Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
Damn good point! :tup:
Damn good point! :tup:
Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the wall
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BAMASTATESPIRIT
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JROCK
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
I don't mind anyone moving up. I just don't like the SWAC bashing. If you have a problem with the SWAC just go. But stop all the bashing. If the truth be told, I'd like to see 7 conference members anyway.
I don't mind anyone moving up. I just don't like the SWAC bashing. If you have a problem with the SWAC just go. But stop all the bashing. If the truth be told, I'd like to see 7 conference members anyway.
In_The_662
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
That's what a lot of us have been saying but it's basically the same two types of bashing:
1) White is right. Anything HBCU related is trash and anything PWC related is superior (when a lot of those much larger PWC's wish they were in the SWAC's position now)
2) The same people who bash the SWAC saying how bad the conference is but at this point they know no other conference would even sniff them but their inflated sense of ego makes them think this is the mid-1990's when it was their best time to move up. They also complain about not going to the playoffs but it has shown time and time again at this point you are losing money if you go and you really don't get much better just by going (i.e. MEAC)
That's what a lot of us have been saying but it's basically the same two types of bashing:
1) White is right. Anything HBCU related is trash and anything PWC related is superior (when a lot of those much larger PWC's wish they were in the SWAC's position now)
2) The same people who bash the SWAC saying how bad the conference is but at this point they know no other conference would even sniff them but their inflated sense of ego makes them think this is the mid-1990's when it was their best time to move up. They also complain about not going to the playoffs but it has shown time and time again at this point you are losing money if you go and you really don't get much better just by going (i.e. MEAC)
Blacknbengal
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
I don't think they're going anywhere. Too much giving out. They will have to travel great distances in the Sun Belt. And to be totally honest, you guys haven't even felt the financial sting of having built this stadium yet. I don't believe you all have your ducks lined up yet.
I don't think they're going anywhere. Too much giving out. They will have to travel great distances in the Sun Belt. And to be totally honest, you guys haven't even felt the financial sting of having built this stadium yet. I don't believe you all have your ducks lined up yet.
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SUJagFan
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
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I don't know what's worse. Considering any criticism or dissatisfaction with the SWAC to be "white is right" and "SWAC bashing" or seriously expecting people to "stop the bashing" and ignore or accept the dysfunction of this conference and its member schools.
Too many of us throw out that "white is right" accusation as a means to shame people and intimidate them into settling for less like everybody else. It's the ultimate crabs-in-a-barrell tactic.
I agree that anyone who wants to leave should just leave. But, the ones who are here now and the ones who decide to stay shouldn't be afraid to speak up because someone will accuse them of thinking "white is right".
Actually, I think the opposite is true. Any person or organization should be continually improving. That requires someone to be AWARE of the results they are getting and continually look for ways to be better. But, you know what's most important? Being aware and knowing are not enough. Somebody must have the testicular fortitude to actually DEMAND and see to it that we get better. If that is being "white" to you and hurts your feelings, then so be it but that is the only way individuals and organizations improve.
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I don't know what's worse. Considering any criticism or dissatisfaction with the SWAC to be "white is right" and "SWAC bashing" or seriously expecting people to "stop the bashing" and ignore or accept the dysfunction of this conference and its member schools.
Too many of us throw out that "white is right" accusation as a means to shame people and intimidate them into settling for less like everybody else. It's the ultimate crabs-in-a-barrell tactic.
I agree that anyone who wants to leave should just leave. But, the ones who are here now and the ones who decide to stay shouldn't be afraid to speak up because someone will accuse them of thinking "white is right".
Actually, I think the opposite is true. Any person or organization should be continually improving. That requires someone to be AWARE of the results they are getting and continually look for ways to be better. But, you know what's most important? Being aware and knowing are not enough. Somebody must have the testicular fortitude to actually DEMAND and see to it that we get better. If that is being "white" to you and hurts your feelings, then so be it but that is the only way individuals and organizations improve.
