America's Most Dangerous Enemy..........


SUtrp96 said:
Right!

the only thing we have to keep the trust of the people is GOLD!!

That's why we shouldn't be giving OR selling our gold away.....

When ever you start a new currency "PAPER MONEY" "In God we trust"..

You are trusting the amount of money in circulation equals the amount of GOLD....

Because if the currency system was ever destroyed we would be living like you saw in "BOOK OF ELI"...

If you noticed no one had GOLD in that movie.... maybe because it was all taken.... So people were buying water with ..."KFC hand wipes"..."Blankets"..

Items.... Of course if you have gold you could buy more things and get people to do more for you.....


That's going a bit off... but WHEN we get to the point where we have to do away with the American Dollar....

Those with GOLD will be the wealthiest..... And those who are buy houses with a 30 year note will be homeless.... Because them houses belongs to your lender who is borrowing from the Federal Reserve...
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I actually haven't seen Book of Eli, need to check it out. And I guess this chapter i'm about to read on the monetary system is about to throw me for a loop.
 
XHALE9802 said:
Ok I get it, printing money is not the same as creating a new currency(in proper proportions)....new currency reduces the money supply where as continuing to print more of our current currency(that already has debt/interest attached) increases it.

Today, my Prof gave me feedback on a paper about revaluing currency or creating a new one, interesting.

I have a monetary and fiscal policy scenario paper due this week, where we are acting as senior economic advisor to the president, he is asking our recommendations on how to proceed out of a severe recession. I'm gonna have to consider many of these options against whats in the books. :tup:
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Correct! The colonies are a good example to follow. They had a booming economy because they printed debt/interest free currency, and issued it based on the trade demands of the local economy. There was no surplus in the issuing of currency amongst the colonies.

Lincoln's example is also a good example. Lincoln proved that our nation has the ability to print our own currency out of thin air.......that's what the "International Bankers" do habitually. For example, every home/car loan given is created out of thin air, and the bankers make you and I pay interest on something they never owned.:shame:
 



ROYAL BLUE said:
Correct! The colonies are a good example to follow. They had a booming economy because they printed debt/interest free currency, and issued it based on the trade demands of the local economy. There was no surplus in the issuing of currency amongst the colonies.

Lincoln's example is also a good example. Lincoln proved that our nation has the ability to print our own currency out of thin air.......that's what the "International Bankers" do habitually. For example, every home/car loan given is created out of thin air, and the bankers make you and I pay interest on something they never owned.:shame:
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The black people in Tulsa Oklahoma had their own currency method...

That was the wealthy a black population ever been in the history of this world... They had their own EVERYTHING..

Grocery, Schools, libraries, airports, hospitals, everything... And had a whole lot of millionaires... and folks that were worth more than MOST millionaires are worth today...

But again.... the DEMOCRATIC and REPUBLICAN party aka KKK dstroyed it by buring their town down and killing many blacks in the process...

They saw where the people of Tulsa didn't need the federal government {federal reserve}
 
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SUtrp96 said:
Rush is bad for the people on many levels.... he don't do shyt but seperate the people in this country...

Is Alan Keyes talking about doing away with the Federal Reserve?
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Yes, Alan Keyes wants to get rid of the IRS, and you can hear it for yourself at the 3:11 mark. The following is a comment from the youtube video below.........
quillpen61 (4 months ago)
Thank god, another Ron Paul type rep that speaks his mind.
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Alan Keyes on Taxation and the Federal Reserve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qeVkQHZiMk

They did not support Ron Paul....They made Ron Paul look like a joke... Rush ain't support Ron Paul neither...He only invited him to his show AFTER the elction was over to show people a REPUBLICAN was right about what was going to happen to the economy....

Rush only brought him on there out of spite of Obama...
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Oh, ok.....now I see why you're truly upset with Limbaugh. Let me just say the bible encourages us to separate ourselves from wicked people. Division is good if people want to bring you down. This is why parents are quick to tell their children to get the he// out of the house if they act a d@mn fool. The parent does not want that type of BS around them because it leaves a bad smell on the family. If I was sent to war, I would rather go to war with 1,000 brave soldiers instead of 10,000 cowards. It's better to separate the men from the boys........and that's what Rush is doing.
 
SUtrp96 said:
The black people in Tulsa Oklahoma had their own currency method...

That was the wealthy a black population ever been in the history of this world... They had their own EVERYTHING..

Grocery, Schools, libraries, airports, hospitals, everything... And had a whole lot of millionaires... and folks that were worth more than MOST millionaires are worth today...

