Tiger"
:lol: @ Ceedog's statement about him hating JSU!
That was too funny!
That was too funny!
northern tiger
Active Member
GURL you betta hursh yo mouf!!!! :lol:
players
Banned
I think we are missing the 8 ton killer whale in the room in this whole discussion about attendance and moving the tournament around the south Carmen San Diego style. The basketball is not compelling. That is why everything has to be an event for people to go. The Big Ten Tournament is in Indianapolis. I've been to Indianapolis. There is nothing to do there. The ACC Tournament is in Greensboro. What is the entertainment there? The Pac-10 Tournament is in Los Angeles. Great place. But nobody shows up to the games.
Right now the Pac-10 officials are concerned about lack of attendance and lack of media coverage.
The better the basketball. The more interested people will be maybe.
bluedog
"Leader of Kings"
OK I'm not going through every post to find maybe...MAYBE two or three that actually has anything to say about attendance, but the fact you posted a RECENT thread about the game MOVING tells me there is no threads that people complain about attendance in basketball. Like I said, everybody knows why attendance in basketball has been so low for so long....we suck.
As for people cheering the fact that they moved it, it has always been the fans position (except for the bamas) that it made no sense to have ANY tournament @ one venue for so freaking long unless the attendance demand that you do.
This just seems to be another weak attempt to excuse the home state schools for not fully participating in the SCG while making claim to be the MECCA of the SWAC.
O'Bladerunner
And Down!
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...and, there lies the rub.
Good lawd. Where's the tourney...Cowboy Stadium?!
Without knowing the legistics before the move...this is no surprise. This was bound to happen moving an event to S'Port...:retard:
There was so much criticism of the attendance in B'Ham that I had to find an old Sports View magazine article about the tournament before it came to B'Ham. That article recommended the termination of the tournament because of low attendance. I don't specifically remember where the previous tournament had been held (I think it was Baton Rouge or somewhere on the Mississippi Gulf Coast) but the article roasted the SWAC for even putting it on.
A lot of the criticism was made without any empirical evidence to substantiate it. Posters wanted tthe tournament held somewhere else....anywhere except B'Ham. Now this goes to show that B'Ham drew as well as anywhere else.
The SWAC basketball tourney is what it seems to be:it has low attendance because there is only a small percentage of the population interested in it.
The only reason these tournaments are held is to make money off them. Basketball is the last thing on the minds of the suits who oversee these postseason events.
That, in a nutshell, is why there was a valid argument for allowing it to remain in B'Ham. The low attendance meant that very little money was made from ticket sales; the bulk of the "profits" had to come from sponsorships and contributions from the hosting city. The City of Birmingham generously supported the tournament. Now, in order to justify the move, the SWAC has to get the same or more contributions from the new host city because tickets are just as slow, even though the arena seem to be much better than the one B'ham provided.
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