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JROCK
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
I am not sure where the racial element comes in. This is a championship game league. If you don't like it have your president change it or leave. The constant whimpering and not doing anything about it needs to stop. Running down the SWAC constantly on a message board doesn't better conditions. Anyone playing the color card pro or con as it relates to this conference speaks volumes about their mindset. If anyone wants to exemplify testicular fortitude, go talk to your president and stop hiding behind a key board.
I am not sure where the racial element comes in. This is a championship game league. If you don't like it have your president change it or leave. The constant whimpering and not doing anything about it needs to stop. Running down the SWAC constantly on a message board doesn't better conditions. Anyone playing the color card pro or con as it relates to this conference speaks volumes about their mindset. If anyone wants to exemplify testicular fortitude, go talk to your president and stop hiding behind a key board.
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Panther88
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
tbf, I'm not sure about ULM. But ask <b>The</b> University of North Texas how it has helped. I voluntarily participated, helped facilitate, approached and wrote briefs to my corp to donate a size of rev here and there :emlaugh: - as well as friends of the neighboring communities, and I have seen the growth first-hand, eye-to-eye, not only of their athletic structure/venue (football stadium namely) but also their academic offerings and student populous. In '92 when I first became involved, the enrollment was ~ 16-17K, if memory serves correct. Now, it's a system lol w/ 2 other campii besides Denton lol and there are ~36K total student souls as of fall 2012. I won't get into their academic offeratory explosion because it would take damned near all day to post all that junk so go look it for yourself. Ol' Al(fred) indeed had a vision of FBS'dom that was real and he helped steer the course to make it happen and certainly brought in the right guys to make the full transition successful.
Is that attributed to jumping FBS? Who knows. But you certainly cannot make a lie out of that type growth through the recent years, now can we? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ditto for texas state and even ut-san antonio. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. If Bama St and JSU are anticipating or planning to make the jump means growth for them, I'm all for them leaving. As QUICKLY as they can. :tup:
What I'm trying to wrap my brain around is the mentality of some. You see someone driving a Ferrarri and you're in a tired 4cyl-banger pinto yet you the pinto driver attempt to demean the superior automobile that would kick your ass up and down any 10+yd stretch in ANYTHING. What the fvck kind of backwards logic is this? It's not corporate and it for DAMNED sure isn't american because most of us are naturally competitive in this capitalistic society. :|
tbf, I'm not sure about ULM. But ask <b>The</b> University of North Texas how it has helped. I voluntarily participated, helped facilitate, approached and wrote briefs to my corp to donate a size of rev here and there :emlaugh: - as well as friends of the neighboring communities, and I have seen the growth first-hand, eye-to-eye, not only of their athletic structure/venue (football stadium namely) but also their academic offerings and student populous. In '92 when I first became involved, the enrollment was ~ 16-17K, if memory serves correct. Now, it's a system lol w/ 2 other campii besides Denton lol and there are ~36K total student souls as of fall 2012. I won't get into their academic offeratory explosion because it would take damned near all day to post all that junk so go look it for yourself. Ol' Al(fred) indeed had a vision of FBS'dom that was real and he helped steer the course to make it happen and certainly brought in the right guys to make the full transition successful.
Is that attributed to jumping FBS? Who knows. But you certainly cannot make a lie out of that type growth through the recent years, now can we? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ditto for texas state and even ut-san antonio. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. Growth. If Bama St and JSU are anticipating or planning to make the jump means growth for them, I'm all for them leaving. As QUICKLY as they can. :tup:
What I'm trying to wrap my brain around is the mentality of some. You see someone driving a Ferrarri and you're in a tired 4cyl-banger pinto yet you the pinto driver attempt to demean the superior automobile that would kick your ass up and down any 10+yd stretch in ANYTHING. What the fvck kind of backwards logic is this? It's not corporate and it for DAMNED sure isn't american because most of us are naturally competitive in this capitalistic society. :|
JAG89
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
I like how a certain school in the SWAC probably begged the SWAC to allow them membership into the conference 55 years ago, but now they think the SWAC is holding them back, although they might have one of the worse out-of-conference records in the SWAC. IMO, the SWAC definitely didn't do itself any favors when it allowed them membership, because I'm sure there were other HBCU programs that were a lot better. I hope the SWAC has learned its lesson over the 55 years, which is "Never grant low lifers membership into the conference again, because all they can do is bring the conference down."