But again.... the DEMOCRATIC and REPUBLICAN party aka KKK dstroyed it by buring their town down and killing many blacks in the process...

They saw where the people of Tulsa didn't need the federal government {federal reserve}
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.....are you telling me there were no government handouts, and folks were living good off the sweat of their own labor? How did this happen, and can we get back to them days of able bodies pulling their on load?:D
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
.....are you telling me there were no government handouts, and folks were living good off the sweat of their own labor? How did this happen, and can we get back to them days of able bodies pulling their on load?:D
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a lot of people dont know our history... lacks were once a proud people... And no they did not look for hand outs.... Most blacks back then voted Republican because they strongly believed in the free market... and it was working very well for our blacks..

Dr.King knew of this... he voted Republican until JFK made a deal with him...


Honestly I don't care what party you call ....this country need to get back to the basics and look out for the future generations..

I know what you were trying get at.. no they weren't democrats or liberal minded back then..
 
SUtrp96 said:
a lot of people dont know our history... l
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.....and you can start with the first amendment. The IRS has illegally silenced the churches with illegal 501c3 BS. The "International Bankers" knew that preachers could influence their flock on how to vote politically, so they came up with a BS law to rip the churches of freedom of speech.

501c3 Myths

The IRS has acknowledged for decades that it is completely unnecessary for any church to apply for a tax-exempt status. According to IRS Publication 557, as well as IRS Code § 508, churches and church ministries are “exempt automatically.” Application for an exempt status is not only superfluous, but to do so subordinates that church to the IRS. Churches in America have always been nontaxable anyway. It simply makes no sense for a church to go to the IRS and seek permission to be exempted from a tax the government can’t impose in the first place.

The church in America is protected from the government by the First Amendment:

“Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

It would be absurd to suppose that you could have free exercise of religion if you had to pay for it (taxes). If Congress can make NO law respecting the church, it can make NO law to tax the church.

The IRS lacks the jurisdiction necessary to tax the churches in America. The IRS has no more jurisdiction over the churches in America than it does over the churches in Canada. It would be as absurd (and tyrannical) for the IRS to tax the churches in America, as it would be for the IRS to tax churches in Canada. They don't have jurisdiction.

http://hushmoney.org/501c3-myths.htm
 
........................It simply makes no sense for a church to go to the IRS and seek permission to be exempted from a tax the government can’t impose in the first place.

RB

This is where you are incorrect, it is necessary, just as it’s necessary for churches to file certain document with the Secretary of State for non-profit status.

Why, because for years churches have been “claiming non-profitâ€￾ but when you look at their books they had millions of dollars in the bank and more. So by filing the IRS papers you are saying that the church is non profit and this also protects the churches from lawsuits from individuals that may contact the IRS. It also allows the IRS to come in and audit the churches financial records, especially when you have individuals on payroll.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/33817


The IRS has illegally silenced the churches with illegal 501c3

Please explain, there is no law stating that a preacher cannot encourage a person to vote. However, he cannot tell them [by way of the Pulpit] what candidate to vote for.
 
Dr H.. said:
........................It simply makes no sense for a church to go to the IRS and seek permission to be exempted from a tax the government can’t impose in the first place.

RB

This is where you are incorrect, it is necessary, just as it’s necessary for churches to file certain document with the Secretary of State for non-profit status.

Why, because for years churches have been “claiming non-profitâ€￾ but when you look at their books they had millions of dollars in the bank and more. So by filing the IRS papers you are saying that the church is non profit and this also protects the churches from lawsuits from individuals that may contact the IRS. It also allows the IRS to come in and audit the churches financial records, especially when you have individuals on payroll.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/33817


The IRS has illegally silenced the churches with illegal 501c3

Please explain, there is no law stating that a preacher cannot encourage a person to vote. However, he cannot tell them [by way of the Pulpit] what candidate to vote for.
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.....of course there should be millions/billions present in the church bank account........God is moving hearts to give, and He provides for the church/people of the community. In fact, it's none of the governments business as to how much is in the church bank account......“Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.â€￾ There is no law in the constitution that says the church must report its income to the government. Show me the law in the constitution and I will accept it. The constitution does say the government can't tell the church how to operate.......that means don't worry what's in the church bank account. http://hushmoney.org/501c3-myths.htm
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
..........International Bankers.

BEN FRANKLIN - THE TWO BANKING SYSTEMS From the autobiography of Ben Franklin, as reported by Gertrude Coogan in "Money Creators": ...the inability of the colonists to get the power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the PRIME reason for the Revolutionary War.
Ben Franklin answering a question about the booming economy of the young colonies: "That is simple. In the colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportions to the demands of trade and industry." (Colonial Scrip had no debt or interest attached.