I like how a certain school in the SWAC probably begged the SWAC to allow them membership into the conference 55 years ago, but now they think the SWAC is holding them back, although they might have one of the worse out-of-conference records in the SWAC. IMO, the SWAC definitely didn't do itself any favors when it allowed them membership, because I'm sure there were other HBCU programs that were a lot better. I hope the SWAC has learned its lesson over the 55 years, which is "Never grant low lifers membership into the conference again, because all they can do is bring the conference down."
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BAMASTATESPIRIT
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
Not even hatred I smell anymore. Its fear. Fear that MyASU will actually get it done. Its OK dude we already knew it would be lonely at the top.
Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
i think that conversation about this HBCU FBS super conference should be seriously had. we are being left behind VERY quickly. forget about the fcs playoffs its time to move up. we had a chance in the 90's and we missed it however the window of opportunity is slightly open now
i think that conversation about this HBCU FBS super conference should be seriously had. we are being left behind VERY quickly. forget about the fcs playoffs its time to move up. we had a chance in the 90's and we missed it however the window of opportunity is slightly open now
The Founder
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Their facilities are better than La. Tech!!!!
Do your thing Bama State!! Please leave this conference. Hell you all do that I would become a fan no lie!!!! Probably go to some of your games in the area.
See we (SWAC) hate on each other so much that we can't see the forest for the trees. There are at least 3 teams that should have BEEN left the SWAC but the leadership is so flawed that we hold each other back.
Blacknbengal
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
Hatred???? Dude, Stacey is working on uncovering you all's underhanded paper trail concerning you all's stadium. You all don't have your financial paperwork in order to even have a thought about moving up. First, get the crooks out of you all's administration and off your board before thinking about moving up.
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Hatred???? Dude, Stacey is working on uncovering you all's underhanded paper trail concerning you all's stadium. You all don't have your financial paperwork in order to even have a thought about moving up. First, get the crooks out of you all's administration and off your board before thinking about moving up.
#truth
enswaclopedia
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
There is no doubt that you and Jay Rob are running neck and neck as the #1 Hate Kings on this board, I will admit that you are dead on point with this post.
Blacknbengal
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
Hate King???? Dude, I don't hate you all. Seriously, I never really knew you all existed until 10-15 years ago. I truly wish yall well if you all can pull this off, but I do know you all have too many crooks in your fold to even think about making a move like this.
Hate King???? Dude, I don't hate you all. Seriously, I never really knew you all existed until 10-15 years ago. I truly wish yall well if you all can pull this off, but I do know you all have too many crooks in your fold to even think about making a move like this.
the band fan
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
if anyone just compare total university budgets you would see which schools could move up if needed and which schools shouldn't.....it all depends on the presidents
ASU doesn't even have a president or AD so that move ain't happening anytime soon...
Again, is playing FBS worth it when you have regional PWCs at your house on a weekly basis who barely care about themselves unless the big state school pays them a once in a lifetime visit? They do alot of number fudging out there
if anyone just compare total university budgets you would see which schools could move up if needed and which schools shouldn't.....it all depends on the presidents
ASU doesn't even have a president or AD so that move ain't happening anytime soon...
Again, is playing FBS worth it when you have regional PWCs at your house on a weekly basis who barely care about themselves unless the big state school pays them a once in a lifetime visit? They do alot of number fudging out there
JayRob
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
If telling the truth is akin to being a "hate king", then guilty I am.