When the 1816 charter expired in 1836, Andrew Jackson vetoed its renewal. See Jackson's Veto Message to Congress It was then that he made two famous statements: "The Bank is trying to kill me - but I will kill it!" Later he said "If the American people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system - there would be a revolution before morning..."

In his First Inaugural Address, Lincoln made a point to discuss the role of Capital and Labor. Significant national issues were, at that time, in the first official speech, immediately after a Presidential Election.
Lincoln spoke on finances and government: "In his First Annual Message to Congress, December 3, 1861, Abraham Lincoln stated: "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed, if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. Capital has its rights, which are as worthy of protection as any other rights."
President Lincoln needed money to finance the Civil War, and the international bankers offered him loans at 24-36% interest. Lincoln balked at their demands because he didn't want to plunge the nation into such a huge debt. Lincoln approached Congress about passing a law to authorize the printing of U.S. Treasury Notes. Lincoln said "We gave the people of this Republic the greatest blessing they ever had - their own paper money to pay their debts..." Lincoln printed over 400 million "Greenbacks" (debt and interest-free) and paid the soldiers, U.S. government employees, and bought war supplies. The international bankers didn't like it and wanted Lincoln to borrow the money from them, so that the American people would owe tremendous interest on the loan. Lincoln's solution made this seem ridiculous. Shortly after Lincoln's death, the government revoked the Greenback law which ended Lincoln's debt-free, interest-free money. A new national banking act was enacted and all currency became interest-bearing, debt instruments, again.

In the year 1865, a statement to Congress, President Abraham Lincoln stated,
'I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me, and the financial institution in the rear. Of the two, the one in my rear is my greatest foe'.

Later that year President Lincoln was assassinated.:shame:

http://www.kamron.com/economics/people_who_opposed_the_FRB.htm
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I think that because of Lincolns death the international bank it was able to 'stick' this country and put it into debt because you know that the country needed the paperback money which forced the country to look into other venues to which I am sure it put the country in dispositions and where they probably wasn't able to print enough money to pay their debts. I think the international banks probably "got away with one" when he died because of the influence he had to support him!
 
Gsu95 said:
I think that because of Lincolns death the international bank it was able to 'stick' this country and put it into debt because you know that the country needed the paperback money which forced the country to look into other venues to which I am sure it put the country in dispositions and where they probably wasn't able to print enough money to pay their debts. I think the international banks probably "got away with one" when he died because of the influence he had to support him!
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Yes, the "International Bankers" paid politicians off to "illegally" disregard the constitution. Why else would they disregard the clear instructions from the constitution....forbidding America to borrow from foreign nations?
 
SUtrp96 is going too deep for most to comprehend. You are on fire bruh.

Royalblue:

You would be surprised to really find out whom some of these people you put on a pedestal TRULY worship.
 



FAMU CLIFF said:
SUtrp96 is going too deep for most to comprehend. You are on fire bruh.

Royalblue:

You would be surprised to really find out whom some of these people you put on a pedestal TRULY worship.
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I tried to go there with... hoping he would research that him self..
That's why I scratch my head when he give these Repubs a pass like they actually hold the same religious values he holds...

It's all a front...I'm glad it's some one else on here that don't sit around waiting for the CFR....err news stations to feed you what they want you to know to shape your mind....

This country is falling apart and we have blacks and whites worrying about keeping up with this worldly shyt and trying to impress folk with shyt that is about to be worthless...

Like I said...the movie "Book of Eli" is a possibilty for this world... strong possibilty
 
I believe ole Joe Stack had/has been reading this thread. I read his manifesto/suicide letter and I thought about this thread. He touched on some of the same points that yall are discussing in this thread. This some good siht fellows......Carry on.
 
FAMU CLIFF said:
SUtrp96 is going too deep for most to comprehend. You are on fire bruh.

Royalblue:

You would be surprised to really find out whom some of these people you put on a pedestal TRULY worship.
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Who did I put on a pedestal? I don't have the ability to read minds, however I do have the ability to discern when a man is doing wrong. God told us to test the fruits of men, and the fruit of a politician is his votes in office. If I hear or verify that a politician has boldly voted in support of abortion(murder), homosexuality, same sex marriages, legalizing drugs, and etc., then I in no way will support his/her bad fruit. I don't care what a politician may feel in his/her heart, all I care about are the results of the vote; and it better be a vote in which I approve. Again, I don't put people on pedestals.
 