If telling the truth is akin to being a "hate king", then guilty I am.
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
Ok now give me one benefit you have over ULM right now. Would you be competitive with them? Would you beat them out for recruits? Do you make more money? And don't you have to play those same beatdown games? You seem to be delusional. One as FBS you get more money for those OU games than you do as FCS, two, is the option a bowl game vs the swac championship game even worth mentioning? Didn't ULL get nearly 50K to the New Orleans Bowl last year? What about the SCG? Come on son. Not to mention a million more in revenue, at the least. And the Sunbelt has a travel stipend for teams that have to travel west so that money doesn't come out of the teams pocket anyway.
Ok now give me one benefit you have over ULM right now. Would you be competitive with them? Would you beat them out for recruits? Do you make more money? And don't you have to play those same beatdown games? You seem to be delusional. One as FBS you get more money for those OU games than you do as FCS, two, is the option a bowl game vs the swac championship game even worth mentioning? Didn't ULL get nearly 50K to the New Orleans Bowl last year? What about the SCG? Come on son. Not to mention a million more in revenue, at the least. And the Sunbelt has a travel stipend for teams that have to travel west so that money doesn't come out of the teams pocket anyway.
Blankman2k5
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
Just State Funding: From 2002-2012
Alabama A & M University $31,848,863 $32,117,465 $33,351,274 $37,561,169 $33,351,274 $49,736,935 $49,344,672 $44,104,670 $38,980,219 $37,795,379 $34,708,484
Alabama State University $30,439,107 $29,901,357 $30,555,611 $34,562,593 $30,555,611 $49,266,559 $58,881,599 $50,222,208 $42,021,961 $42,611,872 $63,940,861
Just State Funding: From 2002-2012
Alabama A & M University $31,848,863 $32,117,465 $33,351,274 $37,561,169 $33,351,274 $49,736,935 $49,344,672 $44,104,670 $38,980,219 $37,795,379 $34,708,484
Alabama State University $30,439,107 $29,901,357 $30,555,611 $34,562,593 $30,555,611 $49,266,559 $58,881,599 $50,222,208 $42,021,961 $42,611,872 $63,940,861
SUJagFan
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
Interesting.
Why the shift in funding? Can anybody explain that?
Interesting.
Why the shift in funding? Can anybody explain that?
CEE DOG
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
AAMU does not have any one in the state fighting for us any more.
AAMU does not have any one in the state fighting for us any more.
the band fan
Baseball Fan
Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
ULM has an $8 million dollar budget, pays their AD $110K WITH FBS money
TSU has a bigger budget with higher salaries and their FCS so where is the beatdown money going to?
ULM has an $8 million dollar budget, pays their AD $110K WITH FBS money
TSU has a bigger budget with higher salaries and their FCS so where is the beatdown money going to?
BAMASTATESPIRIT
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
Please Stacy is WAY in over his head. One thing is certain , and that's Dr. Harris and our BOT are both professional hands shakers and back scratchers. By the time Stacy tries to unearth whatever he thinks he knows, his rep and credibility will have been dragged all thru the sippi red clay. Now, on the other hand, if you and your posse spent a fraction of time worrying about jsu, and not obsessing over MyASU, then maybe....just maybe you all could get your own. My two cents.
Please Stacy is WAY in over his head. One thing is certain , and that's Dr. Harris and our BOT are both professional hands shakers and back scratchers. By the time Stacy tries to unearth whatever he thinks he knows, his rep and credibility will have been dragged all thru the sippi red clay. Now, on the other hand, if you and your posse spent a fraction of time worrying about jsu, and not obsessing over MyASU, then maybe....just maybe you all could get your own. My two cents.
JSU/99
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Re: Alabama State Looking To Leave The SWAC? I think so, the handwriting was on the
At the top of what?
At the top of what?
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