SUtrp96 said:
I tried to go there with... hoping he would research that him self..
That's why I scratch my head when he give these Repubs a pass like they actually hold the same religious values he holds...
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Is this better?

Alan Keyes speech in Hazleton, PA, on April 15, 2008. He discusses in this segment putting God above party, not voting for the lesser of two evils, to sacrifice for that which you believe in, etc.

Alan Keyes announces his break with the GOP, part 1 of 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byl6P9f5ckA&feature=related



Alan Keyes announces his break with the GOP, part 2 of 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUCdkYh05jY&feature=related



Alan Keyes announces his break with the GOP, part 3 of 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oECajOi_M4I&feature=related



Alan Keyes announces his break with the GOP, part 4 of 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPzzondbfgA&feature=related



Alan Keyes announces his break with the GOP, part 5 of 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYQ8wwPs9zQ&feature=related
 
South Carolina Lawmaker Seeks to Ban Federal Currency

South Carolina Rep. Mike Pitts has introduced legislation that would mandate that gold and silver coins replace federal currency as legal tender in his state.

As the Palmetto Scoop first reported, Pitts, a Republican, introduced legislation this month banning "the unconstitutional substitution of Federal Reserve Notes for silver and gold coin" in South Carolina.

In an interview, Pitts told Hotsheet that he believes that "if the federal government continues to spend money at the rate it's spending money, and if it continues to print money at the rate it's printing money, our economic system is going to collapse." http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/17/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6217403.shtml
 
The scary, I have noticed that whenever a person, politician or not refer to God in one of their speeches. RB will automatically think they are a “Christianâ€￾ Apparently, he has not been living long enough or smart enough to realize individuals uses word God, like drinking a cup of coffee, it has become routine. So when people want to get elected to a position, the first they do is start visiting churches and insert God into political speeches.

Then all of a sudden they use moral issues as a platform. However, they could care less about the morality of individuals.
 
FAMU CLIFF said:
http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/2009/10/fall-of-republic-alex-jones-latest.html
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Man I never saw this clip a day in my life... I been had the understanding from the way things work..
The Democrats and Republicans are not enemies... not the ones in Washington..I been telling folk them people probably sitting behind them doors chopping it up drinking coffee laughing at us...
They put of a show for the media....

People are so slow brah... If things are SO obviously wrong and it's going on up on capital hill... Why the first back lash you here is from the people? Shouldn't it be from the opposing party members in DC?

They don't oppose shyt until the people fill out a FN survey....

Our people need to wake up.... for real...

Thanks for posting this brah... man you need to be in here omore often...

I often think it's no hope when I see all these confused folk fighting amongst theirselves over these parties when EVERYONE in here wants what's right..

We've been conditioned to believe we can't have it all right...So we accept... "the lesser of 2 evils" motto.....
 
Dr H.. said:
The scary, I have noticed that whenever a person, politician or not refer to God in one of their speeches. RB will automatically think they are a “Christianâ€￾ Apparently, he has not been living long enough or smart enough to realize individuals uses word God, like drinking a cup of coffee, it has become routine. So when people want to get elected to a position, the first they do is start visiting churches and insert God into political speeches.

Then all of a sudden they use moral issues as a platform. However, they could care less about the morality of individuals.
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DH, you have very weak comprehension skills. Read and comprehend the following I posted previously on this thread.


I don't have the ability to read minds, however I do have the ability to discern when a man is doing wrong. God told us to test the fruits of men, and the fruit of a politician is his votes in office. If I hear or verify that a politician has boldly voted in support of abortion(murder), homosexuality, same sex marriages, legalizing drugs, and etc., then I in no way will support his/her bad fruit. I don't care what a politician may feel in his/her heart, all I care about are the results of the vote; and it better be a vote in which I approve. Again, I don't put people on pedestals.
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ROYAL BLUE said:
DH, you have very weak comprehension skills. Read and comprehend the following I posted previously on this thread.
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RB....

Your only problem I see is you still "trust" the process...

You really "trust" there are good men in the republican party..... I don't knock that as long as you know it is "very" few and they have NO power right now... but if you can say that about the few Repubs... you have to know that there are a few good DEMs left.....and they have no power..

The truth the GOOD folk in each party can't face is... they serve the people far better be disassociating themselves from each party...

Rush Lim. is worse than them politicians and we all will be fools to think Rush don't have a part in this...

He has all this money and this strong conservative belief and yet he can't see the Repub party is just as bad as the Dems and there for he should turn his listeners against both parties...

He has a hand in it too...
 
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